Re: Fwd: Stretch and i3-7300T

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 09/23/2017 10:22 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

On 09/23/2017 05:04 AM, Felix Natter wrote:

hi Jimmy,

I am writing you because you are running the same old(!)  Ubuntu 12.04
LTS release for which support has run out as my father's computer does.

What strategy do you have to update this?
I think the best way is to update to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" by
(supported until April 2019):

- changing "precise" to "trusty" in sources.list
- apt-get update
- apt-get upgrade
- apt-get dist-upgrade

What do you think?
(I am a Debian user, and don't know that much about Ubuntu)

Thanks and Best Regards,
Felix


Hi Felix, I run 12.04 + 14.04 + 16.04 and Stretch + Buster + Sid/Testing 
too and other systems too like Wheezy, Jessie, 17.04 and more.  Maybe 
your Father knows what I know and that is: Don't listen to the hype, 
12.04 is still supported, Ubuntu says by subscription but you can ride 
the subscription train for free if you have the sources. If he's using 
KDE 4.8.5, it's one of the best for looks and feel and most of the bugs 
have been fixed too.


I'm on list so please don't send me personal email.

Thanks,



I need to add, I don't know your experience, but my recommendation to 
both you and your Father and with the state of World Order these days 
would be to run Stretch fully updated with security in mind.  Why 
Stretch, it's going to be the system getting the most eyes on security.


Cheers!
--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Stretch - KDE Plasma 5.8.6 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda6
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Fwd: Stretch and i3-7300T

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 09/23/2017 05:04 AM, Felix Natter wrote:

hi Jimmy,

I am writing you because you are running the same old(!)  Ubuntu 12.04
LTS release for which support has run out as my father's computer does.

What strategy do you have to update this?
I think the best way is to update to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" by
(supported until April 2019):

- changing "precise" to "trusty" in sources.list
- apt-get update
- apt-get upgrade
- apt-get dist-upgrade

What do you think?
(I am a Debian user, and don't know that much about Ubuntu)

Thanks and Best Regards,
Felix


Hi Felix, I run 12.04 + 14.04 + 16.04 and Stretch + Buster + Sid/Testing 
too and other systems too like Wheezy, Jessie, 17.04 and more.  Maybe 
your Father knows what I know and that is: Don't listen to the hype, 
12.04 is still supported, Ubuntu says by subscription but you can ride 
the subscription train for free if you have the sources. If he's using 
KDE 4.8.5, it's one of the best for looks and feel and most of the bugs 
have been fixed too.


I'm on list so please don't send me personal email.

Thanks,
--
Jimmy Johnson

Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - KDE 4.13.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda1
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T PROBLEM AGAIN

[A_Man_Without_Clue]

On 09/22/2017 11:08 PM, Zoltán Herman wrote:
> Or you use netinst cd and start rescue mode... and execute shell on hdd...
> 
> 2017. szept. 22. 3:44 du. ezt írta ("Alexander V. Makartsev"
> >):
> 
> At this point it is highly unlikely this "freeze" problem is CPU
> related. There could be hardware problems like over-heating, bad memory,
> power issues, etc. This list could extend forever.
> To debug this problem you need to read syslog\journal to find what was
> last thing your system did before\after "freezing".
> You can do this by asking journald a whole log from previous boot:
>     $ sudo journalctl -b -1
> If you don't remember when that "freeze" happened, you can walk back
> through previous logs to find the one with "freeze" problem by changing
> -1 to -2, -3, etc
>     $ sudo journalctl -b -2
> 
> 
> 
> On 22.09.2017 11 :20, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> >
> > Oh no, I still got problem.
> >
> > I have installed Stretch with non-free enabled and was able to install
> > then upgraded the kernel. I got some problems first seemed like
> > something to do with power supply so I got new power supply installed
> > today but the problem is that the system freezes at some point. I
> > haven't been able to pin point what is the cause of the problem
> whether
> > it's hardware or software...
> > I will follow up but in the mean timen I wonder if there's anybody who
> > is encountering problem with Kaby Lake processor with Stretch.
> >
> >
> 

Well, I don't know journalctl doesn't give me anything...

