Re: Samba + external drives
koffiejunkie wrote: Right, I just finished doing some tests. Via NFS and FTP, to the external disc, the same thing happens. The copy runs fine (I was copying a 3.9GB ISO) for a random amount of time - shortest now was 300MB, longest was just under 3GB - and then the disc seem to get unplugged. Then, I repeated the tests, with samba, NFS and ftp, copying the same ISO to my home directory on the notebook, and this worked without a problem. I copied the file from the notebook's drive to the external drive - no problem. Then I tried the following. I ftp-ed to localhost, and did a put file.iso to the external drive. This worked 100% I did similar tests with nfs and smb, connecting to localhost and copying the file via the smb/nfs clients - al worked fine. I also did at least one failed and one successful each using the notebook's wireless instead of wired network, to rule out network hardware, and repeated all the tests from my second notebook (which runs Debian too). So it's just a mix of network and network copy that seems to cause problems. I hope that's better :-) Any ideas? Some further info. I mentioned this problem to a colleague, and his first thought was that he has had some issues with KDE and Gnome's automount-type daemons. So I booted into a console, didn't log into KDE (although gdm was running), mounted the external disc by hand, and then copied lots of stuff via the network to it. It worked solidly for more than an hour. Then, while I had a DVD ISO copying, I logged into KDE and started writing a DVD (off the external disc). It fialed halfway through with K3B moaning that it couln't read the file. Looked back at the logs, external disc just got unplugged. So it would seem the automount stuff is causing this. But why? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba + external drives
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/07 17:59, koffiejunkie wrote: [snip] So it would seem the automount stuff is causing this. But why? Because automounting is a bad/Evil Windows idea, and it's taking it's Evil revenge out on us by causing such problems. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGx3t5S9HxQb37XmcRAtJ4AKDe6VvpPbivWEVcBHd3I2btFakd8QCg1/4o vGE7rYpMYAhvZpCy2h8IcUw= =YQNl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba + external drives
Ron Johnson wrote: What if you FTP the file from the OSX box to the firewire drive on the external drive? That might narrow down the problem. I'll give it a try tonight. I suspect it will work :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba + external drives
Ron Johnson wrote: What if you FTP the file from the OSX box to the firewire drive on the external drive? That might narrow down the problem. Right, I just finished doing some tests. Via NFS and FTP, to the external disc, the same thing happens. The copy runs fine (I was copying a 3.9GB ISO) for a random amount of time - shortest now was 300MB, longest was just under 3GB - and then the disc seem to get unplugged. Then, I repeated the tests, with samba, NFS and ftp, copying the same ISO to my home directory on the notebook, and this worked without a problem. I copied the file from the notebook's drive to the external drive - no problem. Then I tried the following. I ftp-ed to localhost, and did a put file.iso to the external drive. This worked 100% I did similar tests with nfs and smb, connecting to localhost and copying the file via the smb/nfs clients - al worked fine. I also did at least one failed and one successful each using the notebook's wireless instead of wired network, to rule out network hardware, and repeated all the tests from my second notebook (which runs Debian too). So it's just a mix of network and network copy that seems to cause problems. I hope that's better :-) Any ideas? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba + external drives
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/15/07 17:38, koffiejunkie wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: What if you FTP the file from the OSX box to the firewire drive on the external drive? That might narrow down the problem. Right, I just finished doing some tests. Via NFS and FTP, to the external disc, the same thing happens. The copy runs fine (I was copying a 3.9GB ISO) for a random amount of time - shortest now was 300MB, longest was just under 3GB - and then the disc seem to get unplugged. Then, I repeated the tests, with samba, NFS and ftp, copying the same ISO to my home directory on the notebook, and this worked without a problem. I copied the file from the notebook's drive to the external drive - no problem. Then I tried the following. I ftp-ed to localhost, and did a put file.iso to the external drive. This worked 100% I did similar tests with nfs and smb, connecting to localhost and copying the file via the smb/nfs clients - al worked fine. I also did at least one failed and one successful each using the notebook's wireless instead of wired network, to rule out network hardware, and repeated all the tests from my second notebook (which runs Debian too). So it's just a mix of network and network copy that seems to cause problems. I hope that's better :-) Any ideas? Yeah. Beg for help on lkml. :( You've asked a relatively smart question. I hope lkml can help even more. http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGw9meS9HxQb37XmcRAvveAJ0RamotKb9uEeYNVgL2mqtlhlxnGwCghgXU hage0DHask9sYlxD8CUkWe0= =VxK2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba + external drives
