Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-09 Thread Alan Chandler
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 22:55, Maurits van Rees wrote:
...
 man apt-cache:

   DESCRIPTION

   apt-cache performs a variety of operations on APT's package
   cache. apt-cache does not manipulate the state of the system but does
   provide operations to search and generate interesting output from the
   package metadata.

 So you should be safe. You get things like this:

 $ apt-cache search dvd write
 bootcd - run your system from cd without need for disks
 bootcd-dvdplus - bootcd extension to use DVD+ media
 bootcd-hppa - bootcd extension to create images that can boot on
 parisc/hppa bootcd-i386 - bootcd extension to create images that can boot
 on i386. bootcd-ia64 - bootcd extension to create images that can boot on
 ia64 k3b - A sophisticated KDE cd burning application

You can do all of these type of searches within aptitiude, so there is no need 
to use apt-cache.  Take a little time out and read the manual (on-line in 
aptitude) and it will show you how to do these searches.

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-09 Thread Ben Bettin
When I first started using aptitude I got the impression that it was
an almost all encompassing front-end to the command-line apt.  I like
it better than the gui front-ends because you can use it remotely over
ssh.  Using aptitude makes it a bit hard sometimes though, it seems a
lot of people on these forums use apt on the command-line.  I'm sure
after a few more months of using it and learning all the ins and outs
it will make understanding apt commands easier.


On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:53:30 +, Alan Chandler
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 On Wednesday 08 December 2004 22:55, Maurits van Rees wrote:
 ...
 
 
  man apt-cache:
 
DESCRIPTION
 
apt-cache performs a variety of operations on APT's package
cache. apt-cache does not manipulate the state of the system but does
provide operations to search and generate interesting output from the
package metadata.
 
  So you should be safe. You get things like this:
 
  $ apt-cache search dvd write
  bootcd - run your system from cd without need for disks
  bootcd-dvdplus - bootcd extension to use DVD+ media
  bootcd-hppa - bootcd extension to create images that can boot on
  parisc/hppa bootcd-i386 - bootcd extension to create images that can boot
  on i386. bootcd-ia64 - bootcd extension to create images that can boot on
  ia64 k3b - A sophisticated KDE cd burning application
 
 You can do all of these type of searches within aptitiude, so there is no need
 to use apt-cache.  Take a little time out and read the manual (on-line in
 aptitude) and it will show you how to do these searches.
 
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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Rthoreau
 From: Ben Bettin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Yesterday 21:52:38

 I took everyone's advice and am giving k3b a try.  I picked up a few
 DVD+R and DVD+RW discs (my drive supports both + and - protocols).

 I installed k3b with aptitude (I'm running Sarge).  I started it up,
 and it's giving me an error/warning message which I'm not sure how 
 to fix.  It says the following:

 Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
 K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs.
 Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.

 According to aptitude I have dvd+rw-tools installed.  I checked
 /usr/bin and I see dvd+rw-format listed.  I started up K3bSetup2 and
 checked, /usr/bin is in the search path, yet it still can't find
 dvd+rw-format.  I tried added /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format to the search
 path, still no luck.
 
 I tried searching through some of the past archived post from this
 group but didn't have much luck.  I've only been receiving this list
 for a week or so, so I apologize if there is a known fix for this 
 that everyone but me knows.  :)
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions for me to get k3b full working?

 If I'm doomed and must use the console to burn cd-r, cd-rw, dvd-r, 
 and dvd-rw's, does anyone have some linkage to a nice tutorial 
 describing how to do it?

Thanks so much for your thoughts.

Ben

Looking at the bug report for K3b it looks like you have found a new 
bug, might be just how it was packaged.  
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkgdata=k3barchive=no

While I was looking up something similar, I came across some good urls 
that might be helpful to you.

http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:lwmxIKqlJjwJ:applications.linux.com/print.pl%3Fsid%3D04/11/16/1555246+growisofs+%2B+bin/cuehl=en
http://crashrecovery.org/oss-dvd/HOWTO-ossdvd.html

The first one seems to be very in depth and somewhat official, as 
other links seem to point to it.  For example the last url lists the 
first url as a resource.

