Re: SOLVED Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2
> > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:50:32 -0400, Stefan Monnier posted: > > > FWIW, I find that running Lenny on a 64MB machine is bearable but slowish, > > > and Etch was already "too slow" on a 32MB machine. So make sure you have > > > enough RAM. > > > For very simple uses, it works with less RAM, but as soon as you need to > > > "apt-get install" or "apt-get upgrade" the memory limit becomes severe. Yeah. You may have to shut every unnecessary process down just to run "aptitude update". But Lenny isn't too bad. I installed Lenny on a 64MB box a while back, and first it appeared almost unusable, but after a bit of tweaking it's now running happily as a DNS server and mail relay. The biggest memory hog was rsyslogd, but it's memory footprint shrunk from about 28MB down to 4MB simply by adding 'ulimit -s 128' to /etc/default/rsyslog. -- Tapani Tarvainen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: SOLVED Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 05:11:43AM -0700, Thorny wrote: > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:50:32 -0400, Stefan Monnier posted: > > >> Discussing this has inspired me to put another line on my hobby list, I > >> will eventually drag out an old P1 100MHz I have and try loading Lenny > >> on it. Or, maybe I shouldn't thank you for that, it's not like I don't > >> already have enough projects. > > > > FWIW, I find that running Lenny on a 64MB machine is bearable but slowish, > > and Etch was already "too slow" on a 32MB machine. So make sure you have > > enough RAM. > > For very simple uses, it works with less RAM, but as soon as you need to > > "apt-get install" or "apt-get upgrade" the memory limit becomes severe. > > > > It will be only a "hobby" system, slow would be acceptable. Thanks for > sharing your experience. However, consider that a lot of the slowness is due to heavy swap usage. On an old system, with old drives, it may cause concern for the old IDE drives. My old "hobby" systems run OpenBSD: much faster (even when not swaping). Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: SOLVED Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:50:32 -0400, Stefan Monnier posted: >> Discussing this has inspired me to put another line on my hobby list, I >> will eventually drag out an old P1 100MHz I have and try loading Lenny >> on it. Or, maybe I shouldn't thank you for that, it's not like I don't >> already have enough projects. > > FWIW, I find that running Lenny on a 64MB machine is bearable but slowish, > and Etch was already "too slow" on a 32MB machine. So make sure you have > enough RAM. > For very simple uses, it works with less RAM, but as soon as you need to > "apt-get install" or "apt-get upgrade" the memory limit becomes severe. > It will be only a "hobby" system, slow would be acceptable. Thanks for sharing your experience. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: SOLVED Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2
> Discussing this has inspired me to put another line on my hobby list, I > will eventually drag out an old P1 100MHz I have and try loading Lenny on > it. Or, maybe I shouldn't thank you for that, it's not like I don't > already have enough projects. FWIW, I find that running Lenny on a 64MB machine is bearable but slowish, and Etch was already "too slow" on a 32MB machine. So make sure you have enough RAM. For very simple uses, it works with less RAM, but as soon as you need to "apt-get install" or "apt-get upgrade" the memory limit becomes severe. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: SOLVED Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:30:07 -0600, Robert Hodgins posted: > On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 14:13 -0600, Robert Hodgins wrote: >> Thank you to everyone who has offered suggestions. I'll keep fiddling >> around with this computer. If something works, I'll let you know. >> >> > Turns out the problem was likely hardware related. Over the weekend, I > had noticed that SBM wasn't detecting the DVD/CD player all the time. > Yesterday, the hard drive was undetectable. Given that both units > function on other machines, I believe that the computer's drive > controller was slowly dying while I was working with it and ultimately > gave up the ghost Monday. > > Thanks again to everyone who helped me with this. Thanks to you for getting back to us. Discussing this has inspired me to put another line on my hobby list, I will eventually drag out an old P1 100MHz I have and try loading Lenny on it. Or, maybe I shouldn't thank you for that, it's not like I don't already have enough projects. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: SOLVED Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:40:05 +0100 Robert Hodgins wrote: > Turns out the problem was likely hardware related. > ok this is good to know since we have several older machines we want to install debian on. does it ever make sense to install older versions on older machines? or is it better to just go with the latest? -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
SOLVED Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2
On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 14:13 -0600, Robert Hodgins wrote: > Thank you to everyone who has offered suggestions. I'll keep fiddling > around with this computer. If something works, I'll let you know. > > Turns out the problem was likely hardware related. Over the weekend, I had noticed that SBM wasn't detecting the DVD/CD player all the time. Yesterday, the hard drive was undetectable. Given that both units function on other machines, I believe that the computer's drive controller was slowly dying while I was working with it and ultimately gave up the ghost Monday. Thanks again to everyone who helped me with this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
