Re: Restoring old root partitions.

2004-04-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 09:21:41PM -0600, S.Squarepants wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:27:23 -0500
> "Thomas G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > S.Squarepants wrote:
> > 
> > >On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:03:17 -0500
> > >"Thomas G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > >I messed up my boot sector. 
> > >Please help me Im getting desperate.

> > >Why not go in with a rescue disk of some sort, chroot to the original
> > >setup, run lilo and reboot into your original setup?

> Basically, you boot up the rescue disk, mount whatever partition needed

> For example, say your root partition is /dev/hda1. You boot the rescue
> disk. Then mount your root partition, say /mnt/hda1 (can be anywhere,
> just as an example). Then you issue the command:

This is correct but it can be easier.

At boot prompt, just type "rescue root=/dev/hda1"

For more, see:

 http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-booting

Or install debian-reference-en

Osamu


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Re: Restoring old root partitions.

2004-04-01 Thread Thomas G.
S.Squarepants wrote:

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:27:23 -0500
"Thomas G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

S.Squarepants wrote:

   

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:03:17 -0500
"Thomas G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 

Ok well I have 2 scsi drives in my machine. One of which has my old
root partition from when I messed up my boot sector. If I install
   

sid>again on a fresh new partition on the second drive is there
anyway to>pull the old info back over and make everything run like it
used too.>All configuration files and everything (except the lilo
files). I>really had everything working nice. Please help me Im
getting>desperate.
 

Thanks
Thomas
  

   

Why not go in with a rescue disk of some sort, chroot to the original
setup, run lilo and reboot into your original setup?
If you've already tried that, kindly ignore me.

If you haven't, it's a good way to recover from such disasters. I've
used it a couple of times myself.


 

Well... I know my way around linux but i dont know a thing about
chroot. im self tought and I have a serious reading problem so fill me
in on how I do that?
thanks
Thomas
   

Basically, you boot up the rescue disk, mount whatever partition needed
and chroot to it. Then you mount any others needed to support what
you're doing, such as /boot if it's separate.
For example, say your root partition is /dev/hda1. You boot the rescue
disk. Then mount your root partition, say /mnt/hda1 (can be anywhere,
just as an example). Then you issue the command:
chroot /mnt/hda1

Now you're on your root partition. The others are still there, but you
can't see them now because they're in a different environment.
If/boot is separate, just mount it as you normally do:

mount /boot

Then fix/run lilo or grub or whatever you're trying to use, umount any
additional partitions you may have mounted (/boot in the example), exit
the chroot environment ('exit') and reboot (see below for some caveats).
You should be back in business if your conf files are correct and the
bootloader is written properly.
Most any CD can be used as a rescue disk this way. You could even begin
an installation CD and go to a different virtual console to get to a
commandline and work it out.
If using some CDs, they sometimes go ahead an mount all partitions
without asking. Check that and umount anything you'll need to remount
for the chroot environment, leaving the root partition mounted. Or mount
the root partition if the rescue disk doesn't mount it for you. Again,
as an example, if the CD automatically mounts partitions for you, umount
the one needed to be mounted as /boot, then chroot and mount it where
it's supposed to be.
It's often a good idea to umount any partitions prior to a reboot since
some CDs don't automatically do it, and it will mean unclean umounts at
reboot, with corresponding fsck (if required) for each.
This can also be a backdoor into a system that has booting problems that
one can't seem to figure out how to fix. The downside is the CD drive
can't be used for anything else.
By the by, I'm nearly 100% self-taught, too. It takes time, but I seem
to learn things better when I finally figure them out.
 

Well I solved my problem about 20 minutes about you mentioned chroot. I 
kind of just took a guess at it and it worked perfectly. Kind of funny 
friends got a good kick out of looking at my face when they saw me fix a 
problem I could fix in 2 weeks in like 2 min. Thanks for all the help.

Sincerely
Thomas G.
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Re: Restoring old root partitions.

2004-03-31 Thread S.Squarepants
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:27:23 -0500
"Thomas G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> S.Squarepants wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:03:17 -0500
> >"Thomas G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Ok well I have 2 scsi drives in my machine. One of which has my old
> >>root partition from when I messed up my boot sector. If I install
> >sid>again on a fresh new partition on the second drive is there
> >anyway to>pull the old info back over and make everything run like it
> >used too.>All configuration files and everything (except the lilo
> >files). I>really had everything working nice. Please help me Im
> >getting>desperate.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Why not go in with a rescue disk of some sort, chroot to the original
> >setup, run lilo and reboot into your original setup?
> >
> >If you've already tried that, kindly ignore me.
> >
> >If you haven't, it's a good way to recover from such disasters. I've
> >used it a couple of times myself.
> >
> >  
> >
> Well... I know my way around linux but i dont know a thing about
> chroot. im self tought and I have a serious reading problem so fill me
> in on how I do that?
> 
> 
> thanks
> Thomas

Basically, you boot up the rescue disk, mount whatever partition needed
and chroot to it. Then you mount any others needed to support what
you're doing, such as /boot if it's separate.

