Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
>> lynx > > Much less capable than links2. > I see that I'm late to the party! I should have read the whole thread and seen what was suggested before replying. I personally have never tried links2, but I will try it soon. Thanks, Ron. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
On 02/16/2009 04:01 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2009/2/13 Marc Shapiro : Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of dependencies? lynx Much less capable than links2. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Supporting World Peace Through Nuclear Pacification -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
2009/2/13 Marc Shapiro : > Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of > dependencies? > lynx -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 07:25:50PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: >> Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of >> dependencies? >> >> I had been using dillo for things like reading html documentation and >> other light-weight tasks, but then I upgraded to Lenny. Dillo is not >> available in Lenny. It is still in Etch and in Sid, but not Lenny. I bet the sid dillo package would work fine for you. links2 does a decent job rendering HTML as text, which is good enough for documentation and other light-weight tasks. - Chris B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 07:25:50PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of > dependencies? > > I had been using dillo for things like reading html documentation and > other light-weight tasks, but then I upgraded to Lenny. Dillo is not > available in Lenny. It is still in Etch and in Sid, but not Lenny. I > do NOT use KDE, or GNOME and so am not interested in browsers like > Konqueror, which would require many KDE packages to be installed. I > spent a lot of time eliminating all traces of KDE from my machine, since > artsd kept messing with my audio, so I have no desire to bring it all > back in. ELinks? -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
> I've been proposed Midori. [...] > It passes acid3 test. Thanks for both links! I'm running unstable, just installed/updated a few browsers to play and was surprised with the results. - dillo: 0/100 (purged anyway); - iceweasel 3.0.5: 70/100 (3.1 Beta 2 gets 93/100 according to Wikipedia[1]); - kazehakase 0.5.4: 71/100 (as much as Firefox 3.0.6); - opera 9.63: 85/100 (10.0 Alpha 1 gets 100/100); - midori 0.1.2: 100/100 How come Iceweasel is so behind in unstable? [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3#Layout_engines Acid3 test: http://acid3.acidtests.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
Cousin Stanley writes: >>> $ apt-cache policy dillo >>> dillo: >>> Installed: 0.8.6-3 >>> Candidate: 0.8.6-3 >>> Version table: >>> *** 0.8.6-3 0 >>> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > >> Which indicates that dillo is *not* in Lenny. > > I don't recall doing anything special to install dillo > from any other source, but my lack of recall may also > be indicative of personal wetware memory problems :-) > > It's possible that this particular installation of Lenny > actually started out as Etch that already had Dillo installed > and then later Etch was upgraded to Lenny Dillo was in Lenny, but was pulled due to what some considered a serious security flaw. As I understand it, once Lenny was frozen, the bug was found and deemed too serious to fix before the release, so the package was pulled instead: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=510348 Tyler -- What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite. --Bertrand Russell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
>> $ apt-cache policy dillo >> dillo: >> Installed: 0.8.6-3 >> Candidate: 0.8.6-3 >> Version table: >> *** 0.8.6-3 0 >> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > Which indicates that dillo is *not* in Lenny. I don't recall doing anything special to install dillo from any other source, but my lack of recall may also be indicative of personal wetware memory problems :-) It's possible that this particular installation of Lenny actually started out as Etch that already had Dillo installed and then later Etch was upgraded to Lenny -- Stanley C. Kitching Human Being Phoenix, Arizona -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > From: Nuno Magalhães > Subject: Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser > To: "debian-user" > Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 3:53 PM > > I've been proposed Midori. > I'll give it a try, thanks. I tried kazehakase and it > does nice with > unicode. These are off-the-shelf approaches, maybe if i > fiddled with > defoma or something dillo would do it. I have a wipeoutXL As far as I understood Dillo is bearing utf8 in its +Dillo2+ version; the one of unstable is 0.8.x (far from being enough). And it doesn't use css, etc. Very interesting, but afaiac not enough for me (even konqueror doesn't display the page I gave previously correctly but in kde4.x) Midori is as beautiful as Firefox (maybe more beautiful (the rendering)). But I repeat, a little nervous at seg_fault. (the stuf inside is webkit: the continuation of khtml by A, nevertheless free) > font > somewhere but OO.org doesn't seem to have it. > > Nuno Magalhães > LU#484677 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
