Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
I just realized that I have been launching X session as root, how to launch a new X session without using elevated privileges. -- Kind regards, Yudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CACo--msao5=go5kgjqbvfcbmqlkvwe1o63gcsig9emiabss...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 07:00:28PM +1000, yudi v wrote: I just realized that I have been launching X session as root, how to launch a new X session without using elevated privileges. Don't login to your shell as root, just as $user, then it's the same: startx ./tony -- http://www.tonybaldwin.me all tony, all the time! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120222151813.ga28...@deathstar.hsd1.ct.comcast.net
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
On 02/21/2012 09:05 PM, yudi v wrote:
The OP didn't, I think, specify that he wants two X sessions with the
same user.
Yes that is exactly right, I an trying to use two X sessions under one user.
You might want something like this...
In my .bashrcx()
x()
{
D=x
for i in `seq 0 4`;do if [ ! -f /tmp/.X${i}-lock ]; then D=$i;
break; fi; done
if [ ${D} = x ]; then
echo No free virtual terminal
else
if [ $# -lt 1 ];
then /usr/bin/startx -- :${D} -depth 24 -dpi 96 2 ~/.X.err
~/.X.out
else /usr/bin/startx -- :${D} -depth $1 -dpi 96 2 ~/.X.err
~/.X.out
fi;
fi
}
Modify to suit your needs.
WT
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Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
Don't login to your shell as root, just as $user, then it's the same: startx Ok I cannot launch X session from tty7, default console, as the normal user. But if I change the allowed_users value in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file from console to anybody, I can launch it from tty7. From what I understand this is a security risk to have anybody launch X, therefore left it as console. the only way I can launch a separate X session is to first log into another console first and then launch X. This works without any issue. I am guessing the default tty is signed into as root. Can someone confirm this? - Kind regards, Yudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CACo--mvjULQeVQ=8+=g+wpgdys1+z7wjy+c2h4m6b9e4gf7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
On 02/22/12 19:15, yudi v wrote: Don't login to your shell as root, just as $user, then it's the same: startx Ok I cannot launch X session from tty7, default console, as the normal user. But if I change the allowed_users value in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file from console to anybody, I can launch it from tty7. From what I understand this is a security risk to have anybody launch X, therefore left it as console. the only way I can launch a separate X session is to first log into another console first and then launch X. This works without any issue. This is what you want it to do. Normally, you log in to a terminal (probably vt1) and then you run startx. This starts X in vt7. If you then log into terminal 2 and run startx -- :1 you will get a new session in vt8. You can use ctl-alt-F7 and ctl-alt-F8 to switch between them. As I undertand it, you do not want to be in vt7 (or anything higher than vt6) when you run the startx command. Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f45e802.7020...@gmail.com
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
On 02/20/12 21:33, yudi v wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get gnome (default in tty7) and xfce (in tty1) to run at the sametime. I got as far as launching another x server session and xfce4 with the following command: startx startxfce4 -- :1 There are couple of issues I am trying to resolve: 1. when I switch back to tty7 X server session in tty1 terminates. How to fix this? The command that you are using is not starting the new xserver in tty1. It is almost certainly in tty8, the next available tty session. The :1 is display 1, not tty1. I use aliases of startx such as: startx -- :0 vt07 startx -- :1 vt08 startx -- :2 vt09 to start three separate x session on tty7, tty8 and tty9, respectively. Note that these explicitly request a tty (vt) as well as a display session. These are completely separate, started by separate users (myself, my wife and my daughter). We all have our own startup programs and configurations (in our .xinitrc files). These three sessions, and, recently, a fourth session on vt10 for testing purposes are all running simultanously. This way, a simply ctl-alt-F7|F8|F9F10 gets any of us to our own session just as we left it. 2. all the start-up applications under Gnome also start in xfce, how can I completely separate the environments. I would like to keep them as independent as possible. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f434fe4.4080...@gmail.com
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
On Ma, 21 feb 12, 15:33:15, yudi v wrote: 1. when I switch back to tty7 X server session in tty1 terminates. How to fix this? Marc already answered this. 2. all the start-up applications under Gnome also start in xfce, how can I completely separate the environments. I would like to keep them as independent as possible. Both environments look at ~/.config/autostart/ but at least Xfce (probably Gnome as well) has the possibility to configure which items should be started. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
yudi v wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get gnome (default in tty7) and xfce (in tty1) to run at the sametime. I got as far as launching another x server session and xfce4 with the following command: startx startxfce4 -- :1 There are couple of issues I am trying to resolve: 1. when I switch back to tty7 X server session in tty1 terminates. How to fix this? 2. all the start-up applications under Gnome also start in xfce, how can I completely separate the environments. I would like to keep them as independent as possible. I used to do that for a multiseat setup but I did it with gdm and adding a second server: ... snip [server-Standard] name=Standard server command=/usr/bin/X1 :0 -layout X1 -dpi 110 -isolateDevice PCI:1:0:0 vt7 flexible=true # Definition of the second X server. [server-2nd] name=2nd server command=/usr/bin/X0 :1 -layout X0 -dpi 110 -isolateDevice PCI:0:8:0 vt51 flexible=true ... Where X0 and X1 were softlinks to X. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ji066d$o0u$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:28:44AM -0600, hvw59601 wrote: yudi v wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get gnome (default in tty7) and xfce (in tty1) to run at the sametime. I got as far as launching another x server session and xfce4 with the following command: startx startxfce4 -- :1 There are couple of issues I am trying to resolve: 1. when I switch back to tty7 X server session in tty1 terminates. How to fix this? 2. all the start-up applications under Gnome also start in xfce, how can I completely separate the environments. I would like to keep them as independent as possible. I'm just curious, after looking at this thread (but haven't tried). Could one not start a first X session in one tty, then go to another (ctrol-alt-#) and login as another user and start a different X session? You know, gnu/linux being a multi-user OS and all. Isn't that kind of how a terminal server works, sort of? The OP didn't, I think, specify that he wants two X sessions with the same user. ./tony -- http://www.tonybaldwin.me all tony, all the time! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120221175409.gb3...@deathstar.hsd1.ct.comcast.net
