Re: Smail and spammers

1997-06-23 Thread Christoph Lameter
Upgrade to exim which has extensive spam prevention mechanisms and filters 
build in.

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:

: Is there any way I can disable spammers from using my smail server to
: distribute spam?

: From the logs it appears that someone is sending mail from a
: compuserve account that then propagates into a large batch of mails to
: address all over the world.

: The original post from compuserve and the resultong hundreds of
: outgoings all have the same ID. Is this due to BSMTP?

: If I add a 

: -bsmtp 

: to the pipe: section of the transports file will I break anything?

: Is there some way that I can restrict use of the | thingy to local
: users only? ie mail that originates on the server, as against mail
: from outside (that is compuserve)?

: Is there a resource out on the Internet that will point me in the
: right direction?

: Wot a lot of questions!

: John Foster




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Re: Smail and spammers

1997-06-23 Thread George Bonser
On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote:

 Upgrade to exim which has extensive spam prevention mechanisms and filters 
 build in.
 

I hope to install a unique system this week that uses exim to handle email
to the internet and smail handling the extensive uucp network that it
interfaces with.

I am assuming from my initial review of the documents that I need to build
a domain database of the uucp sites that I will pass mail to and then
build a director using a pipe transport to move bsmtp to smail for
transmission to the uucp sites.

My question is if anyone else has interfaced exim to a uucp setup with
multiple uucp neighbors and if they would share what they learned. My
reason for using smail and not simply piping the mail to uux is that I
want to take advantage of smail's rsmtp for sending email to some of the
uucp sites.  Smail is great for a large uucp network that is constantly
changing its connectivity and routing.  Its pathalias path file routing
table is great.

George Bonser
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Re: Smail and spammers

1997-06-23 Thread Christoph Lameter
Exim can do table lookups as you wish and its very easy compared to what
I have seen from smail. Get on the exim mailing  list:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

for details regarding how to configure exim for that purpose.

You also might also want to have a look at the exim web site

http://www.exim.org

On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, George Bonser wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote:

 Upgrade to exim which has extensive spam prevention mechanisms and filters 
 build in.
 

I hope to install a unique system this week that uses exim to handle email
to the internet and smail handling the extensive uucp network that it
interfaces with.

I am assuming from my initial review of the documents that I need to build
a domain database of the uucp sites that I will pass mail to and then
build a director using a pipe transport to move bsmtp to smail for
transmission to the uucp sites.

My question is if anyone else has interfaced exim to a uucp setup with
multiple uucp neighbors and if they would share what they learned. My
reason for using smail and not simply piping the mail to uux is that I
want to take advantage of smail's rsmtp for sending email to some of the
uucp sites.  Smail is great for a large uucp network that is constantly
changing its connectivity and routing.  Its pathalias path file routing
table is great.

George Bonser
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: Smail and spammers

1997-06-23 Thread Rick Hawkins

 Is there any way I can disable spammers from using my smail server to
 distribute spam?
 
 From the logs it appears that someone is sending mail from a
 compuserve account that then propagates into a large batch of mails to
 address all over the world.

let me preface this with:  While I am a lawyer, this is not legal
advice, and any such advice needed should come from an attorney licensed
in your state.  That said . . 

If I understand this correctly (and i haven't a clue how smail works),
this person is sending messages that use your machine to go further?
If this is anything more than routine message relay to the next machine,
I'd love to see you contact your local United States attorney to have
the spammer prosecuted for theft of computer services.  While it's not
my area of law, if memory serves, if he did any hacking to get this
access from your machine, it would be illegal.  Also, if it's any type
of make money fast, etc., mail  wire fraud prosecution is possible.  

A single prosecution begnning would probably have a significant effect
on the number of these yahoos.

Seriously, if possible,  have the spammer prosecuted.  You'll be doing a
favor to uncounted millions.  Come to mention it, if I wasn't in school
right now (specializing), i'd offer to help out pro bono.

Another possibility is civil suit for theft of services.  Even if
compuserve won't pop up name  address, the suit could be filed against
John Doe, then issue a subpena to compuserve for the information . . . 

rick


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Re: Smail and spammers

1997-06-21 Thread George Bonser

The curretn smail beta has these features and a release of a new smail
with much better security is near.  There is a bit of an argument on some
of the smail mailing lists now about how the default setup should be. As
currently proposed, the default configuration would be very strict and
likely result in the bouncing of a good bit of mail but the debian
maintainer is free to loosen some of this up.

Right now, your best shot is to run smail under inetd using hosts.allow
and hosts.deny to keep parasites at bay.



On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, John Foster wrote:

 
 Is there any way I can disable spammers from using my smail server to
 distribute spam?
 
 From the logs it appears that someone is sending mail from a
 compuserve account that then propagates into a large batch of mails to
 address all over the world.
 
 The original post from compuserve and the resultong hundreds of
 outgoings all have the same ID. Is this due to BSMTP?
 
 If I add a 
 
 -bsmtp 
 
 to the pipe: section of the transports file will I break anything?
 
 Is there some way that I can restrict use of the | thingy to local
 users only? ie mail that originates on the server, as against mail
 from outside (that is compuserve)?
 
 Is there a resource out on the Internet that will point me in the
 right direction?
 
 Wot a lot of questions!
 
 John Foster
 
 
 
 
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Smail and spammers

1997-06-20 Thread John Foster

Is there any way I can disable spammers from using my smail server to
distribute spam?

From the logs it appears that someone is sending mail from a
compuserve account that then propagates into a large batch of mails to
address all over the world.

The original post from compuserve and the resultong hundreds of
outgoings all have the same ID. Is this due to BSMTP?

If I add a 

-bsmtp 

to the pipe: section of the transports file will I break anything?

Is there some way that I can restrict use of the | thingy to local
users only? ie mail that originates on the server, as against mail
from outside (that is compuserve)?

Is there a resource out on the Internet that will point me in the
right direction?

Wot a lot of questions!

John Foster




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