It once again happened while ago. I was transferring the files from the
back up HDD to main HDDs, I was also running the Firefox though I wasn't
browsing actively. Firefox crashed and then thing went froze.I think
it's something to do with PcManFM though...
 I was able to switch to other console, tty2 and tried to kill the
process but did not help anything. I was also monitoring the system
usage, CPU and memory usage were pretty low.
Maybe I should try using another file manager instead.

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T PROBLEM AGAIN

[Zoltán Herman]

Or you use netinst cd and start rescue mode... and execute shell on hdd...

2017. szept. 22. 3:44 du. ezt írta ("Alexander V. Makartsev" <
avbe...@gmail.com>):

> At this point it is highly unlikely this "freeze" problem is CPU
> related. There could be hardware problems like over-heating, bad memory,
> power issues, etc. This list could extend forever.
> To debug this problem you need to read syslog\journal to find what was
> last thing your system did before\after "freezing".
> You can do this by asking journald a whole log from previous boot:
> $ sudo journalctl -b -1
> If you don't remember when that "freeze" happened, you can walk back
> through previous logs to find the one with "freeze" problem by changing
> -1 to -2, -3, etc
> $ sudo journalctl -b -2
>
>
>
> On 22.09.2017 11:20, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> >
> > Oh no, I still got problem.
> >
> > I have installed Stretch with non-free enabled and was able to install
> > then upgraded the kernel. I got some problems first seemed like
> > something to do with power supply so I got new power supply installed
> > today but the problem is that the system freezes at some point. I
> > haven't been able to pin point what is the cause of the problem whether
> > it's hardware or software...
> > I will follow up but in the mean timen I wonder if there's anybody who
> > is encountering problem with Kaby Lake processor with Stretch.
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T PROBLEM AGAIN

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

At this point it is highly unlikely this "freeze" problem is CPU
related. There could be hardware problems like over-heating, bad memory,
power issues, etc. This list could extend forever.
To debug this problem you need to read syslog\journal to find what was
last thing your system did before\after "freezing".
You can do this by asking journald a whole log from previous boot:
    $ sudo journalctl -b -1
If you don't remember when that "freeze" happened, you can walk back
through previous logs to find the one with "freeze" problem by changing
-1 to -2, -3, etc
    $ sudo journalctl -b -2



On 22.09.2017 11:20, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
>
> Oh no, I still got problem.
>
> I have installed Stretch with non-free enabled and was able to install
> then upgraded the kernel. I got some problems first seemed like
> something to do with power supply so I got new power supply installed
> today but the problem is that the system freezes at some point. I
> haven't been able to pin point what is the cause of the problem whether
> it's hardware or software...
> I will follow up but in the mean timen I wonder if there's anybody who
> is encountering problem with Kaby Lake processor with Stretch.
>
>

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T PROBLEM AGAIN

[A_Man_Without_Clue]

On 09/19/2017 10:56 PM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> 
> 
> On 09/18/2017 06:05 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>> On 09/18/2017 12:50 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/17/2017 11:50 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
 Can you provide any error messages? What makes you think 7gen CPU
 doesn't work?
 I had some troubles with kernel 4.9 too, but my CPU is 6gen and my
 problem was only with sound codec.
 For now I suggest you to make sure your mobo firmware is updated,
 install kernel image (4.12) from "stretch-backports" repo and also
 install "intel-microcode" package.

