Re: Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-06-02 Thread Jean Pierre


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Re: Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-06-02 Thread Jean Pierre


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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-06-02 Thread jds1307
The NVIDIA proprietary driver blacklists the nouveau driver by creating a file 
in /etc/modprobe.d
IIRC the file name is nouveau.conf, but I could be wrong there.

If you want to revert to using nouveau you will have  to:

(i) remove that file
(ii) run sudo depmod -a
(iii) rebuild initramfs by running
  sudo update-intramfs -u -k all
(iv) reboot

Hope this helps


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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-06-01 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 07:26:08 -0700
Joe Riel  wrote:

> My /etc/default/grub file contained
> 
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet vga=775"
> 
> should I remove the vga=775 when adding 
> GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024
> GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep

Yes! I've been trying different settings and rebooting and this seems
to work as expected.

The only thing I have noticed is that my jessie/sid entry in grub.cfg
doesn't get the "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep" setting for some reason.


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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-06-01 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 07:26:08 -0700
Joe Riel  wrote:

> Alan Ianson  writes:
> 
> > On Fri, 31 May 2013 12:59:49 -0700
> > Joe Riel  wrote:
> >
> >> Alan Ianson  writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:13:52 -0700
> >> > Joe Riel  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> After upgrading to Wheezy, I attempted to install an nvidia
> >> >> driver. It didn't work (X didn't come up).  I managed to revert
> >> >> to using the nouveau driver, by removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf,
> >> >> which mostly works. However, I'm having an issue rendering some
> >> >> 3D stuff that used to work before the upgrade (I'm pretty sure
> >> >> I was using the nouveau driver with Squeeze).  Do I need to
> >> >> reinstall/reconfigure the nouveau driver?  What is the proper
> >> >> way to do so?
> >> >
> >> > Did you use nvidia-xconfig to create your xorg.conf? The debian
> >> > packaged nvidia driver works well for me.
> >> 
> >> When I first upgraded to Wheezy, I believe that is what I did (used
> >> nvidia-xconfig to create xorg.conf) and was unable to start X.
> >> This time, after installing an nvidia driver using
> >> 
> >> sudo aptitude -s install nvidia-kernel-dkms install
> >> linux-headers-amd64
> >> 
> >> I manually created /etc/xorg.conf.d using the directions at
> >> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers.
> >> 
> >> All went well.  After a reboot, X started, the 3D stuff is working,
> >> scrolling in chrome is a lot faster.  Fonts have changed slightly,
> >> it seems.  I wouldn't say for the better but I'll adapt soon
> >> enough.
> >
> > My desktop looks like it always has. Maybe you can adjust the
> > anti-aliasing or hinting of fonts on your desktop.
> >
> >> Only thing I've noticed that is obviously worse is that the virtual
> >> terminal font is now big and ugly.  I recall that the same occured
> >> when I previously tried an nvidia driver in Squeeze.
> >
> > When using the nvidia driver I have always used vga=794 on my kernel
> > command line and I get good response time. I have tried the new
> > "gfxmode=" way of doing it but I find I have slow a terminal then.
> > I do need to experiment more with that though.
> 
> My /etc/default/grub file contained
> 
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet vga=775"
> 
> should I remove the vga=775 when adding 
> GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024
> GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep

I would try vga=794 first. The difference is that 775 should give you a
1280x1024 x 256 color depth while 794 will give you 1280x1024 x 65k
colors.

The GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024 is the way to go now but when I use it I get
slow screen writes whereas vga=794 seems to work well here. I don't
know why that is I'll need to figure it out soon I think.

I got these vga modes from..

http://pierre.baudu.in/other/grub.vga.modes.html

> I used dbeinfo when inside grub, after a reboot, to query the
> available resolutions.  The highest I have, apparently, is
> 1280x1024.  Is there a way to change the setting when inside grub, so
> that it immediately takes place (at least while in grub)?  With the
> large font, the output of commands invariably scrolls off the
> screen.  I tried
> 
> set pager=1
> 
> that didn't do anything.

Not that I know of, just keep trying till it works the way you want it
to.

> > I also run "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" and choose the "vga"
> > font which is what the kernel used to use by default IINM. I'm not
> > sure why the default font was changed but i think it supports more
> > languages now so the vga font may not work for everyone.
> 
> How can I query what console font is in effect?

If you run dkpg-reconfigure console-setup and go through and don't make
any changes you can see what font and size you have now.

There may be a command to query what your console setup is, but I don't
know.


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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-06-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 01, 2013 at 07:26:08AM -0700, Joe Riel wrote:
> 
> My /etc/default/grub file contained
> 
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet vga=775"
> 
> should I remove the vga=775 when adding 
> GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024
> GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep

I'd say yes, to avoid conflicts, but you could *actually* try the
different ways and see?