On 02/13/2009 08:53 AM, Cousin Stanley wrote: Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of dependencies? I had been using dillo for things like reading html documentation and other light-weight tasks, but then I upgraded to Lenny. Dillo is not available in Lenny. It is still in Etch and in Sid, but not Lenny. s...@em1 07:48 AM ~ $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main s...@em1 07:48 AM ~ $ apt-cache policy dillo dillo: Installed: 0.8.6-3 Candidate: 0.8.6-3 Version table: *** 0.8.6-3 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Which indicates that dillo is *not* in Lenny. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Supporting World Peace Through Nuclear Pacification -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
> I've been proposed Midori. I'll give it a try, thanks. I tried kazehakase and it does nice with unicode. These are off-the-shelf approaches, maybe if i fiddled with defoma or something dillo would do it. I have a wipeoutXL font somewhere but OO.org doesn't seem to have it. Nuno Magalhães LU#484677 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > From: Nuno Magalhães > Subject: Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 3:21 PM > > Or you can install Dillo [...] > > Ewww, my local site looks horrid on dillo... No unicode, > just a bunch > of squares, and no css either... I'd assume changing to > a unicode font > would fix it (didn't), but why doesn't it apply the > css? > Two days ago I was looking for a replacement web-browser. I've been proposed Midori. I follow lenny, but I installed it from sid: not too many packages to install, maybe only one. It is fast, It is very smart with utf8/fonts (this page http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/TWiki/SpecialCharacters is perfect) It passes acid3 test. One negative point: it crashes every time in a certain situation I asked help to test it yesterday. (I dare putting the object of the post in case someone would like to look: "request to try something with midori") InkBottle > Guess i'm OT-ing here... sorry. > > Nuno Magalhães > LU#484677 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
> Or you can install Dillo [...] Ewww, my local site looks horrid on dillo... No unicode, just a bunch of squares, and no css either... I'd assume changing to a unicode font would fix it (didn't), but why doesn't it apply the css? Guess i'm OT-ing here... sorry. Nuno Magalhães LU#484677 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
> Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list > of dependencies? > > I had been using dillo for things like reading html documentation and > other light-weight tasks, but then I upgraded to Lenny. Dillo is not > available in Lenny. It is still in Etch and in Sid, but not Lenny. > s...@em1 07:48 AM ~ $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main s...@em1 07:48 AM ~ $ apt-cache policy dillo dillo: Installed: 0.8.6-3 Candidate: 0.8.6-3 Version table: *** 0.8.6-3 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status -- Stanley C. Kitching Human Being Phoenix, Arizona -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 01:05:58AM -0800, Angus Auld wrote: > > > --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > From: Ron Johnson > > Subject: Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 7:30 AM > > On 02/12/2009 11:46 PM, Angus Auld wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > > > http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_i386.deb > > > > > > > > http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_amd64.deb > > > > > > > Or, since you don't *really* know what andi.de1.cc is > > or who runs it, get the deb-src from either Etch or Sid and > > build it yourself on Lenny. > > > > -- Ron Johnson, Jr. > > Jefferson LA USA > > > The links I provided are taken from the dillo.org website. I think they can > be assumed to be from a reliable source. > > I use dillo from this source. > > Regards. > Or you can install Dillo from Sid by running a mixed system. http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=15612 Best regards José Santos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Ron Johnson wrote: > From: Ron Johnson > Subject: Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 7:30 AM > On 02/12/2009 11:46 PM, Angus Auld wrote: > [snip] > > > > > http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_i386.deb > > > > > http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_amd64.deb > > > > Or, since you don't *really* know what andi.de1.cc is > or who runs it, get the deb-src from either Etch or Sid and > build it yourself on Lenny. > > -- Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > The links I provided are taken from the dillo.org website. I think they can be assumed to be from a reliable source. I use dillo from this source. Regards. -- Angus "All churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Muslim, appear to me no other than human inventions, setup to terrify and enslave mankind - and to monopolize power and profit." -- Thomas Paine (1737-1809) ###Laptop powered by Debian Linux### ##Reg. Linux User #278931## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
On 02/12/2009 11:46 PM, Angus Auld wrote: [snip] http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_i386.deb http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_amd64.deb Or, since you don't *really* know what andi.de1.cc is or who runs it, get the deb-src from either Etch or Sid and build it yourself on Lenny. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Supporting World Peace Through Nuclear Pacification -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
