Re: Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 05:22:56PM -0500 or thereabouts, Leonard Chatagnier wrote: Not totally sure what your point is. I have many times did apt-get, aptitude and wajig updates, upgrades, dist-upgrades, installs, removes and purges. I'm certainly no Debian linux expert, if anyone is. I don't know what regex is unless it means regular expresson. apt-cache search didn't find it. You may be telling me that I can download and install a package with aptitude -d install $package name. but I don't know what that Package Name is unless I see it in a cache file or somewheres. I'm willing to be enlightened as after 2 yrs with Debian linux I'm just beginning to know that I don't know anything about it. So go ahead fire away and enlighten me. I usually learn something everytime 'aptitude search package' works for me. I have never really needed to use apt-cache or apt-file to search for applications. I've always used 'aptitude search foo'. For example 'aptitude search webmin' will bring up all the webmin packages available to you to and indicate their status ie installed (A)uto, (C)onfigured etc. Then if you wish more information on a specific package, 'aptitude show package.foo' will give you the dependencies and what the package does/is. HTH -- Regards Stephen signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images
On Sunday 18 June 2006 07:08 am, Stephen wrote: On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 05:22:56PM -0500 or thereabouts, Leonard Chatagnier wrote: Not totally sure what your point is. I have many times did apt-get, aptitude and wajig updates, upgrades, dist-upgrades, installs, removes and purges. I'm certainly no Debian linux expert, if anyone is. I don't know what regex is unless it means regular expresson. apt-cache search didn't find it. You may be telling me that I can download and install a package with aptitude -d install $package name. but I don't know what that Package Name is unless I see it in a cache file or somewheres. I'm willing to be enlightened as after 2 yrs with Debian linux I'm just beginning to know that I don't know anything about it. So go ahead fire away and enlighten me. I usually learn something everytime 'aptitude search package' works for me. I have never really needed to use apt-cache or apt-file to search for applications. I've always used 'aptitude search foo'. For example 'aptitude search webmin' will bring up all the webmin packages available to you to and indicate their status ie installed (A)uto, (C)onfigured etc. Then if you wish more information on a specific package, 'aptitude show package.foo' will give you the dependencies and what the package does/is. HTH I like to use grep to narrow down particular packages, especially things such as modules. For example, if I need MySQL support for PHP4, I'll use the following to find all packages related to PHP and MySQL: 'aptitude search php4 | grep mysql' the result is: v php4-cgi-mysql - i php4-mysql - MySQL module for php4 instead of a long list of PHP packages and then trying to spotting the one related to MySQL. Interprocess piping/filtering is the best! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 08:12:28AM -0500 or thereabouts, Anthony Simonelli wrote: On Sunday 18 June 2006 07:08 am, Stephen wrote: 'aptitude search package' works for me. I have never really needed to use apt-cache or apt-file to search for applications. I've always used 'aptitude search foo'. For example 'aptitude search webmin' will bring up all the webmin packages available to you to and indicate their status ie installed (A)uto, (C)onfigured etc. Then if you wish more information on a specific package, 'aptitude show package.foo' will give you the dependencies and what the package does/is. HTH I like to use grep to narrow down particular packages, especially things such as modules. For example, if I need MySQL support for PHP4, I'll use the following to find all packages related to PHP and MySQL: 'aptitude search php4 | grep mysql' the result is: v php4-cgi-mysql - i php4-mysql - MySQL module for php4 instead of a long list of PHP packages and then trying to spotting the one related to MySQL. Interprocess piping/filtering is the best! Hey, that's pretty cool. I never thought of adding a grep pipe. Thanks ! -- Regards Stephen + The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. -- Wm. Shakespeare, Henry VI, Part IV + signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 05:22:56PM -0500, Leonard Chatagnier wrote: Allen wrote: Why do you care what is in the cache file? If you have apt-cache installed, then you use `apt-cache search $package` to find $package_regex, and if you use aptitude, you can do this to download but install it: `aptitide -d install $package_name` (latter need to be as root). Not totally sure what your point is. I have many times did apt-get, aptitude and wajig updates, upgrades, dist-upgrades, installs, removes and purges. I'm certainly no Debian linux expert, if anyone is. I don't know what regex is unless it means regular expresson. apt-cache search didn't find it. You may be telling me that I can download and install a package with aptitude -d install ... but I don't know what that Package Name is unless I see it in a cache file or somewheres. I'm willing to be enlightened as after 2 yrs with Debian linux I'm just beginning to know that I don't know anything about it. So go ahead fire away and enlighten me. I usually learn something everytime I post or read the list. Other responses in this thread give good suggestions for searching for packages. But, suppose your question is something like: What package contains file or application xyz? In effect, you are saying: I need file/app xyz? What package do I need to install in order to get it? If that is your question, then here is one thing you might try. Go to: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages and click on Search the contents of packages, then search for that file by name. Dave -- Dave Kuhlman http://www.rexx.com/~dkuhlman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images