As far as I know one of the uses of dvd+rw-tools that K3b employes is 
that to erase a dvd+-rw disc. To get by this problem just use the 
dvd+rw-format on the cmd line to erase the disk.  As stated early in 
this thread K3b uses growisofs, so a little cmd line should not hurt 
anyone. I must admit the dd method is very slick, but what I really 
need is something that can join two bin/cue files, or more, to fit on 
a dvd+-rw media disk, and be played in a stand alone dvd player.

Anyway you might want to file a bug report against K3b for the problem 
you encountered.

Rthoreau


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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:52:38PM -0500, Ben Bettin wrote:
 If I'm doomed and must use the console to burn cd-r, cd-rw, dvd-r, and
 dvd-rw's, does anyone have some linkage to a nice tutorial describing
 how to do it?

You probably have some how-tos in a subdirectory of
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO. Look for the CD-Writing-HOWTO. Maybe there's
some info in DVD-Playback-HOWTO as well.

Basically for CDs (I have no DVDs):

- put the files you want in a directory

- make an iso (=image) file of that directory with mkisofs. Read `man
  mkisofs'.

- Optionally try to mount the image file via loopback to test if it
  works. You usually need to be root for this to work:

mount -t iso9660 -o -ro,loop=/dev/loop0 name of isofile /cdrom

  Now you can check the contents of /cdrom to see if they are what you
  expect them to be. Do `umount /cdrom' after this.

- burn the iso file with cdrecord. See `man cdrecord' and indeed the
  CD-Writing-HOWTO.


To clear a CD-RW, use `cdrecord -blank=fast' or `cdrecord -blank=all'.

You need to set some defaults in /etc/default/cdrecord or add info to
the commandline on where cdrecord can find the actual device and how
fast it should burn.

Burning under Linux kernel 2.4 is different from kernel 2.6. Most info
could be specific for 2.4 so watch out there.


This works for me, but a graphical program like k3b is more
userfriendly and /should/ also function. So I hope you can get that to
work with some help from the list.

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread George Iordanou
 What kernel are you running? Hopefully not the 2.6.8. It's known not
 to work .
I'm using 2.6.8-1-686 kernel image with gnome 2.8 desktop environment.
I've installed k3b with apt-get, then installed the programs requested
in the error message with apt-get as well, and everything works just
fine. I've heard about the 2.6.8 kernel problem though.

Have a nice day,
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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Michal R. Hoffmann
Dnia 06-12-2004 21:40,Rodney Gordon II napisa:
 On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 15:05 -0500, Ben Bettin wrote:
 If the Nautilus creator only does the creation of data cd/dvd's, I
 need a simple way to copy cd's and dvd's.  I'd prefer not to have to
 use the console.  I would definitly prefer a method which integrates
 nicely into Gnome like the Nautilus one does.  What would you all
 suggest?
 
 K3b, though not GTK/Gnome, is perhaps the best burning program for linux
 there is. Take a look!

So many votes for k3b... Maybe somebody will help me with a small
problem - I cannot burn multisession CDRW properly - all old sessions
are shortnamed (DOS-like filenames). When I use xcdroast it's OK, new
session keeps old ones untouched. With k3b *zonk* they are all messed
up. Why?

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:43:30 +0200
George Iordanou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What kernel are you running? Hopefully not the 2.6.8. It's known not
  to work .
 I'm using 2.6.8-1-686 kernel image with gnome 2.8 desktop environment.
 I've installed k3b with apt-get, then installed the programs requested
 in the error message with apt-get as well, and everything works just
 fine. I've heard about the 2.6.8 kernel problem though.
 
 Have a nice day,
 George
 

2.6.8 have known problems with writing cd's, so I would assume it
would aslo have problems writing dvd's.

Either upgrade to 2.6.9 or downgrade to 2.6.7, and try to burn the dvd's

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Rthoreau
snip

 Rodney D. Myers wrote:

 2.6.8 have known problems with writing cd's, so I would assume it
 would aslo have problems writing dvd's.
 
