Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described challenges)

2007-09-29 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I don't like it, but I also don't like reloading. :-)

Ah, ya puss!  Burn a backup CD and do it.  Think of all those doors
opening up for you.  You can try anything!  =[8]-)


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Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described challenges)

2007-09-29 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I don't like it, but I also don't like reloading. :-)

Ah, ya puss!  Burn a backup CD and do it.  Think of all those doors
opening up for you.  You can try anything!  =[8]-)


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Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described challenges)

2007-09-27 Thread Owen Heisler
On Wed, 2007.09.26 12:52, Mike McCarty wrote:
 Fedora I would not recommend to anyone not interested in
 eternally fiddling with the machine, broken interfaces,
 and churn. It's for people whose hobbies include fiddling
 with new installs and reloading.

 I'm not into that, either, for these large machines.
 When I finally upgrade to another release, it won't be
 FC.

 The reason _I_ installed FC was that I got an employment
 contract, and was requested to build up a machine which
 could dual boot WinXP and FC for test on multiple platforms.
 Due to inertia and general laziness, I have not moved from
 FC2, which in FC terms is REALLY ANCIENT.

 I don't like it, but I also don't like reloading. :-)

I started using Linux with FC2 (or FC3 maybe) and was just thrilled with it
(with Linux, really).  Then I got annoyed with FC's bleeding edge software and
also decided that I shouldn't have to reinstall every 6 months in order to stay
current.  That's when I started using Debian (and was thrilled all over again).
Now reinstalling is unnecessary and I can get as close to the bleeding edge as 
I want by using whichever distribution (stable, testing, or unstable).


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Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described challenges)

2007-09-27 Thread Michael Marsh
On 9/27/07, Owen Heisler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I started using Linux with FC2 (or FC3 maybe) and was just thrilled with it
 (with Linux, really).  Then I got annoyed with FC's bleeding edge software and
 also decided that I shouldn't have to reinstall every 6 months in order to 
 stay
 current.  That's when I started using Debian (and was thrilled all over 
 again).
 Now reinstalling is unnecessary and I can get as close to the bleeding edge as
 I want by using whichever distribution (stable, testing, or unstable).

I left Red Hat (pre-Fedora) because with each release they decided I
needed fewer and fewer of the programs I relied on, like my window
manager, or xlock.  With Debian, I have hardly any locally compiled
packages.  With very few exceptions, it's all just *there*.

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Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described challenges)

2007-09-26 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/26/07 11:58, Mike McCarty wrote:
 Wayne Topa wrote:
 Mike McCarty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:

 Ok, so how does one get a newer kernel, install it, and get
 all the memory available?



 That question indicates, to me at least, that you don't know as much
 about Debian as I thought you did.  That's not your fault, I 'assumed'
 to much.  My answers, as well as others I think, assumed you knew more
 than you do so were not as helpful as they might have been.  Yes, I do
 recall that you run FC but I didn't realize it had become a turn-key
 distro.  I haven't run RH since '92.
 
 I know how to do the necessary admin with FC. Debian I'm much less
 capable with. I wouldn't call FC turnkey. But it uses a completely
 different set of admin tools.

Why did you push Debian on her, when your expertise lies in FC?

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Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described challenges)

2007-09-26 Thread Mike McCarty

Ron Johnson wrote:

I know how to do the necessary admin with FC. Debian I'm much less
capable with. I wouldn't call FC turnkey. But it uses a completely
different set of admin tools.


Why did you push Debian on her, when your expertise lies in FC?


Push is a four letter word :-)

I got her a bunch of LiveCDs, and she ran them. Of them all
she liked Knoppix and Kanotix the best. Since they are both
based on Debian, that is what I suggested. One of the things
she liked best was that both of them did an excellent job
of recognizing and setting up hardware with little interaction
with the user.

Fedora I would not recommend to anyone not interested in
eternally fiddling with the machine, broken interfaces,
and churn. It's for people whose hobbies include fiddling
with new installs and reloading.

I'm not into that, either, for these large machines.
When I finally upgrade to another release, it won't be
FC.

The reason _I_ installed FC was that I got an employment
contract, and was requested to build up a machine which
could dual boot WinXP and FC for test on multiple platforms.
Due to inertia and general laziness, I have not moved from
FC2, which in FC terms is REALLY ANCIENT.

I don't like it, but I also don't like reloading. :-)

And, I don't consider myself expert at FC admin, either.

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Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described challenges)

2007-09-26 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I don't like it, but I also don't like reloading. :-)

Ah, ya puss!  Burn a backup CD and do it.  Think of all those doors
opening up for you.  You can try anything!  =[8]-)


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