For example, say your root partition is /dev/hda1. You boot the rescue
disk. Then mount your root partition, say /mnt/hda1 (can be anywhere,
just as an example). Then you issue the command:

chroot /mnt/hda1

Now you're on your root partition. The others are still there, but you
can't see them now because they're in a different environment.

If/boot is separate, just mount it as you normally do:

mount /boot

Then fix/run lilo or grub or whatever you're trying to use, umount any
additional partitions you may have mounted (/boot in the example), exit
the chroot environment ('exit') and reboot (see below for some caveats).
You should be back in business if your conf files are correct and the
bootloader is written properly.

Most any CD can be used as a rescue disk this way. You could even begin
an installation CD and go to a different virtual console to get to a
commandline and work it out.

If using some CDs, they sometimes go ahead an mount all partitions
without asking. Check that and umount anything you'll need to remount
for the chroot environment, leaving the root partition mounted. Or mount
the root partition if the rescue disk doesn't mount it for you. Again,
as an example, if the CD automatically mounts partitions for you, umount
the one needed to be mounted as /boot, then chroot and mount it where
it's supposed to be.

It's often a good idea to umount any partitions prior to a reboot since
some CDs don't automatically do it, and it will mean unclean umounts at
reboot, with corresponding fsck (if required) for each.

This can also be a backdoor into a system that has booting problems that
one can't seem to figure out how to fix. The downside is the CD drive
can't be used for anything else.

By the by, I'm nearly 100% self-taught, too. It takes time, but I seem
to learn things better when I finally figure them out.

-- 
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SpongeBob Squarepants
Absorbent and yellow and porous is he.
SpongeBob Squarepants
If nautical nonsense be something you wish,
then drop on the deck and flop like a fish!


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Re: Restoring old root partitions.

2004-03-31 Thread Thomas G.
S.Squarepants wrote:

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:03:17 -0500
"Thomas G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Ok well I have 2 scsi drives in my machine. One of which has my old
root partition from when I messed up my boot sector. If I install sid
again on a fresh new partition on the second drive is there anyway to
pull the old info back over and make everything run like it used too.
All configuration files and everything (except the lilo files). I
really had everything working nice. Please help me Im getting
desperate.
Thanks
Thomas
   

Why not go in with a rescue disk of some sort, chroot to the original
setup, run lilo and reboot into your original setup?
If you've already tried that, kindly ignore me.

If you haven't, it's a good way to recover from such disasters. I've
used it a couple of times myself.
 

Well... I know my way around linux but i dont know a thing about chroot. 
im self tought and I have a serious reading problem so fill me in on how 
I do that?

thanks
Thomas
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Re: Restoring old root partitions.

2004-03-31 Thread S.Squarepants
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:03:17 -0500
"Thomas G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok well I have 2 scsi drives in my machine. One of which has my old
> root partition from when I messed up my boot sector. If I install sid
> again on a fresh new partition on the second drive is there anyway to
> pull the old info back over and make everything run like it used too.
> All configuration files and everything (except the lilo files). I
> really had everything working nice. Please help me Im getting
> desperate.
> 
> Thanks
> Thomas

Why not go in with a rescue disk of some sort, chroot to the original
setup, run lilo and reboot into your original setup?

If you've already tried that, kindly ignore me.

If you haven't, it's a good way to recover from such disasters. I've
used it a couple of times myself.

-- 
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
SpongeBob Squarepants
Absorbent and yellow and porous is he.
SpongeBob Squarepants
If nautical nonsense be something you wish,
then drop on the deck and flop like a fish!


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Restoring old root partitions.

2004-03-31 Thread Thomas G.
Ok well I have 2 scsi drives in my machine. One of which has my old root 
partition from when I messed up my boot sector. If I install sid again 
on a fresh new partition on the second drive is there anyway to pull the 
old info back over and make everything run like it used too. All 
configuration files and everything (except the lilo files). I really had 
everything working nice. Please help me Im getting desperate.

Thanks
Thomas
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