 Either upgrade to 2.6.9 or downgrade to 2.6.7, and try to burn the 
 dvd's. 

Just installed K3b as a test, came up with the same bug, K3b does not 
detect dvd+rw-tools, then used dpkg --purge to purge dvd+rw-tools and 
reinstalled it, same problem.  Seems like K3b is buggy, will wait  to 
file bug report, in case first poster wants to. Kernel version 2.6.7.
:uname -a Linux Raiz-mpx 2.6.7-mpx #1 SMP Tue Aug 10 09:58:16 CDT 2004 
i686 GNU/Linux 
kernel compiled from debian source.

From K3b, Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin$ whereis dvd+rw-format
dvd+rw-format: /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format

Looks like everything else can find it except K3b. 

As stated else where, I do not thing the problem is burning the files, 
but it is erasing the disc if its a dvd+-rw with K3b, I seem to 
remember having similar problems with K3b some time ago might of been 
an early version maybe a year ago. I think I know what it was, it 
totally screwed up my /etc/fstab file, once I fixed it by hand, and 
did not let K3b setup use it again, still could not detect my cdrw 
right, even though I used the other options in K3b.

Rthoreau

 



Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Rick Friedman
Rthoreau wrote:
Just installed K3b as a test, came up with the same bug, K3b does not 
detect dvd+rw-tools, then used dpkg --purge to purge dvd+rw-tools and 
reinstalled it, same problem.  Seems like K3b is buggy, will wait  to 
file bug report, in case first poster wants to. Kernel version 2.6.7.
:uname -a Linux Raiz-mpx 2.6.7-mpx #1 SMP Tue Aug 10 09:58:16 CDT 2004 
i686 GNU/Linux 
kernel compiled from debian source.

From K3b, Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin$ whereis dvd+rw-format
dvd+rw-format: /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format
Looks like everything else can find it except K3b. 

As stated else where, I do not thing the problem is burning the files, 
but it is erasing the disc if its a dvd+-rw with K3b, I seem to 
remember having similar problems with K3b some time ago might of been 
an early version maybe a year ago. I think I know what it was, it 
totally screwed up my /etc/fstab file, once I fixed it by hand, and 
did not let K3b setup use it again, still could not detect my cdrw 
right, even though I used the other options in K3b.
Which version of K3b are you using? The other day, I installed the 
version from Sid (K3b 0.11.17). It found everything, including 
dvd+rw-format with no problem.

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Ben Bettin
My kernel shouldn't have a problem, I'm running 2.6.7.

I'm at work at the moment.  I'll submit a bug report for this when I
get back home later this evening.

I'm not sure what version of K3b I'm using.  Under the suggestions of
the users on this list I started up aptitude and installed whatever
the latest version of it was.  I'm using Testing (Sarge), standard
debian sources...nothing fancy.  I'm not sure how up-to-date
debian.org's package list is what what's actually on their sources,
but according to the site it's version 0.11.12-1 (linkage:
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=k3bsearchon=namessubword=1version=testingrelease=all)

I appreciate everyone's assistance with helping me figure this problem
out, the community never ceases to amaze me :)  Until I can get k3b
working correctly, I figure it's a good time to learn how to create
and copy cd's and dvd's from the console...then I wouldn't have to
deal with the gui's hehe.  I notice a few people have posted some tips
on this, any more you guys and gals can think of would be greatly
appreciated.

Searching through aptitude for cd and dvd brings up quite a few
packages.  Some appear to do the same thing, it's rather overwhelming.
 I tried the dd command someone mentioned earlier, I used it to try
to copy one of my DVD movies (The Clearing).  I ran dd if=/dev/cdrom
of=the_clearing.iso.  It ran for awhile then ended with some kind of
read/write error.  I think the iso was just over 700 mb in size. 
Seems like it should've been longer than that.  I deleted the iso and
tried again, same thing happened.  I'm not sure how dd works, but for
copying floppies I see people put in a size argument or something.  I
figured maybe since the command didn't specify one, dd got to the end
of the cd and then threw and error because of it?  I went ahead and
tried to burn the iso using k3b.  It burned ok, but the Dvd wouldn't
play in my tv or fiancee's computer.  The tv says there was some kind
of error, the computer (running windows media player) said that the
dvd wasn't formated to play in this region.  I can post again later
with the exact error message if you like, I can't recall what it was
right now.