 On 17.09.2017 19:36, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Has anyone got 7th generation Kaby lake i3-7300T working with Debian?
> I tried to install Stretch but unable to get it work.
>
> I just tried Testing and now it is working but this is not what I
> exactly want. I need stability.
>
> The motherboard is ASRock H110M-HDV.
>
> Would like toknow if someone is using similar settings.
>
> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>> No error message.
>>> Just blank display manager appears.
>> If you press ctrl+alt+f2 can you get prompt?  If you can, login and apt
>> install firmware-linux* and intel-micro-code. See if that helps.
> 
> 
> Ok, now I got it working with Stretch finally.
> I had to upgrade the Kernel and of course the firmware.
> Now the display manager loads as it supposed to.
> The only thing is that it seems running rather slow, I have to see what
> might be causing slow access to HDDs.
>  Anyway, now I have something I can work with.
> 
> Thank you everybody.
> 


Oh no, I still got problem.

I have installed Stretch with non-free enabled and was able to install
then upgraded the kernel. I got some problems first seemed like
something to do with power supply so I got new power supply installed
today but the problem is that the system freezes at some point. I
haven't been able to pin point what is the cause of the problem whether
it's hardware or software...
I will follow up but in the mean timen I wonder if there's anybody who
is encountering problem with Kaby Lake processor with Stretch.

Re: firmware-linux-nonfree needed? (was Stretch and i3-7300T)

[solitone]

On 19/09/17 22:01, deloptes wrote:

what if you do
cd .../brcm/
sudo ln -s brcmfmac43602-pcie.bin brcmfmac43602-pcie.txt


On reboot I had a kernel panic. After removing that link everything 
works again. These are the messages I got:


=
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: brcmfmac :03:00.0: firmware: 
direct-loading firmware brcm/brcmfmac43602-pcie.bin
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: brcmfmac :03:00.0: firmware: 
direct-loading firmware brcm/brcmfmac43602-pcie.txt

[...]
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request 
at 9b7041bf

Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: IP: ioread32+0x29/0x30
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: PGD 266107067
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: P4D 266107067
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: PUD 0
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: Oops:  [#1] SMP
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: Modules linked in: joydev(+) hid_apple(+) 
bcm5974 iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support intel_rapl x86_pkg_temp_thermal 
intel_powerclamp coretemp kvm_intel efi_pstore kvm irqbypass 
crct10dif_pclmul crc32_pclmul applesmc input_polldev 
snd_hda_codec_cirrus snd_hda_codec_generic brcmfmac brcmutil 
ghash_clmulni_intel intel_cstate i915 cfg80211 intel_uncore lpc_ich 
snd_hda_intel pcspkr mmc_core efivars sg mfd_core mei_me intel_rapl_perf 
snd_hda_codec mei snd_hda_core thunderbolt snd_hwdep drm_kms_helper 
snd_pcm snd_timer snd shpchp drm intel_pch_thermal soundcore 
i2c_algo_bit btusb btrtl btbcm acpi_als btintel battery kfifo_buf 
bluetooth industrialio sbs ecdh_generic sbshc rfkill evdev ac button 
apple_bl video parport_pc ppdev sunrpc lp parport efivarfs ip_tables 
x_tables autofs4 ext4 crc16 jbd2 crc32c_generic
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  fscrypto ecb mbcache hid_generic usbhid 
hid sd_mod crc32c_intel ahci libahci aesni_intel aes_x86_64 crypto_simd 
cryptd glue_helper libata i2c_i801 scsi_mod xhci_pci xhci_hcd usbcore 
usb_common
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: CPU: 0 PID: 328 Comm: kworker/0:4 Not 
tainted 4.12.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 Debian 4.12.6-1~bpo9+1
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: Hardware name: Apple Inc. 
MacBookPro12,1/Mac-E43C1C25D4880AD6, BIOS MBP121.88Z.0167.B24.1702161608 
02/16/2017

Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: Workqueue: events request_firmware_work_func
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: task: 8f0124993000 task.stack: 
9b6f4114c000

Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: RIP: 0010:ioread32+0x29/0x30
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: RSP: 0018:9b6f4114fce0 EFLAGS: 00010286
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: RAX:  RBX: 8f0124134000 
RCX: 
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: RDX: 000f RSI: 0246 
RDI: 9b7041bf
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: RBP: f88f0770 R08: 8e7d4800 
R09: 0008
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: R10: 9b6f4114fcd8 R11: 0e66 
R12: 0027
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: R13:  R14: 1dc4 
R15: 8f01249120a0
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: FS:  () 
GS:8f012ec0() knlGS:
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: CS:  0010 DS:  ES:  CR0: 
80050033
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: CR2: 9b7041bf CR3: 000178809000 
CR4: 003406f0

Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: Call Trace:
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? brcmf_pcie_setup+0x1da/0xca0 [brcmfmac]
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? __vunmap+0x71/0xb0
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? brcmf_fw_request_nvram_done+0x186/0x630 
[brcmfmac]
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? brcmf_fw_request_nvram_done+0x1a1/0x630 
[brcmfmac]

Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? devres_add+0x2f/0x40
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? _request_firmware+0x3ee/0xa10
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? request_firmware_work_func+0x41/0x80
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? process_one_work+0x181/0x370
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? worker_thread+0x4d/0x3a0
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? kthread+0xfc/0x130
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? process_one_work+0x370/0x370
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? kthread_create_on_node+0x70/0x70
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? do_group_exit+0x3a/0xa0
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:  ? ret_from_fork+0x25/0x30
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: Code: 00 00 48 81 ff ff ff 03 00 77 20 48 
81 ff 00 00 01 00 76 05 0f b7 d7 ed c3 48 c7 c6 c5 1f a3 94 e8 2d ff ff 
ff b8 ff ff ff ff c3 <8b> 07 c3 0f 1f 40 00 48 81 fe ff ff 03 00 48 89 
f2 77 1f 48 81

Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: RIP: ioread32+0x29/0x30 RSP: 9b6f4114fce0
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: CR2: 9b7041bf
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: ---[ end trace 0a283c37a9dbcc15 ]---
[...]
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request 
at fffefaadfec5

Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: IP: 0xfffefaadfec5
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: PGD 17880c067
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: P4D 17880c067
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: PUD 0
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel:
Sep 20 12:14:52 alan kernel: Oops: 0010 [#2] SMP
Sep 20 

Re: firmware-linux-nonfree needed? (was Stretch and i3-7300T)

[deloptes]

solitone wrote:

> brcm/brcmfmac43602-pcie.bin is the firmware for my Broadcom BCM43602
> wireless card, contained in package firmware-brcm80211. Without it the
> wifi network adapter didn't work, so I provided it during installation,
> and then that package was automatically installed. I don't understand
> what's that brcm/brcmfmac43602-pcie.txt file, it complained about it
> also during installation, but the wifi card works nevertheless.

perhaps it is a bug

what if you do 
cd .../brcm/
sudo ln -s brcmfmac43602-pcie.bin brcmfmac43602-pcie.txt

and try reload the driver/module

Re: intel-microcode (was Stretch and i3-7300T)

[solitone]

On 19/09/17 19:02, solitone wrote:
what about intel-microcode that I've just 
installed? Can I expect some performance related benefit?


I gather that microcode updates are usually issued to fix errata in the 
CPU's design [1], and without the intel-microcode package installed an 
older version of the microcode would be loaded from BIOS/UEFI in the CPU 
at boot time [2].


[1] 
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4b4hzx/is_it_worth_installing_the_nonfree_firmware_for/d15zctc/
[2] 
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4b4hzx/is_it_worth_installing_the_nonfree_firmware_for/d15zljn/


So the point is not performance, but bug fixing, and it seems reasonable 
to install that package.

Re: firmware-linux-nonfree needed? (was Stretch and i3-7300T)

[solitone]

On 19/09/17 14:11, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 07:54:32AM +0200, solitone wrote:

On 18/09/17 07:11, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

The packages you need to install are firmware-linux* and intel-microcode.