So it's just a mix of network and network copy that seems to cause problems. I hope that's better :-) Any ideas? I'd try linux-kernel. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Samba + external drives
Hi guys, I have a strange problem. I use an external IDE/Firewire enclosure on my notebook. This works 100%, is solid as a rock and performs very very well. It works with USB2 too, reliably, just slower. I have a Mac Mini at home, so I have some samba shares on the external drive. The Mac can acess them fine (OS X 10.4), but when I copy large a file from the Mac to one of the shares on the external drive, it copies a bit and then fails saying something to the effect that the share is not accessible. Looking back at the notebook, syslog gives me the kind of errors you get when unplugging a disc without unmounting it. So my first thought was that either the disc or the enclosure was going bad. So I ran an fsck on the disc, which came out fine. Copying huge files to it directly from the notebook works fine as well. So it seems to be fine. Then I remembered I had a similar problem at a client copying from Windows to a samba server on an external (USB2) drive. Different machines, different drives, different distro (SUSE 9.2 or 10.0 at the time). I have since tried various distros on my notebook (extra partition), and I always get the same result, so it seems to be a persisten samba issue. Has anyone else seen this? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba + external drives
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/14/07 14:40, koffiejunkie wrote: Hi guys, I have a strange problem. I use an external IDE/Firewire enclosure on my notebook. This works 100%, is solid as a rock and performs very very well. It works with USB2 too, reliably, just slower. I have a Mac Mini at home, so I have some samba shares on the external drive. The Mac can acess them fine (OS X 10.4), but when I copy large a file from the Mac to one of the shares on the external drive, it copies a bit and then fails saying something to the effect that the share is not accessible. Looking back at the notebook, syslog gives me the kind of errors you get when unplugging a disc without unmounting it. So my first thought was that either the disc or the enclosure was going bad. So I ran an fsck on the disc, which came out fine. Copying huge files to it directly from the notebook works fine as well. So it seems to be fine. Then I remembered I had a similar problem at a client copying from Windows to a samba server on an external (USB2) drive. Different machines, different drives, different distro (SUSE 9.2 or 10.0 at the time). I have since tried various distros on my notebook (extra partition), and I always get the same result, so it seems to be a persisten samba issue. Has anyone else seen this? But samba works well when transferring from OSX to an internal drive? What does Google say? What kernel are you running? Debian or home-rolled? A syslog extract would be helpful. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGwhE4S9HxQb37XmcRAjoMAJ9Mu4Jh7u/C7I4x1MKb8LAomTKTmgCePr1X EN+94aJ88cRvYWBhnYBKVEA= =pj+b -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba + external drives
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/14/07 14:40, koffiejunkie wrote: Hi guys, I have a strange problem. I use an external IDE/Firewire enclosure on my notebook. This works 100%, is solid as a rock and performs very very well. It works with USB2 too, reliably, just slower. I have a Mac Mini at home, so I have some samba shares on the external drive. The Mac can acess them fine (OS X 10.4), but when I copy large a file from the Mac to one of the shares on the external drive, it copies a bit and then fails saying something to the effect that the share is not accessible. Looking back at the notebook, syslog gives me the kind of errors you get when unplugging a disc without unmounting it. So my first thought was that either the disc or the enclosure was going bad. So I ran an fsck on the disc, which came out fine. Copying huge files to it directly from the notebook works fine as well. So it seems to be fine. Then I remembered I had a similar problem at a client copying from Windows to a samba server on an external (USB2) drive. Different machines, different drives, different distro (SUSE 9.2 or 10.0 at the time). I have since tried various distros on my notebook (extra partition), and I always get the same result, so it seems to be a persisten samba issue. Has anyone else seen this? But samba works well when transferring from OSX to an internal drive? Yes, but gives problems to an external. What does Google say? Various samba config options - none that makes any difference - and not much else. I've googled this now and then for the last two two years and haven't found a fix yet. What kernel are you running? Debian or home-rolled? At the moment 2.6.21 recompiled from Debian's sources (on Lenny) to exclude paravirtualization and include HPET RTC emulation, but otherwise identical. But like I said, I've seen the same issue on various