On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:49:56 -0500, Rick Friedman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rthoreau wrote:
 
 
  Just installed K3b as a test, came up with the same bug, K3b does not
  detect dvd+rw-tools, then used dpkg --purge to purge dvd+rw-tools and
  reinstalled it, same problem.  Seems like K3b is buggy, will wait  to
  file bug report, in case first poster wants to. Kernel version 2.6.7.
  :uname -a Linux Raiz-mpx 2.6.7-mpx #1 SMP Tue Aug 10 09:58:16 CDT 2004
  i686 GNU/Linux
  kernel compiled from debian source.
 
  From K3b, Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
  K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin$ whereis dvd+rw-format
  dvd+rw-format: /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format
 
  Looks like everything else can find it except K3b.
 
  As stated else where, I do not thing the problem is burning the files,
  but it is erasing the disc if its a dvd+-rw with K3b, I seem to
  remember having similar problems with K3b some time ago might of been
  an early version maybe a year ago. I think I know what it was, it
  totally screwed up my /etc/fstab file, once I fixed it by hand, and
  did not let K3b setup use it again, still could not detect my cdrw
  right, even though I used the other options in K3b.
 
 Which version of K3b are you using? The other day, I installed the
 version from Sid (K3b 0.11.17). It found everything, including
 dvd+rw-format with no problem.
 
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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 02:05:31PM -0500, Ben Bettin wrote:
 Searching through aptitude for cd and dvd brings up quite a few
 packages.  Some appear to do the same thing, it's rather overwhelming.

apt-cache search some search term and some other search term
might help here. 

  I tried the dd command someone mentioned earlier, I used it to try
 to copy one of my DVD movies (The Clearing).  I ran dd if=/dev/cdrom
 of=the_clearing.iso.  It ran for awhile then ended with some kind of
 read/write error.  I think the iso was just over 700 mb in size. 
 Seems like it should've been longer than that.  I deleted the iso and
 tried again, same thing happened.  

Do you have enough space on the partition? If you have about 700 MB
free and you want to copy a dvd that is probably not enough and would
indeed result in a write error. `df -h' helps here.

You may need to use some other infile than /dev/cdrom because it is a
dvd, but I'm not sure of that. I can't read dvds on my system.

I loaded a cd. I have enough space on /opt, so I tried:

dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/opt/cdrom.iso

After a while the following appeared:

dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error
1273096+0 records in
1273096+0 records out
651825152 bytes transferred in 397,550926 seconds (1639602 bytes/sec)

I think dd just reads until it encounters an error like this. Then
that shouldn't be a problem.

I mounted the resulting iso file on a loop device as root and that
worked fine. There were md5sums of everything on the cd and they
checked out fine as well. So at least for cds dd seems okay.

 I'm not sure how dd works, but for
 copying floppies I see people put in a size argument or something.  I
 figured maybe since the command didn't specify one, dd got to the end
 of the cd and then threw and error because of it?  

I don't think so. dd will stop copying when it reaches the end of the
input stream. The count argument is only needed when your infile
doesn't have an end, e.g. with /dev/zero.


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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 12:16:54 -0600
Rthoreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 snip
 
  Rodney D. Myers wrote:
 
  2.6.8 have known problems with writing cd's, so I would assume it
  would aslo have problems writing dvd's.
  
  Either upgrade to 2.6.9 or downgrade to 2.6.7, and try to burn the 
  dvd's. 
 
 Just installed K3b as a test, came up with the same bug, K3b does not 
 detect dvd+rw-tools, then used dpkg --purge to purge dvd+rw-tools and 
 reinstalled it, same problem.  Seems like K3b is buggy, will wait  to 
 file bug report, in case first poster wants to. Kernel version 2.6.7.
 :uname -a Linux Raiz-mpx 2.6.7-mpx #1 SMP Tue Aug 10 09:58:16 CDT 2004

 i686 GNU/Linux 
 kernel compiled from debian source.
 