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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-06-01 Thread Joe Riel
Alan Ianson  writes:

> On Fri, 31 May 2013 12:59:49 -0700
> Joe Riel  wrote:
>
>> Alan Ianson  writes:
>> 
>> > On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:13:52 -0700
>> > Joe Riel  wrote:
>> >
>> >> After upgrading to Wheezy, I attempted to install an nvidia driver.
>> >> It didn't work (X didn't come up).  I managed to revert to using
>> >> the nouveau driver, by removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which mostly
>> >> works. However, I'm having an issue rendering some 3D stuff that
>> >> used to work before the upgrade (I'm pretty sure I was using the
>> >> nouveau driver with Squeeze).  Do I need to reinstall/reconfigure
>> >> the nouveau driver?  What is the proper way to do so?
>> >
>> > Did you use nvidia-xconfig to create your xorg.conf? The debian
>> > packaged nvidia driver works well for me.
>> 
>> When I first upgraded to Wheezy, I believe that is what I did (used
>> nvidia-xconfig to create xorg.conf) and was unable to start X.  This
>> time, after installing an nvidia driver using
>> 
>> sudo aptitude -s install nvidia-kernel-dkms install
>> linux-headers-amd64
>> 
>> I manually created /etc/xorg.conf.d using the directions at
>> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers.
>> 
>> All went well.  After a reboot, X started, the 3D stuff is working,
>> scrolling in chrome is a lot faster.  Fonts have changed slightly, it
>> seems.  I wouldn't say for the better but I'll adapt soon enough.
>
> My desktop looks like it always has. Maybe you can adjust the
> anti-aliasing or hinting of fonts on your desktop.
>
>> Only thing I've noticed that is obviously worse is that the virtual
>> terminal font is now big and ugly.  I recall that the same occured
>> when I previously tried an nvidia driver in Squeeze.
>
> When using the nvidia driver I have always used vga=794 on my kernel
> command line and I get good response time. I have tried the new
> "gfxmode=" way of doing it but I find I have slow a terminal then. I do
> need to experiment more with that though.

My /etc/default/grub file contained

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet vga=775"

should I remove the vga=775 when adding 
GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep

I used dbeinfo when inside grub, after a reboot, to query the available
resolutions.  The highest I have, apparently, is 1280x1024.  Is there a
way to change the setting when inside grub, so that it immediately takes
place (at least while in grub)?  With the large font, the output of
commands invariably scrolls off the screen.  I tried

set pager=1

that didn't do anything.

> I also run "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" and choose the "vga" font
> which is what the kernel used to use by default IINM. I'm not sure why
> the default font was changed but i think it supports more languages now
> so the vga font may not work for everyone.

How can I query what console font is in effect?

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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-05-31 Thread Alan Ianson
On Fri, 31 May 2013 12:59:49 -0700
Joe Riel  wrote:

> Alan Ianson  writes:
> 
> > On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:13:52 -0700
> > Joe Riel  wrote:
> >
> >> After upgrading to Wheezy, I attempted to install an nvidia driver.
> >> It didn't work (X didn't come up).  I managed to revert to using
> >> the nouveau driver, by removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which mostly
> >> works. However, I'm having an issue rendering some 3D stuff that
> >> used to work before the upgrade (I'm pretty sure I was using the
> >> nouveau driver with Squeeze).  Do I need to reinstall/reconfigure
> >> the nouveau driver?  What is the proper way to do so?
> >
> > Did you use nvidia-xconfig to create your xorg.conf? The debian
> > packaged nvidia driver works well for me.
> 
> When I first upgraded to Wheezy, I believe that is what I did (used
> nvidia-xconfig to create xorg.conf) and was unable to start X.  This
> time, after installing an nvidia driver using
> 
> sudo aptitude -s install nvidia-kernel-dkms install
> linux-headers-amd64
> 
> I manually created /etc/xorg.conf.d using the directions at
> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers.
> 
> All went well.  After a reboot, X started, the 3D stuff is working,
> scrolling in chrome is a lot faster.  Fonts have changed slightly, it
> seems.  I wouldn't say for the better but I'll adapt soon enough.

My desktop looks like it always has. Maybe you can adjust the
anti-aliasing or hinting of fonts on your desktop.

> Only thing I've noticed that is obviously worse is that the virtual
> terminal font is now big and ugly.  I recall that the same occured
> when I previously tried an nvidia driver in Squeeze.

When using the nvidia driver I have always used vga=794 on my kernel
command line and I get good response time. I have tried the new
"gfxmode=" way of doing it but I find I have slow a terminal then. I do
need to experiment more with that though.

I also run "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" and choose the "vga" font
which is what the kernel used to use by default IINM. I'm not sure why
the default font was changed but i think it supports more languages now
so the vga font may not work for everyone.


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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-05-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 31 mai 13, 12:59:49, Joe Riel wrote:
> 
> Only thing I've noticed that is obviously worse is that the virtual
> terminal font is now big and ugly.  I recall that the same occured when
> I previously tried an nvidia driver in Squeeze.

Put something like this in /etc/default/grub and run 'update-grub':

GRUB_GFXMODE=1680x1050
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep

Kind regards,
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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-05-31 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 31 May 2013 12:49:36 -0700
Joe Riel  wrote:

Hello Joe,

>I tried that, didn't help.  Well, I tried dpkg-reconfigure; that
>didn't help.