Angus Auld wrote: http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_i386.deb http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_amd64.deb Thanks! -- Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Marc Shapiro wrote: > From: Marc Shapiro > Subject: Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 4:58 AM > L Glidewell wrote: > > On Thursday 12 February 2009 19:25:50 Marc Shapiro > wrote: > >> Is there a light-weight browser that does not have > a huge list of > >> dependencies? > >> -- > >> Marc Shapiro > >> mshapiro...@yahoo.com > > > > Kazehakase: > > http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/kazehakase > > > > It is capable of using either Webkit or Gecko as the > rendering engine, but only the Gecko version has been built > for Lenny. > > Obviously, it's heavier (and far more functional) > than Dillo. For the tasks you mention, it might be better to > use something like links2. Or build Dillo. > > I'll give it a try. It is certainly heavier than dillo > -- 20 new packages and about 10MB to download. It loads > pages quickly off the web, though, so it ought to be good > and fast for local html documentation. > > -- Marc Shapiro > mshapiro...@yahoo.com > http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_i386.deb http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-1lenny_amd64.deb -- Angus "All churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Muslim, appear to me no other than human inventions, setup to terrify and enslave mankind - and to monopolize power and profit." -- Thomas Paine (1737-1809) ###Laptop powered by Debian Linux### ##Reg. Linux User #278931## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
L Glidewell wrote: On Thursday 12 February 2009 19:25:50 Marc Shapiro wrote: Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of dependencies? -- Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com Kazehakase: http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/kazehakase It is capable of using either Webkit or Gecko as the rendering engine, but only the Gecko version has been built for Lenny. Obviously, it's heavier (and far more functional) than Dillo. For the tasks you mention, it might be better to use something like links2. Or build Dillo. I'll give it a try. It is certainly heavier than dillo -- 20 new packages and about 10MB to download. It loads pages quickly off the web, though, so it ought to be good and fast for local html documentation. -- Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
On Thursday 12 February 2009 19:25:50 Marc Shapiro wrote: > Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of > dependencies? > > I had been using dillo for things like reading html documentation and > other light-weight tasks, but then I upgraded to Lenny. Dillo is not > available in Lenny. It is still in Etch and in Sid, but not Lenny. I > do NOT use KDE, or GNOME and so am not interested in browsers like > Konqueror, which would require many KDE packages to be installed. I > spent a lot of time eliminating all traces of KDE from my machine, since > artsd kept messing with my audio, so I have no desire to bring it all > back in. > > -- > Marc Shapiro > mshapiro...@yahoo.com Kazehakase: http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/kazehakase It is capable of using either Webkit or Gecko as the rendering engine, but only the Gecko version has been built for Lenny. Obviously, it's heavier (and far more functional) than Dillo. For the tasks you mention, it might be better to use something like links2. Or build Dillo. Lee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
Celejar wrote: On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:25:50 -0800 Marc Shapiro wrote: Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of dependencies? I had been using dillo for things like reading html documentation and other light-weight tasks, but then I upgraded to Lenny. Dillo is not available in Lenny. It is still in Etch and in Sid, but not Lenny. I do NOT use KDE, or GNOME and so am not interested in browsers like Konqueror, which would require many KDE packages to be installed. I spent a lot of time eliminating all traces of KDE from my machine, since artsd kept messing with my audio, so I have no desire to bring it all back in. Apparently in Sid, but not in Lenny, or Etch. -- Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:25:50 -0800 Marc Shapiro wrote: > Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of > dependencies? > > I had been using dillo for things like reading html documentation and > other light-weight tasks, but then I upgraded to Lenny. Dillo is not > available in Lenny. It is still in Etch and in Sid, but not Lenny. I > do NOT use KDE, or GNOME and so am not interested in browsers like > Konqueror, which would require many KDE packages to be installed. I > spent a lot of time eliminating all traces of KDE from my machine, since > artsd kept messing with my audio, so I have no desire to bring it all > back in. Midori? Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Replacement for Dillo web browser
Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of dependencies? I had been using dillo for things like reading html documentation and other light-weight tasks, but then I upgraded to Lenny. Dillo is not available in Lenny. It is still in Etch and in Sid, but not Lenny. I do NOT use KDE, or GNOME and so am not interested in browsers like Konqueror, which would require many KDE packages to be installed. I spent a lot of time eliminating all traces of KDE from my machine, since artsd kept messing with my audio, so I have no desire to bring it all back in. -- Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