 From K3b, Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
 K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin$ whereis dvd+rw-format
 dvd+rw-format: /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format
 
 Looks like everything else can find it except K3b. 
 
 As stated else where, I do not thing the problem is burning the files,

 but it is erasing the disc if its a dvd+-rw with K3b, I seem to 
 remember having similar problems with K3b some time ago might of been 
 an early version maybe a year ago. I think I know what it was, it 
 totally screwed up my /etc/fstab file, once I fixed it by hand, and 
 did not let K3b setup use it again, still could not detect my cdrw 
 right, even though I used the other options in K3b.
 
 Rthoreau

When I was running Libranet, debian derivative, it was noted that
sometimes the permissions on some of the executables were not being set
correctly.

I don't have a dvd player/burner, so I'm not sure what they should be,
though someone else may be able to offer that info.

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Ben Bettin
I appreciate your taking the time to test some of it out and teach me
a few things.


On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:59:04 +0100, Maurits van Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 apt-cache search some search term and some other search term
 might help here.


In regards to apt, I've always stuck with aptitude.  I've been using
linux for 3 years now, but only for a few months with Debian (I think
i'll stick with Debian for many years, I love it).  When I installed
Debian it used aptitude, so I continued to use that program after
installation was over and I got into my system.  I read somewhere that
if you install things without using aptitude, aptitude will mess up
because it keeps track of what you install/uninstall.  So I've been
somewhat afraid of using any apt commands.  In aptitude I hit /
and typed in a regexp to search for.  After reading 'man apt-cache'
I'm assuing that the search functionality with '/' in aptitude is the
same thing?

If using the apt commands won't screw up my system I'd definitly give
them a try, but I'm still leary of it due to my inexperience with
debian and what I read when I first installed it.

 
 Do you have enough space on the partition? If you have about 700 MB
 free and you want to copy a dvd that is probably not enough and would
 indeed result in a write error. `df -h' helps here.


I'm pretty certain my partition has enough space.  I went ahead and
had debian install everything to a single partition (/), that way I
wouldn't have to worry about it.  My hard-drive that has the '/'
partition is 250gb.


 You may need to use some other infile than /dev/cdrom because it is a
 dvd, but I'm not sure of that. I can't read dvds on my system.


I'm pretty sure /dev/cdrom is ok.  I did a ls -l /dev/cdrom and
found that /dev/cdrom is a symlink to /dev/cdrom0, which is my dvd
device.  /dev/cdrom1 is my dvd-writer.  I'm not sure why, but linux
doesn't appear to differentiate the two.  It sticks the master dvd/cd
at /dev/cdrom0, and the slave at /dev/cdrom1.


 I loaded a cd. I have enough space on /opt, so I tried:

 dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/opt/cdrom.iso

 After a while the following appeared:

 dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error
 1273096+0 records in
 1273096+0 records out
 651825152 bytes transferred in 397,550926 seconds (1639602 bytes/sec)
 
 I think dd just reads until it encounters an error like this. Then
 that shouldn't be a problem.


That's the same input/output error I got.  I think I said read/write
error in my post, but that was just the effects of a bad memory :)

 
 I mounted the resulting iso file on a loop device as root and that
 worked fine. There were md5sums of everything on the cd and they
 checked out fine as well. So at least for cds dd seems okay.


I should try this and see if the mounted image from the iso looks the
same as the original dvd disk.

From what you've said, it appears my dd of the iso worked.  It was a
bit over 700 mb in size.  But, when I tried to use K3b to copy the
disk, it said the disk was too large (over 6 or 7 gb), and my
recordable disks were too small (4.something gb).  This makes me think
dd really didn't work, that the iso wasn't complete?  That would
explain why when I burned a dvd from the iso tha tit wouldn't play.

