Removing redundant kernels

2006-11-03 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
Following updates I find I have several redundant kernels and 
corresponding entries in GRUB. Is there a preferred method of removing 
these, once I have established stability with later versions, or is my 
first thought of 'rm'ing the relevant files and editing menu.lst good 
enough?


Peter HB


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Re: Removing redundant kernels

2006-11-03 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello Peter.

Peter Hillier-Brook, 03.11.2006 18:24:
> Following updates I find I have several redundant kernels and
> corresponding entries in GRUB. Is there a preferred method of removing
> these, once I have established stability with later versions, or is my
> first thought of 'rm'ing the relevant files and editing menu.lst good
> enough?

It depends on the way you installed them. If you install them via Debian’s
packaging-system, then you can remove them the same way of course. Just remove
the kernel package which you don’t need any longer.


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Re: Removing redundant kernels

2006-11-03 Thread Nate Duehr

Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
Following updates I find I have several redundant kernels and 
corresponding entries in GRUB. Is there a preferred method of removing 
these, once I have established stability with later versions, or is my 
first thought of 'rm'ing the relevant files and editing menu.lst good 
enough?


Peter HB


Using the package management tools works fine.  99% of the time they'll 
also handle changing your grub configuration, etc... with no problems at 
all.  The kernel packagers do a great job.


Nate


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Re: Removing redundant kernels

2006-11-03 Thread Clive Menzies
On (03/11/06 17:24), Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
> Following updates I find I have several redundant kernels and 
> corresponding entries in GRUB. Is there a preferred method of removing 
> these, once I have established stability with later versions, or is my 
> first thought of 'rm'ing the relevant files and editing menu.lst good 
> enough?

You'd be well advised to use the package management system to remove the
kernels.  Personally, I use aptitude.  Having checked which is your
running kernel, go into aptitude, and mark for removal those you want
rid of.  If you mark the with '_' both the package and the configuration
files are purged.

Regards

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Re: Removing redundant kernels

2006-11-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Clive Menzies wrote:

> You'd be well advised to use the package management system to remove the
> kernels.  Personally, I use aptitude.  Having checked which is your
> running kernel, go into aptitude, and mark for removal those you want
> rid of.  If you mark the with '_' both the package and the configuration
> files are purged.
> 

I did this on my server using aptitude and it didn't work. I '_' purged
two kernels that had been install with aptitude but it left the actual
kernels and initrds and configs in /boot. I had to rm them manually.

hunh. I better look into that more as I know that's not proper behavior.

A



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Re: Removing redundant kernels

2006-11-03 Thread Clive Menzies
On (03/11/06 10:06), Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > You'd be well advised to use the package management system to remove the
> > kernels.  Personally, I use aptitude.  Having checked which is your
> > running kernel, go into aptitude, and mark for removal those you want
> > rid of.  If you mark the with '_' both the package and the configuration
> > files are purged.
> > 
> 
> I did this on my server using aptitude and it didn't work. I '_' purged
> two kernels that had been install with aptitude but it left the actual
> kernels and initrds and configs in /boot. I had to rm them manually.
> 
> hunh. I better look into that more as I know that's not proper behavior.

That's not something I've ever experienced.  You didn't install these
kernels manually using 'dpkg -i' by any chance?

Regards

Clive

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Re: Removing redundant kernels

2006-11-03 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook

Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
Following updates I find I have several redundant kernels and 
corresponding entries in GRUB. Is there a preferred method of removing 
these, once I have established stability with later versions, or is my 
first thought of 'rm'ing the relevant files and editing menu.lst good 
enough?


Thanks to all for the helpful responses. It's an experimental system and 
I installed the kernels 'accidentally' via Synaptic Reload/Mark all 
Updates/Apply, so I had no direct involvement in choosing specific 
kernel packages. No doubt I'll find them in the Synaptic listing somewhere.


If I might pose a supplementary question, can anyone suggest why the 
default kernel on my AMD Athlon 3200+ is a '-486' version whereas on a 
Pentium III it's a '-686' version: this is directly from system 
installation. My understanding of the hardware is that the AMD processor 
is fully compatible with the Pentium IV and therefore a '-686' kernel 
would seem appropriate.


At the moment this question is purely academic, but any daylight would 
be helpful.


Many thanks.

Peter HB


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Re: Removing redundant kernels

2006-11-03 Thread michael
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:24:23 +, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote
> Following updates I find I have several redundant kernels and 
> corresponding entries in GRUB. Is there a preferred method of 
> removing these, once I have established stability with later 
> versions, or is my first thought of 'rm'ing the relevant files and 
> editing menu.lst good enough?

I have a similar problem:

I have an etch box with custom compiled kernels from kernel-package.
I've installed a bunch with dpkg -i and used apt to remove them.
But dpkg still shows them in the the list of packages.
For example:

host:~# dpkg --get-selections |grep linux-image
linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7 purge
linux-image-2.6.17  purge
linux-image-2.6.17-2-486purge
linux-image-2.6.17-2-686install
linux-image-2.6.17-2-k7 purge
linux-image-2.6.17etalon-k7 purge

Is there a way to remove the packages marked "purge"?