Hey Guys, thanks for all the comments. I think I may have picked up a few tricks in your comments. However, my issue was not one of searching, it was one of not having the package downloaded and available to install(linux-image- 2.6.5-1-686). I was using sid only and unknown to me the kernel had been moved to testing. After adding testing to my sorces.list, updating and installing, I now have it able to boot. I still don't understand why the 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 KI's were left in the cache(not sid kernels) but 2.6.15 was removed. That's still one unanswered issue. I Think Allen was trying to tell me that I could download and install a package not in the cache file but he didn't come back to my response; didn't mean any offense, just didn't quite understand. And, of course, I still could be missing some point in the reply's. Sure wish you guys would jump on my other repost on mplayer not working posted just above this one. It's my last non-working feature before I do another dist-upgrade but I'm going to wait awhile until some of the critical bugs have been worked out of the kde and x-org packages. Thanks again for all the input. Leonard Chatagnier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images
Leonard Chatagnier wrote: Hey Guys, thanks for all the comments. I think I may have picked up a few tricks in your comments. However, my issue was not one of searching, it was one of not having the package downloaded and available to install(linux-image- 2.6.5-1-686). I was using sid only and unknown to me the kernel had been moved to testing. After adding testing to my sorces.list, updating and installing, I now have it able to boot. I still don't understand why the 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 KI's were left in the cache(not sid kernels) but 2.6.15 was removed. That's still one unanswered issue. I Think Allen was trying to tell me that I could download and install a package not in the cache file but he didn't come back to my response; didn't mean any offense, just didn't quite understand. And, of course, I still could be missing some point in the reply's. Sure wish you guys would jump on my other repost on mplayer not working posted just above this one. It's my last non-working feature before I do another dist-upgrade but I'm going to wait awhile until some of the critical bugs have been worked out of the kde and x-org packages. Thanks again for all the input. Leonard Chatagnier This isn't a bad one... http://www2.actden.com/Writ_Den/tips/paragrap/index.htm Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 11:58:08AM -0700, Dave Kuhlman wrote: Other responses in this thread give good suggestions for searching for packages. But, suppose your question is something like: What package contains file or application xyz? In effect, you are saying: I need file/app xyz? What package do I need to install in order to get it? If that is your question, then here is one thing you might try. Go to: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages and click on Search the contents of packages, then search for that file by name. apt-get install apt-file -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images
This should be an easy one but still no replys. Please someone help me out on this. --- Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org I now have only 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 kernels in my cache file, while a short time ago I had from 2.4.18-bf2.4 to 2.6.16 and everything in between. Aptitude removed a working installed 2.6.15 linux-image before I could blink and I would like to reinstall it but its not there. I did do an autoclean but didn't think that would remove all the linux-images and leave just the 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 in the cache. Would appreciate anyone telling me how to get all the kernel/linux-images back int my cache files so I can pick the one I want instaled. Plz copy my email-not subscribed. Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images
Leonard, On 2006-06-17T10:06:42-0700, Leonard Chatagnier wrote: Would appreciate anyone telling me how to get all the kernel/linux-images back int my cache files so I can pick the one I want instaled. Plz copy my email-not subscribed. Why do you care what is in the cache file? If you have apt-cache installed, then you use `apt-cache search $package` to find $package_regex, and if you use aptitude, you can do this to download but install it: `aptitide -d install $package_name` (latter need to be as root). /Allan signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images