You say the cause of this is not having enough room on the partition. 
Perhaps I'm not understanding how partitions in linux work?  When I
installed Debian I had it put everything in a single partition (/), it
said this was for newbies (I did it because it sounded easier hehe). 
Wouldn't that mean that the different directories (/home, /usr, /etc,
etc) could get as big as they want, until the (/) partition hits
250gb?  Or, even though everything is technically in one partition, is
there some kind of virtual limit placed on the directories?  The place
I had dd save the iso was my home directory.

Thanks again for all your help.

Ben


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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 03:28:25PM -0500, Ben Bettin wrote:
 I appreciate your taking the time to test some of it out and teach me
 a few things.

My pleasure. Of course you use all advice from this mailing list at
your own risk. ;-)

 If using the apt commands won't screw up my system I'd definitly give
 them a try, but I'm still leary of it due to my inexperience with
 debian and what I read when I first installed it.

man apt-cache:

  DESCRIPTION

  apt-cache performs a variety of operations on APT's package
  cache. apt-cache does not manipulate the state of the system but does
  provide operations to search and generate interesting output from the
  package metadata.

So you should be safe. You get things like this:

$ apt-cache search dvd write
bootcd - run your system from cd without need for disks
bootcd-dvdplus - bootcd extension to use DVD+ media
bootcd-hppa - bootcd extension to create images that can boot on parisc/hppa
bootcd-i386 - bootcd extension to create images that can boot on i386.
bootcd-ia64 - bootcd extension to create images that can boot on ia64
k3b - A sophisticated KDE cd burning application

Only k3b is interesting here. `apt-cache show k3b' gives some info on
k3b, though you already know what it is. Vary the search terms to your
liking.

`apt-cache search dvd' gives among others:
dvd+rw-tools - DVD+-RW/R tools
dvdauthor - create DVD-Video file system
dvdbackup - Tool to rip DVD's from the command line

These may all be interesting. At least you should probably use a tool
from dvd+rw-tools instead of cdrecord. But my dvd knowledge is
limited.

 From what you've said, it appears my dd of the iso worked.  It was a
 bit over 700 mb in size.  But, when I tried to use K3b to copy the
 disk, it said the disk was too large (over 6 or 7 gb), and my
 recordable disks were too small (4.something gb).  This makes me think
 dd really didn't work, that the iso wasn't complete?  That would
 explain why when I burned a dvd from the iso tha tit wouldn't play.

Are you sure the size of the file isn't 7000 mb? Just checking the
obvious. ;-) Mistakes are easy to make. Type `ls -sh name of image
file' to be sure. If it really is 7 GB then a recordable of 4.x GB
will not quite work.

 You say the cause of this is not having enough room on the partition. 
 Perhaps I'm not understanding how partitions in linux work?  When I
 installed Debian I had it put everything in a single partition (/), it
 said this was for newbies (I did it because it sounded easier hehe). 
 Wouldn't that mean that the different directories (/home, /usr, /etc,
 etc) could get as big as they want, until the (/) partition hits
 250gb?

Correct.

 Or, even though everything is technically in one partition, is
 there some kind of virtual limit placed on the directories?  The place
 I had dd save the iso was my home directory.

If you really just have one partition of 250 GB then you should have
plenty of free space. Try `df -h' to make sure. On my system:

$ df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb2 2,4G  121M  2,3G   6% /
tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hdb1 9,1M  5,6M  3,1M  65% /boot
/dev/hdb5 2,8G  897M  2,0G  32% /var
/dev/hdb6 2,8G  2,2G  707M  76% /usr
/dev/hdb7  93M  4,1M   84M   5% /tmp
/dev/hdb8 1,1G  592M  497M  55% /home
/dev/hdc2  19G   14G  5,7G  70% /music
/dev/hdc3  48G   40G  8,1G  84% /backup

Your output is probably very different, which is fine.

If it is something like the following, without a mention of something
mounted on /home and the amount mentioned under `Avail' is let's say
more than 10G then free space isn't the problem.

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 250G  ...G  ...G  ..% /


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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-08 Thread Rthoreau
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 Which version of K3b are you using? The other day, I installed the 
 version from Sid (K3b 0.11.17). It found everything, including 
 dvd+rw-format with no problem.

