Re: So many package tools, apt, dselect, dpkg, which should I choose?

2001-10-05 Thread will trillich
Yuwen Dai wrote:
 I'm new to Debian but not new to Linux.  I find there're many packages in
 Debian.  I'm confused.  In what situation should I choose one?

when you need the functionality it provides. :) many debian
packages are uber-instances of redhat packages, if that helps.

the hard part, i've found, is determining WHICH packages provide
what you're after.

on my potato, i use

apt-cache search some-term-here
dpkg -S some-fractional-filepath-here
http://packages.debian.org/package-search-term-here
mail -s 'which package does x-y-z?' \
debian-user@lists.debian.org  last-resort.whine

once you do find it,

apt-get update
apt-get install package-name-here

and you're off to the races.

and as always, see

http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html

of course. :)

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So many package tools, apt, dselect, dpkg, which should I choose?

2001-09-27 Thread Yuwen Dai

Hi, All

I'm new to Debian but not new to Linux.  I find there're many packages in 
Debian.  I'm confused.  In what situation should I choose one?


Thank you in advance.

Best regards,
Dai Yuwen

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Re: So many package tools, apt, dselect, dpkg, which should I choose?

2001-09-27 Thread David Z Maze
Yuwen Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
YD I'm new to Debian but not new to Linux.  I find there're many packages
YD in Debian.  I'm confused.  In what situation should I choose one?

dpkg: to install a .deb file you've already downloaded; to examine
information about packages already installed on the system (e.g. 'dpkg
-L packagename' to list files, 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/less' to find where a
particular file comes from).

APT: to install packages you haven't hand-downloaded; to examine
information about packages not installed on the system (e.g. 'apt-get
install xemacs21' to download and install the XEmacs text editor and
all of its dependencies, 'apt-cache show xemacs21' to get more
information about the package).  Calls dpkg to install packages once
it's downloaded them.

dselect/aptitude/...: User-friendly front-ends to the whole shebang.
They generally let you scroll through a list of packages and pick some
to install or remove, and then do the work for you.  Generally built
on top of APT and dpkg.

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-- Abra Mitchell



Re: So many package tools, apt, dselect, dpkg, which should I choose?

2001-09-27 Thread ktb
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 07:12:17AM +, Yuwen Dai wrote:
 Hi, All
 
 I'm new to Debian but not new to Linux.  I find there're many packages in 
 Debian.  I'm confused.  In what situation should I choose one?
 
 Thank you in advance.

Take a look at -
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkgtools.html

I use apt-get for installing packages off the net.  If I have a .deb
locally on my machine I install with dpkg.  
kent

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   same level of thinking we were at when we created them.
 --Albert Einstein



Re: So many package tools, apt, dselect, dpkg, which should I choose?

2001-09-27 Thread Thomas J. Hamman
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 07:12:17AM +, Yuwen Dai wrote:
 Hi, All
 
 I'm new to Debian but not new to Linux.  I find there're many packages in 
 Debian.  I'm confused.  In what situation should I choose one?

Dpkg is the program that actually installs/removes packages; the other
programs just use dpkg for you.

You would want to use dpkg directly if you already have a package
downloaded to your hard drive (or created by you), and you know it
either has no dependencies or that its dependencies are already
installed.  Then you just type dpkg -i filename to install it.  Dpkg
also provides many ways to get information on packages; look at the man
page.

Apt and dselect are two separate tools which use dpkg for you and
automatically handle dependencies.  If you try to install a package,
they will automatically also install anything the package depends on.
Ironically, most people find the command-line program--apt--more
user-friendly and easier to deal with than the (console-based) GUI prog,
dselect.  Dselect is harder to get used to, but IMO learning it is
worthwhile.

-- 
Thomas J. Hamman
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it.
-Aristotle