Re: Subversion package for debian

2004-11-25 Thread Alan Chandler
On Thursday 25 November 2004 02:08, Micha Feigin wrote:
 At Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:08:00 +0100,

 Both cvs and subversion can handle binary files, although not very
 efficiently (although subversion claims so, I don't completely believe it).

 Its a problem to coherently store differences between such files where you
 don't understand the contents and thus can't make smart diffs, or where
 large parts of the file change to handle small changes.

 If the files don't change too much its still ok to use cvs or subversion
 (its mainly useful for handling bitmaps as part of program code).

I am running a subversion svnserve process on my work laptop, a win2000 
machine.  As a client I have tortoise svn.  I then use subversion to manage 
version control on my m$ word documents.

It was the binary diff ability that made me decide to do it that way rather 
than just keep lots of versions of the document file around.

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Re: Subversion package for debian

2004-11-25 Thread Siju George
Thankyou so much Thomas, Alexander,Micha,Mathias,Jon,Alan for your response.

Meanwhile form the Subversion site.

http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html

I got the following link

http://people.debian.org/~adconrad/

to install for Debian,

Has anyone installed from this paackage.

And also what are the configurations that I should make after
installing the Package ?

Thankyou all so much for the response :)

Good Luck

Kind Regards

Siju


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Subversion package for debian

2004-11-24 Thread Siju George
Hi all,

http://packages.debian.org/experimental/source/subversion

says that the subversion package is experimental and not stable.

Does anyone know any third party site (like dotdeb) that provides 3rd
party stable packages for subversion.

Also can I hear from people who have used Subversion on Debian whether
it is advisable to switch from CVS to Subversion in Debian and if
there are problems assosiated with it?

Thankyou so much

Good luck to all

Kind Regards

Siju


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Re: Subversion package for debian

2004-11-24 Thread Thomas Grieder
Siju George wrote:
Hi all,
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/source/subversion
says that the subversion package is experimental and not stable.
Does anyone know any third party site (like dotdeb) that provides 3rd
party stable packages for subversion.
Also can I hear from people who have used Subversion on Debian whether
it is advisable to switch from CVS to Subversion in Debian and if
there are problems assosiated with it?
I switched to servers from CVS to SVN without any problem.
Thankyou so much
Good luck to all
Kind Regards
Siju

Thomas
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Re: Subversion package for debian

2004-11-24 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041124 10:38]:

 http://packages.debian.org/experimental/source/subversion
 
 says that the subversion package is experimental and not stable.

No, it tells you, that there exists subversion packages in the
experimental branch of Debian.


 Does anyone know any third party site (like dotdeb) that provides 3rd
 party stable packages for subversion.

http://www.backports.org/package.php?search=subversion


Yours sincerely,
  Alexander


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Re: Subversion package for debian

2004-11-24 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Siju George wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 http://packages.debian.org/experimental/source/subversion
 
 says that the subversion package is experimental and not stable.
 

You are looking at the version in experimental so of course its labled as 
experimental ;-)

On the other hand, the version in unstable is the stable version of 
subversion. I believe that also the version in experimental is considered 
stable. There was an email from the maintainer some time ago that the 
latest version is not propagating the unstable at the moment (and thus 
testing) due to the freeze process of testing, and since there are a few 
dependencies it would require compilation and testing of some other 
packages, so its held back untill the freeze (or possibly untill the 
freeze will prove to take too long, whichever comes first).

You should be safe with both the version in unstable and experimental in 
this specific case (unrelated to this, I use a few packages from 
experimental and didn't run into trouble yet).

If you are looking for packages for woody, look in backports.org there is 
a version for i386 woody, and I also found a version for powerpc woody 
under apt-get.org.

  Does anyone know any third party site (like dotdeb) that provides 
3rd  party stable packages for subversion.
 
 Also can I hear from people who have used Subversion on Debian whether
 it is advisable to switch from CVS to Subversion in Debian and if
 there are problems assosiated with it?
 
 Thankyou so much
 
 Good luck to all
 
 Kind Regards
 
 Siju
 
 
 


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Re: Subversion package for debian

2004-11-24 Thread Mathias Tauber
Hi,
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/source/subversion
says that the subversion package is experimental and not stable.
Does anyone know any third party site (like dotdeb) that provides 3rd
party stable packages for subversion.
Also can I hear from people who have used Subversion on Debian whether
it is advisable to switch from CVS to Subversion in Debian and if
there are problems assosiated with it?
I'm searching for an OpenSource DMS (document management system)
and heard about subversion.
I just want to ask, if somebody is experienced with this? The
features of subversion seem to be great, but I don't know if
it makes sense to use this for managing office and binary files.
Greetings
Mathias
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Re: Subversion package for debian

2004-11-24 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:08:00 +0100, Mathias Tauber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
  http://packages.debian.org/experimental/source/subversion
 
  says that the subversion package is experimental and not stable.
 
  Does anyone know any third party site (like dotdeb) that provides 3rd
  party stable packages for subversion.
 
  Also can I hear from people who have used Subversion on Debian whether
  it is advisable to switch from CVS to Subversion in Debian and if
  there are problems assosiated with it?
 
 I'm searching for an OpenSource DMS (document management system)
 and heard about subversion.
 
 I just want to ask, if somebody is experienced with this? The
 features of subversion seem to be great, but I don't know if
 it makes sense to use this for managing office and binary files.

Unless I'm mistaken, no generic DMS (or VMS) can sensibly support a
diff operation for binary files (i.e., displaying differences to the
user), with the exception of user-configured diff for specific file
formats I suppose.

The only thing I can think of then that would be a disadvantage for
predominantly binary files would be the efficiency of the diffing
algorithm. Subversion uses a binary difference algorithm which should
be perfectly fine for your needs:

 Efficient handling of binary files
 Subversion is equally efficient on binary as on text files,
because it uses a binary diffing algorithm to transmit and store
successive revisions.
 (subversion.tigris.org)

Is there some other functionality you think would be impaired for binary files?

I'd also consider what development model you are to be employing for
your files. You may decide that monotone, arch or darcs may be more
useful.

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Re: Subversion package for debian

2004-11-24 Thread Micha Feigin
At Wed, 24 Nov 2004 16:08:00 +0100,
Mathias Tauber wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
  http://packages.debian.org/experimental/source/subversion
  
  says that the subversion package is experimental and not stable.
  
  Does anyone know any third party site (like dotdeb) that provides 3rd
  party stable packages for subversion.
  
  Also can I hear from people who have used Subversion on Debian whether
  it is advisable to switch from CVS to Subversion in Debian and if
  there are problems assosiated with it?
 
 I'm searching for an OpenSource DMS (document management system)
 and heard about subversion.
 
 I just want to ask, if somebody is experienced with this? The
 features of subversion seem to be great, but I don't know if
 it makes sense to use this for managing office and binary files.
 

Both cvs and subversion can handle binary files, although not very efficiently
(although subversion claims so, I don't completely believe it).

Its a problem to coherently store differences between such files where you don't
understand the contents and thus can't make smart diffs, or where large parts of
the file change to handle small changes.

If the files don't change too much its still ok to use cvs or subversion (its
mainly useful for handling bitmaps as part of program code).

 
 Greetings
 Mathias
 
 
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