The version I tested this with is with Sarge, K3b 0.11.12 Using KDE 
3.2.3 which is supposed to be the stable version. If .x.x.17 is more 
stable then maybe they need to upload it into testing, aka Sarge.

I only use three KDE programs, Konqueror, Kmail, now K3b. My window 
manager is xfce4. I like Konqueror for its file properities, its nice 
to see a man page in html, I use Kmail as its one of the best all in 
one mail apps. I just hate all the bloat, that kde and gnome have, I 
really like small window managers. Who knows maybe I will give that 
new nautilus-cd-burner a shot they say its drag n drop.

Description: CD Burning front-end for Nautilus
Lets you burn CDs and DVDs easily with GNOME, by drag-and-dropping 
files in the GNOME file manager.

Depends: dbus-1 (= 0.22), libart-2.0-2 (= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (= 
1.7.2), libaudiofile0 (= 0.2.3-4), libbonobo2-0 (= 2.8.0), 
libbonoboui2-0 (= 2.5.4), libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libeel2-2 (= 
2.8.2), libesd0 (= 0.2.29-1) | libesd-alsa0 (= 0.2.29-1), 
libgail-common (= 1.6.6), libgail17 (= 1.6.6), libgconf2-4 (= 
2.8.1), libgcrypt11, libglade2-0 (= 1:2.3.6), libglib2.0-0 (= 
2.4.7), libgnome-keyring0 (= 0.4.0), libgnome2-0 (= 2.8.0), 
libgnomecanvas2-0 (= 2.6.0), libgnomeui-0 (= 2.8.0), libgnomevfs2-0 
(= 2.8.0), libgnutls11 (= 1.0.16), libgpg-error0 (= 1.0), 
libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.4.4), libhal0 (= 0.2.93), libice6 | xlibs ( 
4.1.0), libjpeg62, libnautilus-burn0 (= 2.8.3), libnautilus2-2 (= 
2.7.1), liborbit2 (= 1:2.10.0), libpango1.0-0 (= 1.6.0), libpopt0 
(= 1.7), libsm6 | xlibs ( 4.1.0), libtasn1-2 (= 0.2.8), libx11-6 
| xlibs ( 4.1.0), libxml2 (= 2.6.11), zlib1g (= 1:1.2.1), 
mkisofs, cdrecord, nautilus

Dang thats a lot of depends, maybe I will ponder that one for a while.

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-07 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Brian Pack wrote:
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 17:53 -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:26:01 -0600, Jeremy Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 02:40:38PM -0600, Rodney Gordon II wrote:
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 15:05 -0500, Ben Bettin wrote:
What would you all suggest?
K3b, though not GTK/Gnome, is perhaps the best burning program for linux
there is. Take a look!
I second this app.  It also has the ability to disc-to-disc copy, as
well as music CDs.  I haven't tried it on a DVD burner, but I would
guess that it includes this capability as well.
Jeremy
k3b. I third that :-) I use it on a dvd -rw burner to burn both cds
and dvds (data, music, iso images etc). Very intuitive and very easy
to use.

And fourthed. It works extremely well as a DVD burner. As long as you
have the files in the VIDEO_TS folder or an ISO, it will burn videos
without a hiccup.
No command-line tools? Is k3b a frontend to something?
H
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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-07 Thread Martin Fluch

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
[...]
No command-line tools? Is k3b a frontend to something?
k3b is a front end to various commandline tools, among others: cdrecord, 
cdrado, growisofs

Cheers,
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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-07 Thread Sam Watkins
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 07:30:02AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 No command-line tools? Is k3b a frontend to something?

k3b is apparently a fronted to: cdrecord, mkisofs, cdparanoia

(apt-cache show k3b)

cdrdao is another command-line cd burner, for disc at once burning,
useful for audio.

I use these four for burning CDs.


  apt-cache search burn

turns up some more packages, maybe dvd+rw-tools, dvdbackup are useful?
I don't have a dvd burner!