Would firmware-linux-nonfree bring any advantage as far as performance is
concerned? I don't have it installed, and everything works fine on my
machine, but I wonder whether I should consider installing it. I've just
installed intel-microcode since I feel it might have an impact.


When in doubt, try:

  dmesg | grep -i firmware

and see if it complains about any files that it wants to load but can't.

From there, you can use packages.debian.org, or one of the IRC bots,

to track down which package contains your firmware file.


I only find something related to ACPI, which I don't understand whether 
is significant:


~$ sudo journalctl -k|grep -i firmware
Sep 17 21:14:48 alan kernel: ACPI: [Firmware Bug]: BIOS _OSI(Linux) 
query ignored
Sep 17 21:14:48 alan kernel: acpi PNP0A08:00: [Firmware Info]: MMCONFIG 
for domain  [bus 00-9b] only partially covers this bridge


And then a strange error message, it doesn't find a .txt file:

Sep 17 21:14:50 alan kernel: brcmfmac :03:00.0: firmware: 
direct-loading firmware brcm/brcmfmac43602-pcie.bin
Sep 17 21:14:50 alan kernel: brcmfmac :03:00.0: firmware: failed to 
load brcm/brcmfmac43602-pcie.txt (-2)
Sep 17 21:14:50 alan kernel: brcmfmac :03:00.0: Direct firmware load 
for brcm/brcmfmac43602-pcie.txt failed with error -2

[...]

brcm/brcmfmac43602-pcie.bin is the firmware for my Broadcom BCM43602 
wireless card, contained in package firmware-brcm80211. Without it the 
wifi network adapter didn't work, so I provided it during installation, 
and then that package was automatically installed. I don't understand 
what's that brcm/brcmfmac43602-pcie.txt file, it complained about it 
also during installation, but the wifi card works nevertheless.


So can I conclude that I wouldn't get any benefit by installing 
firmware-linux-nonfree? And what about intel-microcode that I've just 
installed? Can I expect some performance related benefit?

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T

[A_Man_Without_Clue]

On 09/18/2017 06:05 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 09/18/2017 12:50 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 09/17/2017 11:50 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>>> Can you provide any error messages? What makes you think 7gen CPU
>>> doesn't work?
>>> I had some troubles with kernel 4.9 too, but my CPU is 6gen and my
>>> problem was only with sound codec.
>>> For now I suggest you to make sure your mobo firmware is updated,
>>> install kernel image (4.12) from "stretch-backports" repo and also
>>> install "intel-microcode" package.
>>>
>>> On 17.09.2017 19:36, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
 Hi all,

 Has anyone got 7th generation Kaby lake i3-7300T working with Debian?
 I tried to install Stretch but unable to get it work.

 I just tried Testing and now it is working but this is not what I
 exactly want. I need stability.

 The motherboard is ASRock H110M-HDV.

 Would like toknow if someone is using similar settings.

 Thanks.
> 
> 
>> No error message.
>> Just blank display manager appears.
> If you press ctrl+alt+f2 can you get prompt?  If you can, login and apt
> install firmware-linux* and intel-micro-code. See if that helps.


Ok, now I got it working with Stretch finally.
I had to upgrade the Kernel and of course the firmware.
Now the display manager loads as it supposed to.
The only thing is that it seems running rather slow, I have to see what
might be causing slow access to HDDs.
 Anyway, now I have something I can work with.

Thank you everybody.

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T

[Greg Wooledge]

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 07:54:32AM +0200, solitone wrote:
> On 18/09/17 07:11, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > The packages you need to install are firmware-linux* and intel-microcode.
> 
> Would firmware-linux-nonfree bring any advantage as far as performance is
> concerned? I don't have it installed, and everything works fine on my
> machine, but I wonder whether I should consider installing it. I've just
> installed intel-microcode since I feel it might have an impact.

