Re: Sony CDU31A not recognized at all!?

1996-09-09 Thread Paul Seelig
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Hi Susan!

> Have you found the FAQ (published on any Debian site in the directory
> doc/FAQ) to be inadequate?  If so, can you suggest some changes?
>
The FAQ you mention is great for a general overview regarding Debian. 
Actually i downloaded the old and the new version of the FAQ prior to
nuking my old Linux setup and read it. Not every line of it but at least
the stuff that was important to my mind. 

Right now at this moment i got my Debian system at least running with X
and PPP, so that i can at least access the net. At last! Dselect was so
nice as not to install the software after selection as described before
but i tried installation from the command line using dpkg and switching
back to dselect for choosing what i wanted to be installed. This dselect
may be a great invention technically but for easy installation by a newbie
it definitely is a nuisance! Sorry if i hurt somebody's feelings... 

The kind of FAQ i was suggesting would be supposed to cover more specific
installation topics and traps like the one i escaped with Bruce's tips
after a too long period of anger trying to get it running. You know, there
are these small details which make a debuting Debian user get stuck
already upon installation and i'd propose to cover these topics in an
"Debian-Installation.FAQ". 
   Thanks a lot, Paul *8^)
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   African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies
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   Our AMA Homepage  in  the WWW at  http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/

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Re: Sony CDU31A not recognized at all!?

1996-09-09 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Paul --

You said:
> Well, i think it's time to compose some kind of an Debian-Installation-FAQ
> just for these kind of cases. An FAQ of this kind would have saved me and
> probably others lots of time and frustration. Anybody interested in
> contributing to such an FAQ? Let's see if i can manage to maintain it and
> learn from it!

Have you found the FAQ (published on any Debian site in the directory
doc/FAQ) to be inadequate?  If so, can you suggest some changes?
(This is not meant tongue-in-cheek.  I don't know if you missed it,
or if it just didn't help.)
Susan Kleinmann



Re: Sony CDU31A not recognized at all!?

1996-09-09 Thread Paul Seelig
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> Try:
>   modprobe cdu31a cdu31a_port=0x340 cdu31a_irq=5
> 
> If you use "modconf" (the module configuration menu) use the arguments
> 
>   cdu31a_port=0x340 cdu31a_irq=5
> 
Yeah, wow! This did the trick! But why is it not documented in the help
text which is accessible at boot up of the installation disks by pressing
the key F4? It wrongly suggests to add as parameter "cdu31a=0x3XX,X" or
something like that. This even sounds rather plausible if you know this
already from other more or less broken distributions! This is definitely a
bug in the installation routine! What a pity that i lost so much time
trying to find it out...

Well, i think it's time to compose some kind of an Debian-Installation-FAQ
just for these kind of cases. An FAQ of this kind would have saved me and
probably others lots of time and frustration. Anybody interested in
contributing to such an FAQ? Let's see if i can manage to maintain it and
learn from it!

BTW, i didn't succeed installation anyway. :-( 

After my CD drive was recognized and the bad-links-fix package from
i-Connect (i received a broken Debian-1.1.5 CD from them) was installed as
described in their README i could use dselect to select my packages and
everything. (This 'dselect' is to my mind a rather awkward program and i
didn't enjoy installation with it very much...) But after completion of
all selections when i started 'Install' i just got following error
message (i wrote it down at home and went to our institute for mailing
it):
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Running dpkg -iGROEB /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386
find: /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/admin/sudo_1.4.4-2.deb: No such
file or directory
find: /tmp/Debian-1.1.6/stable/binary-i386/base/mount_2.5l-1.deb: No such
file or directory
dpkg: subprocess find returned error exit status 1
installation script returned error exit status 1.
Press RETURN to continue.
- -cut-here--

Well, i tried continuation and repeated everything various times. The
files which are not found by find are definetely there right in the place
as reported in the error message. They are just there waiting for 'find'
and this damn 'find' just chooses to ignore them for whatever reason there
is!? Can't 'find' handle symbolic links on a CD ROM?  At this point i
just had to give in. Looks like a case for i-Connect anyway...

I think this is just incredible! When i was a complete clueless newbie who
didn't even know how to pronounce UNIX or Linux and was a complete Windoze
addict one and a half year ago i managed to setup a Slackware based system
due to proper documentation in little more than a day. And up to this
moment i barely managed to install a Debian-1.1 base system since friday
evening being stuck again on monday morning... This ain't no good!

I'd really wish it to be easier for a non informatics guy like me! Maybe i
should switch to Redhat, but i like the idea behind Debian and GNU and
actually want to install it on two Linux boxes which i am maintaining at
our institute. But these frustrating experiences with my testdrive at my
private box give me something to think about...

Well, now it is almost 2:30 in the middle of the night and i am tired,
pretty desillusioned and rather frustrated about my Debian experiences so
far. I'll go home to sleep now and hope to get my Debian system up and
running some time really soon. I depend on a Linux box and i definitely
want it to be a GNU/Debian machine in any case! 
  Good night, Paul *8^)
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   Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies
   Johannes Gutenberg-University   -  Forum 6  -  55099 Mainz/Germany
   Our AMA Homepage  in  the WWW at  http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/

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Re: Sony CDU31A not recognized at all!?