Try installing nvidia-installer-cleanup, which ensures any remnants of
the packages installed from the nVidia website are removed, and
therefore, cannot conflict with the Debian packages.

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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-05-31 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-05-31 21:49 +0200, Joe Riel wrote:

> Sven Joachim  writes:
>
>> Reinstall the xserver-xorg-core and libgl1-mesa-glx packages, those
>> contain files which are overwritten by the Nvidia installer.
>
> I tried that, didn't help.  Well, I tried dpkg-reconfigure; that
> didn't help.

Of course it does not.  Did you try to reinstall the _packages_, like
this:

# apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg-core libgl1-mesa-glx

If you did that and still have problems after restarting X, please send
your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-05-31 Thread Joe Riel
Alan Ianson  writes:

> On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:13:52 -0700
> Joe Riel  wrote:
>
>> After upgrading to Wheezy, I attempted to install an nvidia driver.
>> It didn't work (X didn't come up).  I managed to revert to using the
>> nouveau driver, by removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which mostly works.
>> However, I'm having an issue rendering some 3D stuff that used to work
>> before the upgrade (I'm pretty sure I was using the nouveau driver
>> with Squeeze).  Do I need to reinstall/reconfigure the nouveau
>> driver?  What is the proper way to do so?
>
> Did you use nvidia-xconfig to create your xorg.conf? The debian
> packaged nvidia driver works well for me.

When I first upgraded to Wheezy, I believe that is what I did (used
nvidia-xconfig to create xorg.conf) and was unable to start X.  This
time, after installing an nvidia driver using

sudo aptitude -s install nvidia-kernel-dkms install linux-headers-amd64

I manually created /etc/xorg.conf.d using the directions at
http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers.

All went well.  After a reboot, X started, the 3D stuff is working,
scrolling in chrome is a lot faster.  Fonts have changed slightly, it
seems.  I wouldn't say for the better but I'll adapt soon enough.

Only thing I've noticed that is obviously worse is that the virtual
terminal font is now big and ugly.  I recall that the same occured when
I previously tried an nvidia driver in Squeeze.

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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-05-31 Thread Joe Riel
Sven Joachim  writes:

> On 2013-05-31 20:13 +0200, Joe Riel wrote:
>
>> After upgrading to Wheezy, I attempted to install an nvidia driver.  It
>> didn't work (X didn't come up).
>
> Using the Nvidia installer is not recommended, better use the packages
> in non-free.
>
>> I managed to revert to using the
>> nouveau driver, by removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which mostly works.
>> However, I'm having an issue rendering some 3D stuff that used to work
>> before the upgrade (I'm pretty sure I was using the nouveau driver with
>> Squeeze).
>
> The nouveau driver in Squeeze does not provide 3D acceleration, so that
> kind of stuff only works to a limited amount (by using the swrast
> software renderer).
>
>> Do I need to reinstall/reconfigure the nouveau driver?  What
>> is the proper way to do so?
>
> Reinstall the xserver-xorg-core and libgl1-mesa-glx packages, those
> contain files which are overwritten by the Nvidia installer.

I tried that, didn't help.  Well, I tried dpkg-reconfigure; that
didn't help.

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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-05-31 Thread Alan Ianson
On Fri, 31 May 2013 11:13:52 -0700
Joe Riel  wrote:

> After upgrading to Wheezy, I attempted to install an nvidia driver.
> It didn't work (X didn't come up).  I managed to revert to using the
> nouveau driver, by removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which mostly works.
> However, I'm having an issue rendering some 3D stuff that used to work
> before the upgrade (I'm pretty sure I was using the nouveau driver
> with Squeeze).  Do I need to reinstall/reconfigure the nouveau
> driver?  What is the proper way to do so?

Did you use nvidia-xconfig to create your xorg.conf? The debian
packaged nvidia driver works well for me.


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Re: Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-05-31 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-05-31 20:13 +0200, Joe Riel wrote:

> After upgrading to Wheezy, I attempted to install an nvidia driver.  It
> didn't work (X didn't come up).

Using the Nvidia installer is not recommended, better use the packages
in non-free.

> I managed to revert to using the
> nouveau driver, by removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which mostly works.
> However, I'm having an issue rendering some 3D stuff that used to work
> before the upgrade (I'm pretty sure I was using the nouveau driver with
> Squeeze).

The nouveau driver in Squeeze does not provide 3D acceleration, so that
kind of stuff only works to a limited amount (by using the swrast
software renderer).

> Do I need to reinstall/reconfigure the nouveau driver?  What
> is the proper way to do so?

Reinstall the xserver-xorg-core and libgl1-mesa-glx packages, those
contain files which are overwritten by the Nvidia installer.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Reinstall nouveau driver

2013-05-31 Thread Joe Riel
After upgrading to Wheezy, I attempted to install an nvidia driver.  It
didn't work (X didn't come up).  I managed to revert to using the
nouveau driver, by removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which mostly works.
However, I'm having an issue rendering some 3D stuff that used to work
before the upgrade (I'm pretty sure I was using the nouveau driver with
Squeeze).  Do I need to reinstall/reconfigure the nouveau driver?  What
is the proper way to do so?

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