When in doubt, try:

 dmesg | grep -i firmware

and see if it complains about any files that it wants to load but can't.
>From there, you can use packages.debian.org, or one of the IRC bots,
to track down which package contains your firmware file.

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T

[solitone]

On 18/09/17 07:11, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

The packages you need to install are firmware-linux* and intel-microcode.


Would firmware-linux-nonfree bring any advantage as far as performance 
is concerned? I don't have it installed, and everything works fine on my 
machine, but I wonder whether I should consider installing it. I've just 
installed intel-microcode since I feel it might have an impact.

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 09/18/2017 07:17 AM, James Montgomery wrote:

On 09/17, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

On 09/17/2017 07:36 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:

Hi all,

Has anyone got 7th generation Kaby lake i3-7300T working with Debian?
I tried to install Stretch but unable to get it work.

I just tried Testing and now it is working but this is not what I
exactly want. I need stability.


Yes, I agree for day to day use stability is the best and the older the
system the more time it has to get fixed.


The motherboard is ASRock H110M-HDV.

Would like toknow if someone is using similar settings.

Thanks.


Probably a firmware problem, did you use the disk with the non-free-firmware
included?  The packages you need to install are firmware-linux* and
intel-microcode.


I would imagine prior to installing the non-free components it would be
beneficial to know which cd image was used to install testing. If it was
an official image w/o non-free firmware his success could most likely be
attributed to updated drivers in the kernel in which a backports kernel
would suffice.

If the testing netinst media did include firmware then your suggestion
to install non-free firmware should do the trick. Though it might be
neccessary to modify apt sources to include non-free.


If everything is working as it should with the non-free installer and if 
non-free firmware is needed it will be auto-installed and the sources 
added to the sources.list and has been the case for me, except while 
testing the Stretch installer where it had multi bugs filed against it.



https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/


Cheers,
--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Stretch - KDE Plasma 5.8.6 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda6
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T

[James Montgomery]

On 09/17, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 09/17/2017 07:36 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Has anyone got 7th generation Kaby lake i3-7300T working with Debian?
> > I tried to install Stretch but unable to get it work.
> > 
> > I just tried Testing and now it is working but this is not what I
> > exactly want. I need stability.
> 
> Yes, I agree for day to day use stability is the best and the older the
> system the more time it has to get fixed.
> 
> > The motherboard is ASRock H110M-HDV.
> > 
> > Would like toknow if someone is using similar settings.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> Probably a firmware problem, did you use the disk with the non-free-firmware
> included?  The packages you need to install are firmware-linux* and
> intel-microcode.
> 
I would imagine prior to installing the non-free components it would be
beneficial to know which cd image was used to install testing. If it was
an official image w/o non-free firmware his success could most likely be
attributed to updated drivers in the kernel in which a backports kernel
would suffice. 

If the testing netinst media did include firmware then your suggestion
to install non-free firmware should do the trick. Though it might be
neccessary to modify apt sources to include non-free. 
> 
> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Jimmy Johnson
> 
> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 4.8.5 - EXT4 at sda5
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Re: Stretch and i3-7300T

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 09/18/2017 12:50 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:



On 09/17/2017 11:50 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

Can you provide any error messages? What makes you think 7gen CPU
doesn't work?
I had some troubles with kernel 4.9 too, but my CPU is 6gen and my
problem was only with sound codec.
For now I suggest you to make sure your mobo firmware is updated,
install kernel image (4.12) from "stretch-backports" repo and also
install "intel-microcode" package.

On 17.09.2017 19:36, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:

Hi all,

Has anyone got 7th generation Kaby lake i3-7300T working with Debian?
I tried to install Stretch but unable to get it work.

I just tried Testing and now it is working but this is not what I
exactly want. I need stability.

The motherboard is ASRock H110M-HDV.

Would like toknow if someone is using similar settings.

Thanks.




