Re: SOLVED: DMA is turned off on my HDD

2008-08-04 Thread Anton Liaukevich

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 21:57:56 +0300, Anton Liaukevich wrote:
I have read some docs in the inet. I have understood what is initrd, how  
to use initramfs-tools debian package (in particular, update-initramfs  
command and /etc/initramfs-tools/modules file). I have being intended  
to add blacklist ide-generic string to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules  
file  to run initramfs-tools -k $(uname -r) -u command but when I  
opened this file I was shocked. That is I have seen:


# Added by Debian Installer
ide-generic

I decided simply delete this string from modules file (and update  
initrd then). And it has solved the problem!


I am glad to hear that you have DMA working now. 

Nevertheless, I don't understand why Debian Installer add this  
ill-started module to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules file. Seems the bug  
to be Debian-specific.


If the information on the Debian driver check page is correct, i.e. if
you really need kernel 2.6.25 for the amd74xx module to work with your
controller, then it may be reasonable to add ide_generic to /etc/modules
to reduce the risk of the system not booting at all. (The installer has
kernel 2.6.24.) However that may be, please send an installation report
to the Debian installer team, describing your problems.


Now I'm intended to update initrd for all my kernels ;).


Watch out, the 2.6.24 kernel might need ide_generic to use the
controller at all.


I have ventured to update initrd for all my kernels and the result is
good! But I have one more question. There is list of my kernels:

leva:/home/anthony# awk '{if ($1==kernel  $NF!=single) print $2}' 
/boot/grub/menu.lst

/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25-2-686
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-686
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-486

468-kernel is needed for me in case I will change my cpu to 
686-incompatible :) or I will transport my hdd to old computer and boot 
Debian from it.


But can I boot at least one of my kernels if I simply change my 
motherboard to one with non-nVidia chipset (that don't use amd74xx 
module) (after updating initrd for all kernels)?


ide-generic module seem to be not-loaded:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod | grep 'ide'
video  19728  0
output  3712  1 video
ide_cd_mod 32864  0
cdrom  31872  1 ide_cd_mod
ide_disk   13952  8
ide_pci_generic 4228  0 [permanent]
ide_core  100312  4 ide_cd_mod,ide_disk,ide_pci_generic,amd74xx

But it is included in initrd:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ zcat /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r) | cpio --quiet -t | 
grep -E '(ide|ata|amd)[^/]*\.ko'

lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_sil.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_sis.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_sx4.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_svw.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_uli.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_via.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_vsc.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/pata_artop.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_mv.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_nv.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_sil24.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/ata_generic.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_promise.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/pata_sis.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_qstor.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/pata_marvell.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/ata_piix.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/sata_inic162x.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ata/libata.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/amd74xx.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/ide-pci-generic.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-core.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-pnp.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-disk.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-cd_mod.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-tape.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/legacy/ide-cs.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-generic.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-floppy.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/scsi/eata.ko
lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/block/paride/paride.ko

Similarly for other kernels:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ zcat /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-1-686 | cpio --quiet -t | 
grep 'ide-generic'

lib/modules/2.6.24-1-686/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-generic.ko
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ zcat /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-1-486 | cpio --quiet -t | 
grep 'ide-generic'

lib/modules/2.6.24-1-486/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-generic.ko


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Re: SOLVED: DMA is turned off on my HDD

2008-08-04 Thread Ron Johnson

On 08/04/08 06:39, Anton Liaukevich wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 21:57:56 +0300, Anton Liaukevich wrote:
I have read some docs in the inet. I have understood what is initrd, 
how  to use initramfs-tools debian package (in particular, 
update-initramfs  command and /etc/initramfs-tools/modules file). I 
have being intended  to add blacklist ide-generic string to 
/etc/initramfs-tools/modules  file  to run initramfs-tools -k 
$(uname -r) -u command but when I  opened this file I was shocked. 
That is I have seen:


# Added by Debian Installer
ide-generic

I decided simply delete this string from modules file (and update  
initrd then). And it has solved the problem!


I am glad to hear that you have DMA working now.
Nevertheless, I don't understand why Debian Installer add this  
ill-started module to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules file. Seems the 
bug  to be Debian-specific.


If the information on the Debian driver check page is correct, i.e. if
you really need kernel 2.6.25 for the amd74xx module to work with your
controller, then it may be reasonable to add ide_generic to /etc/modules
to reduce the risk of the system not booting at all. (The installer has
kernel 2.6.24.) However that may be, please send an installation report
to the Debian installer team, describing your problems.


Now I'm intended to update initrd for all my kernels ;).


Watch out, the 2.6.24 kernel might need ide_generic to use the
controller at all.


I have ventured to update initrd for all my kernels and the result is
good! But I have one more question. There is list of my kernels:

leva:/home/anthony# awk '{if ($1==kernel  $NF!=single) print $2}' 
/boot/grub/menu.lst

/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25-2-686
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-686
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-486

468-kernel is needed for me in case I will change my cpu to 
686-incompatible :) or I will transport my hdd to old computer and boot 
Debian from it.


AFAICT, the only currently-shipping ia32 686-incompatible chips are 
the Via C7 chips which go in little semi-embedded machines.


But can I boot at least one of my kernels if I simply change my 
motherboard to one with non-nVidia chipset (that don't use amd74xx 
module) (after updating initrd for all kernels)?