Thanks
Mike


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Re: Removing redundant kernels

2006-11-03 Thread Clive Menzies
On (03/11/06 13:12), michael wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:24:23 +, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote
> > Following updates I find I have several redundant kernels and 
> > corresponding entries in GRUB. Is there a preferred method of 
> > removing these, once I have established stability with later 
> > versions, or is my first thought of 'rm'ing the relevant files and 
> > editing menu.lst good enough?
> 
> I have a similar problem:
> 
> I have an etch box with custom compiled kernels from kernel-package.
> I've installed a bunch with dpkg -i and used apt to remove them.
> But dpkg still shows them in the the list of packages.
> For example:
> 
> host:~# dpkg --get-selections |grep linux-image
> linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7 purge
> linux-image-2.6.17  purge
> linux-image-2.6.17-2-486purge
> linux-image-2.6.17-2-686install
> linux-image-2.6.17-2-k7 purge
> linux-image-2.6.17etalon-k7 purge
> 
> Is there a way to remove the packages marked "purge"?

Caveat: do not purge the kernel you're running that said:

$ uname -a   //will show you the kernel you're running

$ sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6.17-2-686

when finished reboot,

$ uname -a   //will show you the kernel you're running

$ sudo aptitude purge linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7 linux-image-2.6.17
linux-image-2.6.17-2-486 linux-image-2.6.17-2-k7
linux-image-2.6.17etalon-k7

$ sudo aptitude clean  //to clean the package cache

apt(itiude) will sort the menu.lst

Regards

Clive

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Re: Removing redundant kernels

2006-11-03 Thread RParr




michael wrote:

  On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:24:23 +, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote
  
  
Following updates I find I have several redundant kernels and 
corresponding entries in GRUB. Is there a preferred method of 
removing these, once I have established stability with later 
versions, or is my first thought of 'rm'ing the relevant files and 
editing menu.lst good enough?

  
  
I have a similar problem:

I have an etch box with custom compiled kernels from kernel-package.
I've installed a bunch with dpkg -i and used apt to remove them.
But dpkg still shows them in the the list of packages.
For example:

host:~# dpkg --get-selections |grep linux-image
linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7 purge
linux-image-2.6.17  purge
linux-image-2.6.17-2-486purge
linux-image-2.6.17-2-686install
linux-image-2.6.17-2-k7 purge
linux-image-2.6.17etalon-k7 purge

Is there a way to remove the packages marked "purge"?

Thanks
Mike


  


I had a similar problem.  I was using synaptic and could not "purge" or
"remove complete" a similar set of kernels.  I also had this problem
back with the 2.6.14 kernel.

I followed the advice given in the posting below and was able to purge
these kernels.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2006/01/msg00143.html

I had to change to /var and do a find -name "*2.6.16*" to find the
directory containing the postrm script mentioned in the above link but
once I found it and commented out the offending line I could remove the
kernels.

R.Parr, RHCE, Temporal Arts





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Re: Removing redundant kernels

2006-11-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 06:40:09PM +, Clive Menzies wrote:
> On (03/11/06 10:06), Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > 
> > I did this on my server using aptitude and it didn't work. I '_' purged
> > two kernels that had been install with aptitude but it left the actual
> > kernels and initrds and configs in /boot. I had to rm them manually.
> > 
> > hunh. I better look into that more as I know that's not proper behavior.
> 
> That's not something I've ever experienced.  You didn't install these
> kernels manually using 'dpkg -i' by any chance?

nope, but I realise I probably installed some of them with apt-get
before I switched over to aptitude. Still though a purge should wipe
them out. frankly its no biggie.

A


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Re: Removing redundant kernels

2006-11-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 06:40:09PM +, Clive Menzies wrote:
> On (03/11/06 10:06), Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > You'd be well advised to use the package management system to remove the
> > > kernels.  Personally, I use aptitude.  Having checked which is your
> > > running kernel, go into aptitude, and mark for removal those you want
> > > rid of.  If you mark the with '_' both the package and the configuration
> > > files are purged.
> > > 
> > 
> > I did this on my server using aptitude and it didn't work. I '_' purged
> > two kernels that had been install with aptitude but it left the actual
> > kernels and initrds and configs in /boot. I had to rm them manually.
> > 
> > hunh. I better look into that more as I know that's not proper behavior.
> 
> That's not something I've ever experienced.  You didn't install these
> kernels manually using 'dpkg -i' by any chance?

Would that matter? Aptitude, synaptic, apt-get ... eventually call dpkg
anyway. IOW I think its dpkg that knows about the config files.

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kernel for AMD Ahtlon (was: Removing redundant kernels)

2006-11-08 Thread Dominique Dumont
Peter Hillier-Brook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If I might pose a supplementary question, can anyone suggest why the
> default kernel on my AMD Athlon 3200+ is a '-486' version whereas on a
> Pentium III it's a '-686' version: this is directly from system
> installation. My understanding of the hardware is that the AMD
> processor is fully compatible with the Pentium IV and therefore a
> '-686' kernel would seem appropriate.

You should use the '-k7' version. 

So you should install the linux-image-2.6.18-1-k7 package (if you're
running sid)

HTH

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need, not what they want." Kurt Bittner


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