No error message.
Just blank display manager appears.
If you press ctrl+alt+f2 can you get prompt?  If you can, login and apt 
install firmware-linux* and intel-micro-code. See if that helps.

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Re: Stretch and i3-7300T

[A_Man_Without_Clue]

On 09/17/2017 11:50 PM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
> Can you provide any error messages? What makes you think 7gen CPU
> doesn't work?
> I had some troubles with kernel 4.9 too, but my CPU is 6gen and my
> problem was only with sound codec.
> For now I suggest you to make sure your mobo firmware is updated,
> install kernel image (4.12) from "stretch-backports" repo and also
> install "intel-microcode" package.
> 
> On 17.09.2017 19:36, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Has anyone got 7th generation Kaby lake i3-7300T working with Debian?
>> I tried to install Stretch but unable to get it work.
>>
>> I just tried Testing and now it is working but this is not what I
>> exactly want. I need stability.
>>
>> The motherboard is ASRock H110M-HDV.
>>
>> Would like toknow if someone is using similar settings.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
> 

No error message.
Just blank display manager appears.

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T

[A_Man_Without_Clue]

On 09/17/2017 11:52 PM, James Montgomery wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:36 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Has anyone got 7th generation Kaby lake i3-7300T working with Debian?
>> I tried to install Stretch but unable to get it work.
> 
> What couldn’t you get to work? Were you able to run the installer
> successfully? Reason being, for many a newer kernel (>4.9 which shipped
> with Stretch) does the trick.
> 
> You can run Stretch with a newer kernel from Backports[0] with relative
> ease.
> 
> 
> - jam
> 
> [0] https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
> 
> 

What happens is that when I boot, the display manager fails to show
anything but the background. No user name, no nothing.

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 09/17/2017 07:36 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:

Hi all,

Has anyone got 7th generation Kaby lake i3-7300T working with Debian?
I tried to install Stretch but unable to get it work.

I just tried Testing and now it is working but this is not what I
exactly want. I need stability.


Yes, I agree for day to day use stability is the best and the older the 
system the more time it has to get fixed.



The motherboard is ASRock H110M-HDV.

Would like toknow if someone is using similar settings.

Thanks.


Probably a firmware problem, did you use the disk with the 
non-free-firmware included?  The packages you need to install are 
firmware-linux* and intel-microcode.



https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

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Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 4.8.5 - EXT4 at sda5
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T

[James Montgomery]

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:36 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Has anyone got 7th generation Kaby lake i3-7300T working with Debian?
> I tried to install Stretch but unable to get it work.

What couldn’t you get to work? Were you able to run the installer successfully? 
Reason being, for many a newer kernel (>4.9 which shipped with Stretch) does 
the trick.

You can run Stretch with a newer kernel from Backports[0] with relative ease.


- jam

[0] https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/

Re: Stretch and i3-7300T

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

Can you provide any error messages? What makes you think 7gen CPU
doesn't work?
I had some troubles with kernel 4.9 too, but my CPU is 6gen and my
problem was only with sound codec.
For now I suggest you to make sure your mobo firmware is updated,
install kernel image (4.12) from "stretch-backports" repo and also
install "intel-microcode" package.

On 17.09.2017 19:36, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Has anyone got 7th generation Kaby lake i3-7300T working with Debian?
> I tried to install Stretch but unable to get it work.
>
> I just tried Testing and now it is working but this is not what I
> exactly want. I need stability.
>
> The motherboard is ASRock H110M-HDV.
>
> Would like toknow if someone is using similar settings.
>
> Thanks.
>

Stretch and i3-7300T

[A_Man_Without_Clue]

Hi all,

Has anyone got 7th generation Kaby lake i3-7300T working with Debian?
I tried to install Stretch but unable to get it work.

I just tried Testing and now it is working but this is not what I
exactly want. I need stability.

The motherboard is ASRock H110M-HDV.

Would like toknow if someone is using similar settings.

Thanks.