Leonard Chatagnier wrote: This should be an easy one but still no replys. Please someone help me out on this. --- Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org I now have only 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 kernels in my cache file, while a short time ago I had from 2.4.18-bf2.4 to 2.6.16 and everything in between. Aptitude removed a working installed 2.6.15 linux-image before I could blink and I would like to reinstall it but its not there. I did do an autoclean but didn't think that would remove all the linux-images and leave just the 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 in the cache. Would appreciate anyone telling me how to get all the kernel/linux-images back int my cache files so I can pick the one I want instaled. Plz copy my email-not subscribed. Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] You dont say what version of debian you are running but I assume its sid as this is the only one that has 2.6.16 at the moment. It would appear you have installed some sort of meta package that will always depend on the latest kernel so it has correctly upgraded you to 2.6.16. The aptitude autoclean will have removed the old debs because they are no longer available in the unstable repository, which I assume is all you have in your sources.list. Try adding the testing repositories into your sources list (copy your existing lines for unstable/sid and change to testing/etch) then do #aptitude update #aptitude search linux-image-2.6.15 #aptitude install linux-image-2.6.15-whatever-version-you-want You may also consider removing the generic meta package that caused this kernel upgrade in the first place. It will probably be called something like *linux-image-2.6-your-arch*. HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images-SOLVED
--- Wackojacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leonard Chatagnier wrote: This should be an easy one but still no replys. Please someone help me out on this. --- Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org I now have only 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 kernels in my cache file, while a short time ago I had from 2.4.18-bf2.4 to 2.6.16 and everything in between. Aptitude removed a working installed 2.6.15 linux-image before I could blink and I would like to reinstall it but its not there. I did do an autoclean but didn't think that would remove all the linux-images and leave just the 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 in the cache. Would appreciate anyone telling me how to get all the kernel/linux-images back int my cache files so I can pick the one I want instaled. Plz copy my email-not subscribed. Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] You dont say what version of debian you are running but I assume its sid as this is the only one that has 2.6.16 at the moment. It would appear you have installed some sort of meta package that will always depend on the latest kernel so it has correctly upgraded you to 2.6.16. I am using unstable but have not installed any meta packages envolving kernel or linux-images. dpkg -l | grep meta only shows metas for xorg, kde's, exim4, some libs and some wms. I have installed myself the 2.6.8-2-686, 2.6.15-1-686 and 2.6.16-1.686 images; aptitude auto-rmed the 2.6.15 kernel and left the other 2 in place. The aptitude autoclean will have removed the old debs because they are no longer available in the unstable repository, which I assume is all you have in your sources.list. Currently, yes. But, I did add etch back in and updated but no kernels except 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 and those metas you refered to. I'll add sarge and etch back in sources.list and retry just to be sure. Try adding the testing repositories into your sources list (copy your existing lines for unstable/sid and change to testing/etch) then do #aptitude update #aptitude search linux-image-2.6.15 #aptitude install linux-image-2.6.15-whatever-version-you-want Roger You may also consider removing the generic meta package that caused this kernel upgrade in the first place. It will probably be called something like *linux-image-2.6-your-arch*. I looked real hard with wajig search, list, show and could not find any linux-image-2.6-i??? packages installed. I know I didn't install one intentionally. Well, surprised me this time after adding etch back in again one more time and updating I found the 2.6.15 images with wajig search kernel image but not with linux-image. did the 2.6.12 images go to stable as I don't see it in the listing. AAMF, I only see 2.4.27, 2.6.8, 2.6.15 and 2.6.16 images and I think there are many more than those listed. Anyway, issue solved for now. Thanks Wackojacko for your help. HTH Wackojacko Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images-SOLVED
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 02:49:50PM -0700, Leonard Chatagnier wrote: --- Wackojacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leonard Chatagnier wrote: This should be an easy one but still no replys. Please someone help me out on this. --- Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org I now have only 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 kernels in my cache file, while a short time ago I had from 2.4.18-bf2.4 to 2.6.16 and everything in between. Aptitude removed a working installed 2.6.15 linux-image before I could blink and I would like to reinstall it but its not there. I did do an autoclean but didn't think that would remove all the linux-images and leave just the 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 in the cache. Would appreciate anyone telling me how to get all the kernel/linux-images back int my cache files so I can pick the one I want instaled. Plz copy my email-not subscribed. Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leonard Chatagnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] You dont say what version of debian you are running but I assume its sid as this is the only one that has 2.6.16 at the moment. It would appear you have installed some sort of meta package that will always depend on the latest kernel so it has correctly upgraded you to 2.6.16. I am using unstable but have not installed any meta packages envolving kernel or linux-images. dpkg -l | grep meta only shows metas for xorg, kde's, exim4, some libs and some wms. I have installed myself the 2.6.8-2-686, 2.6.15-1-686 and 2.6.16-1.686 images; aptitude auto-rmed the 2.6.15 kernel and left the other 2 in place. The aptitude autoclean will have removed the old debs because they are no longer available in the unstable repository, which I assume is all you have in your sources.list. Currently, yes. But, I did add etch back in and updated but no kernels except 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 and those metas you refered to. I'll add sarge and etch back in sources.list and retry just to be sure. Try adding the testing repositories into your sources list (copy your existing lines for unstable/sid and change to testing/etch) then do #aptitude update #aptitude search linux-image-2.6.15 #aptitude install linux-image-2.6.15-whatever-version-you-want Roger You may also consider removing the generic meta package that caused this kernel upgrade in the first place. It will probably be called something like *linux-image-2.6-your-arch*. I looked real hard with wajig search, list, show and could not find any linux-image-2.6-i??? packages installed. I know I didn't install one intentionally. Well, surprised me this time after adding etch back in again one more time and updating I found the 2.6.15 images with wajig search kernel image but not with linux-image. did the 2.6.12 images go to stable as I don't see it in the listing. AAMF, I only see 2.4.27, 2.6.8, 2.6.15 and 2.6.16 images and I think there are many more than those listed. Anyway, issue solved for now. Thanks Wackojacko for your help. Looks like you still want a mechanism for keeping specific versions of specific packages in cache. What I do is copy the .debs elsewhere, such as /usr/local/debs/ That way they stay around, at the cost of some duplicaiton. Hmmm. Maybe a hard-link from /usr/local/debs/ to the .deb in tha cache? That way when the cache file is deleted, the hard-link will still keep that file intact. But then you might want to use something likd /var/local/debs/ so that keep-directory resides on the same file-system as the target of the hard-links. Soft-links (which cross file-systems) won't work for this. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images
Allen wrote: Why do you care what is in the cache file? If you have apt-cache installed, then you use `apt-cache search $package` to find $package_regex, and if you use aptitude, you can do this to download but install it: `aptitide -d install $package_name` (latter need to be as root). Not totally sure what your point is. I have many times did apt-get, aptitude and wajig updates, upgrades, dist-upgrades, installs, removes and purges. I'm certainly no Debian linux expert, if anyone is. I don't know what regex is unless it means regular expresson. apt-cache search didn't find it. You may be telling me that I can download and install a package with aptitude -d install $package name. but I don't know what that Package Name is unless I see it in a cache file or somewheres. I'm willing to be enlightened as after 2 yrs with Debian linux I'm just beginning to know that I don't know anything about it. So go ahead fire away and enlighten me. I usually learn something everytime I post or read the list. Leonard Chatagnier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Repost-No Response-Fwd: Another APT Issue-Where Are The Linux-Images-SOLVED
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 02:49:50PM -0700, Leonard Chatagnier wrote: --- Wackojacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leonard Chatagnier wrote: snip Looks like you still want a mechanism for keeping specific versions of specific packages in cache. What I do is copy the .debs elsewhere, such as /usr/local/debs/ That way they stay around, at the cost of some duplicaiton. Hmmm. Maybe a hard-link from /usr/local/debs/ to the .deb in tha cache? That way when the cache file is deleted, the hard-link will still keep that file intact. But then you might want to use something likd /var/local/debs/ so that keep-directory resides on the same file-system as the target of the hard-links. Soft-links (which cross file-systems) won't work for this. -- hendrik Yes, I do but more importantly, an explanation of why I have a 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 kernel images in the cache(they are not sid) along with the 2.6.16 KI. Would not auto-clean remove the 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 images also. Something is inconsistent here, to me anyway, and an explanation would enlighten me. Aptitude auto removed the 2.6.15-1-686 KI and left 2.6.8 and 2.6.16 KI's installed otherwise all this wouldn't have ever come up. Thanks for any feedback. Leonard Chatagnier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