1996-09-08 Thread Bruce Perens
> I choose CDU-31-A as CD drive module and tried to install it with the
> parameters "0x340,5".

Oh darn. I gave the wrong advice.

Try:

modprobe cdu31a cdu31a_port=0x340 cdu31a_irq=5

If you use "modconf" (the module configuration menu) use the arguments

cdu31a_port=0x340 cdu31a_irq=5

Thanks

Bruce



Re: Sony CDU31A not recognized at all!?

1996-09-08 Thread Paul Seelig
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On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:
> You may be giving the module the wrong argument (for that version, at
> least).  Try "modprobe cdu31 cdu31a=0x340,5" . Also, add ",PAS" to that
> if you are using the CD connector on a Pro Audio Spectrum card. 
>
Until now i tried installation maybe 8 or 9 times, maybe more (i didn't
count). Everything went fine but the cdu31a doesn't become recognized in
no way whatever i do. I tried so far:

1.) At booting of the install boot disk:

Adding parameter as "cdu31a=0x340,5", naturally without the `"' and as
i don't have a PAS i didn't pass any information about one to the
kernel. As a variation i put a few times "cdu31a=0x340,05" but this
was not very succesful either.

2.) After installation of the base system via the setup screen as offered
by the debian install:

I choose CDU-31-A as CD drive module and tried to install it with the
parameters "0x340,5". Output: "Initialisation of cdu31a failed." 
 
3.) After reboot of the system with the newly installed kernel from a
custom boot disk:

I tried installion of the module with "insmod cdu31a" but again the
only output was just "Initialisation of cdu31a failed."

In /dev there is no entry "cdu31a" to be found and trying to execute
"./MAKEDEV cdu31a" yields a "Don't know how to make /dev/cdu31a" or
something similar (I'm not at home right now to check the exact strings). 

I don't understand this by no means. I'll try the way you wrote, Bruce,
but i suspect there is a typo in your prescription? Shouldn't it better be
"modprobe cdu31a cdu31a=0x340,5"? 
 ^^^ 
I don't have a PAS and use the interface card provided by Sony. Maybe i
should tell the kernel definitely that there is no PAS at all with
something like "PAS=0"?
  Thank you, Paul *8^)
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   African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies
   Johannes Gutenberg-University   -  Forum 6  -  55099 Mainz/Germany
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Re: Sony CDU31A not recognized at all!?

1996-09-08 Thread Bruce Perens
You may be giving the module the wrong argument (for that version, at least).
Try "modprobe cdu31 cdu31a=0x340,5" . Also, add ",PAS" to that if you are using
the CD connector on a Pro Audio Spectrum card.

Thanks

Bruce



Sony CDU31A not recognized at all!?

1996-09-07 Thread Paul Seelig
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  Hi all!

Yesterday evening i started installation of Debian-1.1.5 being well aware
about the need to use the bad_links_fix_1.1.5.tgz for fixing some troubles
related with the spoiled CD-ROM which i received like a few others too.
Using the 1,44" diskimages in buzz/disks-i386/current/ i managed without
any major problem to partition my harddrive and install a base system.
BTW, this is a well designed setup procedure to my mind.
But here installation is over for me. 

My Sony CD-ROM drive CDU31A doesn't get recognized at all by the debian
kernel, whereas there never was any problem with this for one year and a
half with a Slackware-based setup. Also Win95 has no problems with this
drive. Trying to install a loadable module via insmod or the Debian
installation routines just yields a "Initialization of cdu31a failed". 
When giving the kernel the proper I/O adress and IRQ like it worked before
(0x340,5) has no impact at all. In /dev there is not even mention made of
a 'cdu31a' although there exists a 'cdu31a.o' in the place where all
modules are to be found. 

My machine is a Vesa Local Bus 486DX-33 with 20MB RAM, two harddrives and
the CDU31A on a ISA CD-ROM controller by Sony. This is my first encounter
with Debian as well as with the 2.xx generation of the Linux kernel.

I tried pretty everything to find out why the drive is not recognized. I
even read the documentation provided on the CD-ROM by I-Connect and on the
Debian WWW server. Regrettably the man pages are still not accesible with
the barebones base installation. Right now i'm checking the Debian mailing
list archives at "http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives"; but i didn't find
any hint so far...

Well, i can't proceed with the installation and i am pretty disappointed
up to this point that i'm so helpless right now. I need Linux for my
everyday work and really need to have a working system ASAP.

I'd really hope it is some dumb error of myself which prevents 
initialization of the CD drive but i just can't figure this out. Do you
need more information or is this sufficient for having an idea about what
is possibly a solution? 
  TIA, Paul *8^)
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   Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies
   Johannes Gutenberg-University   -  Forum 6  -  55099 Mainz/Germany
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