Yes.  That's how I moved my hard drive from my old machine to the 
new one.


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Re: SOLVED: DMA is turned off on my HDD

2008-07-30 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 21:57:56 +0300, Anton Liaukevich wrote:
 Andrei Popescu wrote:
 amd74xx module seems to be included in my initrd:

 [...]

 lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-generic.ko

 And so is ide-generic. You could try to rebuild the initrd without it,  
 BUT:

[...]

 I have read some docs in the inet. I have understood what is initrd, how  
 to use initramfs-tools debian package (in particular, update-initramfs  
 command and /etc/initramfs-tools/modules file). I have being intended  
 to add blacklist ide-generic string to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules  
 file  to run initramfs-tools -k $(uname -r) -u command but when I  
 opened this file I was shocked. That is I have seen:

 # Added by Debian Installer
 ide-generic

 I decided simply delete this string from modules file (and update  
 initrd then). And it has solved the problem!

I am glad to hear that you have DMA working now. 

[...]

 Now I suppose that 2nd Florian's solution (booting with  
 blacklist=ide_generic appended to the kernel command line) hasn't  
 helped me because ill-started module was ide-generic (nor  
 ide_generic (minus instead of underscope)). If I make mistakes please  
 correct me.

I think that - and underscore are equivalent when it comes to module
names: modinfo ide-generic works the same as modinfo ide_generic.
The module file itself has - in its name, i.e. ide-generic.ko.

In any case, I think that appending blacklist=... will only influence
what is loaded in the initrd stage. AFAIK, modules that are mentioned in
/etc/modules will be loaded after the root FS has been mounted
irrespective of the earlier blacklist directives.

 Nevertheless, I don't understand why Debian Installer add this  
 ill-started module to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules file. Seems the bug  
 to be Debian-specific.
 For information: I was install Lenny from netinst 7.3MB mini.iso (Lenny,  
 i386, built before 2008-07-02) (downloaded from  
 ftp://ftp.mgts.by/pub/debian-cd/ mirror). I use ftp.mgts.by/debian/  
 Debian mirror.

If the information on the Debian driver check page is correct, i.e. if
you really need kernel 2.6.25 for the amd74xx module to work with your
controller, then it may be reasonable to add ide_generic to /etc/modules
to reduce the risk of the system not booting at all. (The installer has
kernel 2.6.24.) However that may be, please send an installation report
to the Debian installer team, describing your problems.

 Now I'm intended to update initrd for all my kernels ;).

Watch out, the 2.6.24 kernel might need ide_generic to use the
controller at all.

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Re: SOLVED: DMA is turned off on my HDD

2008-07-29 Thread Anton Liaukevich

Andrei Popescu wrote:

amd74xx module seems to be included in my initrd:


[...]


lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-generic.ko


And so is ide-generic. You could try to rebuild the initrd without it, 
BUT:


1. I don't know how to do it
2. You might end up with an unbootable system

For 1. it might be enough to just rebuild the initrd with the 
blacklisted module. Otherwise you will have to unpack it, remove the 
module and repack it. You should be able to find instructions on the net 
for this procedure.


To avoid 2. it would be best to keep the current initrds and create a 
backup stanza in grub to use it.


Regards,
Andrei


Great thanks to Ron Johnson, Pavlos Parissis, Bob Cox, Florian Kulzer, 
Chris Bannister  Andrei Popescu.


I have read some docs in the inet. I have understood what is initrd, how 
to use initramfs-tools debian package (in particular, update-initramfs 
command and /etc/initramfs-tools/modules file). I have being intended 
to add blacklist ide-generic string to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules 
file  to run initramfs-tools -k $(uname -r) -u command but when I 
opened this file I was shocked. That is I have seen:


# Added by Debian Installer
ide-generic

I decided simply delete this string from modules file (and update 
initrd then). And it has solved the problem!
While rebooting I haven't being seen warning message from fsck (about 
turned off dma mode). And after reboot I was convinced that DMA is on:


leva:/home/anthony/admin# hdparm /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 multcount =  0 (off)
 IO_support=  1 (32-bit)
 unmaskirq =  1 (on)
 using_dma =  1 (on)
 keepsettings  =  0 (off)
 readonly  =  0 (off)
 readahead = 256 (on)
 geometry  = 16383/255/63, sectors = 234441648, start = 0

Moreover my system became much faster and Debian boot time (from Grub to 
X11) (which I can see in the new 2.6.25 kernel) has reduced from 90 
seconds to 30 seconds!


Now I suppose that 2nd Florian's solution (booting with 
blacklist=ide_generic appended to the kernel command line) hasn't 
helped me because ill-started module was ide-generic (nor 
ide_generic (minus instead of underscope)). If I make mistakes please 
correct me.


Nevertheless, I don't understand why Debian Installer add this 
ill-started module to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules file. Seems the bug 
to be Debian-specific.
For information: I was install Lenny from netinst 7.3MB mini.iso (Lenny, 
i386, built before 2008-07-02) (downloaded from 
ftp://ftp.mgts.by/pub/debian-cd/ mirror). I use ftp.mgts.by/debian/ 
Debian mirror.


Now I'm intended to update initrd for all my kernels ;).


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