distros, and I see it with the stock Debian kernels too - doesn't seem to be a specific kernel issue. A syslog extract would be helpful. My apologies, I was at work when I sent the mail - keep forgetting to do it at home. I copied a DVD ISO, and this is the error I get when it dies (on OSX): The operation cannot be completed because you do not have sufficient privileges for some of the items Which makes no sense at all since I'm only copying one file, I managed to copy 2.3GB of it (if it was 2.0GB I would have suspected the old FAT32 compatibility stuff, but clearly it's not). /var/log/syslog: Aug 14 22:57:40 theluggage kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command Aug 14 22:57:40 theluggage kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: Aug 14 22:57:40 theluggage kernel: command: Write(10): 2a 00 07 96 05 47 00 00 f8 00 Aug 14 22:57:50 theluggage kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command Aug 14 22:57:50 theluggage kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: Aug 14 22:57:50 theluggage kernel: command: Test Unit Ready: 00 00 00 00 00 00 Aug 14 22:57:50 theluggage kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: reset requested Aug 14 22:57:50 theluggage kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: generating sbp2 fetch agent reset Aug 14 22:58:00 theluggage kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command Aug 14 22:58:00 theluggage kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: Aug 14 22:58:00 theluggage kernel: command: Test Unit Ready: 00 00 I/O to offline device Aug 14 22:58:00 theluggage kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device Aug 14 22:58:00 theluggage last message repeated 83 times /var/log/samba/log.10.0.1.2: [2007/08/14 22:49:02, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1033) twoflower (10.0.1.2) connect to service EXT320 initially as user hansdp (uid=1000, gid=1000) (pid 24132) After this, the drive is no longer available, and I have to unplug it, powercycle it, and plug it back in. Copying the same file to the notebook's internal drive via samba works fine, and then copying the file from the notebook's drive to the external drive (i.e. no samba) works fine. Any ideas? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba + external drives
Copying the same file to the notebook's internal drive via samba works fine, and then copying the file from the notebook's drive to the external drive (i.e. no samba) works fine. Any ideas? Would be interested to see if sharing the drive via netatalk makes a difference. Have you tried this? Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba + external drives
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/14/07 17:14, koffiejunkie wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/14/07 14:40, koffiejunkie wrote: Hi guys, I have a strange problem. I use an external IDE/Firewire enclosure on my notebook. This works 100%, is solid as a rock and performs very very well. It works with USB2 too, reliably, just slower. [snip] The operation cannot be completed because you do not have sufficient privileges for some of the items Which makes no sense at all since I'm only copying one file, I managed to copy 2.3GB of it (if it was 2.0GB I would have suspected the old FAT32 compatibility stuff, but clearly it's not). /var/log/syslog: Aug 14 22:57:40 theluggage kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command Aug 14 22:57:40 theluggage kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: Aug 14 22:57:40 theluggage kernel: command: Write(10): 2a 00 07 96 05 47 00 00 f8 00 Aug 14 22:57:50 theluggage kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command Aug 14 22:57:50 theluggage kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: Aug 14 22:57:50 theluggage kernel: command: Test Unit Ready: 00 00 00 00 00 00 Aug 14 22:57:50 theluggage kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: reset requested Aug 14 22:57:50 theluggage kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: generating sbp2 fetch agent reset Aug 14 22:58:00 theluggage kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command Aug 14 22:58:00 theluggage kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: Aug 14 22:58:00 theluggage kernel: command: Test Unit Ready: 00 00 I/O to offline device Aug 14 22:58:00 theluggage kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device Aug 14 22:58:00 theluggage last message repeated 83 times /var/log/samba/log.10.0.1.2: [2007/08/14 22:49:02, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1033) twoflower (10.0.1.2) connect to service EXT320 initially as user hansdp (uid=1000, gid=1000) (pid 24132) After this, the drive is no longer available, and I have to unplug it, powercycle it, and plug it back in. Copying the same file to the notebook's internal drive via samba works fine, and then copying the file from the notebook's drive to the external drive (i.e. no samba) works fine. Any ideas? What if you FTP the file from the OSX box to the firewire drive on the external drive? That might narrow down the problem. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGwlpzS9HxQb37XmcRAu+PAJ48kRf4mTdelhcxH97jzy600PBjrwCgpo4J aEqUJHVgnzxo8BWZIKDEi0Q= =Q76b -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