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
* On 2012 21 Feb 11:56 -0600, Tony Baldwin wrote: I'm just curious, after looking at this thread (but haven't tried). Could one not start a first X session in one tty, then go to another (ctrol-alt-#) and login as another user and start a different X session? Yes. I've done it with KDE 3.5 and XFCE as switch user in each which will spawn a new ?DM and allow another login. The desktops can be switched by using clt-alt-# (most often 7 and 8, but does move around with some DMs such as gdm). - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120221180108.ga17...@n0nb.us
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
Tony Baldwin wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:28:44AM -0600, hvw59601 wrote: yudi v wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get gnome (default in tty7) and xfce (in tty1) to run at the sametime. I got as far as launching another x server session and xfce4 with the following command: startx startxfce4 -- :1 There are couple of issues I am trying to resolve: 1. when I switch back to tty7 X server session in tty1 terminates. How to fix this? 2. all the start-up applications under Gnome also start in xfce, how can I completely separate the environments. I would like to keep them as independent as possible. I'm just curious, after looking at this thread (but haven't tried). Could one not start a first X session in one tty, then go to another (ctrol-alt-#) and login as another user and start a different X session? You know, gnu/linux being a multi-user OS and all. Isn't that kind of how a terminal server works, sort of? The OP didn't, I think, specify that he wants two X sessions with the same user. Works like a charm: one user VT7 other user VT8. If you get rid of consolekit those numbers don't change. But how much nicer it would be if Linux would be truly multiseat: each user his own monitor/keybd/mouse. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ji0n1c$8td$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
The command that you are using is not starting the new xserver in tty1. It is almost certainly in tty8, the next available tty session. The :1 is display 1, not tty1. I use aliases of startx such as: I first log on to tty1 and then run the command: startx startxfce4 -- :1 -- Kind regards, Yudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caco--munvkcbndvjtrj1uykrisgtsy_uruqtxztjxv3w8jt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
The OP didn't, I think, specify that he wants two X sessions with the same user. Yes that is exactly right, I an trying to use two X sessions under one user. -- Kind regards, Yudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caco--mujdayacb-rjx8hez0vvwf63sntamjx9qesu9rqdns...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
On 02/21/12 09:54, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:28:44AM -0600, hvw59601 wrote: yudi v wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get gnome (default in tty7) and xfce (in tty1) to run at the sametime. I got as far as launching another x server session and xfce4 with the following command: startx startxfce4 -- :1 There are couple of issues I am trying to resolve: 1. when I switch back to tty7 X server session in tty1 terminates. How to fix this? 2. all the start-up applications under Gnome also start in xfce, how can I completely separate the environments. I would like to keep them as independent as possible. I'm just curious, after looking at this thread (but haven't tried). Could one not start a first X session in one tty, then go to another (ctrol-alt-#) and login as another user and start a different X session? You know, gnu/linux being a multi-user OS and all. Isn't that kind of how a terminal server works, sort of? The OP didn't, I think, specify that he wants two X sessions with the same user. Yes. See my earlier post. That is exactly what I do. In each of the accounts on my box startx is aliased to one of the commands that I mentioned. This starts up a new X session on the specified vt. By specifying the vt in the startx command I know that my session is always on vt7, my wife's is always vt8, and my daughter's is always on vt9. A quick ctl-alt-F7|F8|F9 gets whichever one of us is at the computer to our session, leaving the others intact with all programs running, browser tabs open, etc. Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f4454ed.1080...@gmail.com
Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
Yes. See my earlier post. That is exactly what I do. In each of the accounts on my box startx is aliased to one of the commands that I mentioned. This starts up a new X session on the specified vt. By specifying the vt in the startx command I know that my session is always on vt7, my wife's is always vt8, and my daughter's is always on vt9. A quick ctl-alt-F7|F8|F9 gets whichever one of us is at the computer to our session, leaving the others intact with all programs running, browser tabs open, etc. Ok I figured out where I was making the mistake, instead of launching X session from tty7 I was first logging in to tty1 and then launching an X session. Can you explain why it closes the session when I return back to tty7 but it will not when I launch an X session from the console in tty7. When using xfce, I cannot launch the Terminal due to an input/output error? What might be causing this? Thanks once again for posting the instructions. -- Kind regards, Yudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caco--mujfyx_sthvnl9trt-yb+rjt22hnetwtmg9jkkqjeo...@mail.gmail.com
Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.
Hi all, I am trying to get gnome (default in tty7) and xfce (in tty1) to run at the sametime. I got as far as launching another x server session and xfce4 with the following command: startx startxfce4 -- :1 There are couple of issues I am trying to resolve: 1. when I switch back to tty7 X server session in tty1 terminates. How to fix this? 2. all the start-up applications under Gnome also start in xfce, how can I completely separate the environments. I would like to keep them as independent as possible. -- Kind regards, Yudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caco--ms2zwfrzxczs4tn8wknyxh0jjjzo6rhqbyw7ykxrkn...@mail.gmail.com