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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-07 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 07:30:02AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 No command-line tools? Is k3b a frontend to something?

k3b uses the command line cdrecord tool that does the real
burning. Here is the depends list for my version of k3b:

Depends: k3blibs (= 0.11.12), kdelibs4 (= 4:3.2.3), libart-2.0-2 (=
2.3.16), libarts1 (= 1.2.3), libasound2 ( 1.0.5), libaudio2,
libaudiofile0 (= 0.2.3-4), libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libesd0 (=
0.2.29-1) | libesd-alsa0 (= 0.2.29-1), libfam0c102, libgcc1 (=
1:3.3.3-1), libglib2.0-0 (= 2.4.1), libice6 | xlibs ( 4.1.0),
libmad0 (= 0.15.1b), libogg0 (= 1.1.0), libpng12-0 (= 1.2.5.0-4),
libqt3c102-mt (= 3:3.2.3), libsm6 | xlibs ( 4.1.0), libstdc++5 (=
1:3.3.3-1), libvorbis0a (= 1.0.1), libvorbisfile3 (= 1.0.1),
libx11-6 | xlibs ( 4.1.0), libxext6 | xlibs ( 4.1.0), libxrender1,
libxt6 | xlibs ( 4.1.0), zlib1g (= 1:1.2.1), cdrecord (=
4:2.0+a18-1), cdparanoia (= 3a9.8), mkisofs (= 1.10), kdelibs-data
(= 4:3.1.4-2), kdebase-bin


To the original poster: your program may be able to clone a data
cd/dvd if you provide it with an image file yourself. No touchy-feely
GUI interface, but there you go. :) Insert the cd you want copied. On
the command line type

dd if=/dev/cdrom of=imagefile.iso

where imagefile.iso should be on a partition where you have enough
free space to store a cd image. 700 MB should usually do it. See `man
dd' for more info. Now you should be able to burn that image file to a
blank cd with your tool. If it can't handle image files, you may need
to just copy the contents of the original cd/dvd to a new folder and
burn that one.

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-07 Thread Ben Bettin
I took everyone's advice and am giving k3b a try.  I picked up a few
DVD+R and DVD+RW discs (my drive supports both + and - protocols).

I installed k3b with aptitude (I'm running Sarge).  I started it up,
and it's giving me an error/warning message which I'm not sure how to
fix.  It says the following:

Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs.
Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.

According to aptitude I have dvd+rw-tools installed.  I checked
/usr/bin and I see dvd+rw-format listed.  I started up K3bSetup2 and
checked, /usr/bin is in the search path, yet it still can't find
dvd+rw-format.  I tried added /usr/bin/dvd+rw-format to the search
path, still no luck.

I tried searching through some of the past archived post from this
group but didn't have much luck.  I've only been receiving this list
for a week or so, so I apologize if there is a known fix for this that
everyone but me knows.  :)

Does anyone have any suggestions for me to get k3b full working?

If I'm doomed and must use the console to burn cd-r, cd-rw, dvd-r, and
dvd-rw's, does anyone have some linkage to a nice tutorial describing
how to do it?

Thanks so much for your thoughts.

Ben


On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:17:09 +0100, Maurits van Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 07:30:02AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
  No command-line tools? Is k3b a frontend to something?
 
 k3b uses the command line cdrecord tool that does the real
 burning. Here is the depends list for my version of k3b:
 
 Depends: k3blibs (= 0.11.12), kdelibs4 (= 4:3.2.3), libart-2.0-2 (=
 2.3.16), libarts1 (= 1.2.3), libasound2 ( 1.0.5), libaudio2,
 libaudiofile0 (= 0.2.3-4), libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libesd0 (=
 0.2.29-1) | libesd-alsa0 (= 0.2.29-1), libfam0c102, libgcc1 (=
 1:3.3.3-1), libglib2.0-0 (= 2.4.1), libice6 | xlibs ( 4.1.0),
 libmad0 (= 0.15.1b), libogg0 (= 1.1.0), libpng12-0 (= 1.2.5.0-4),
 libqt3c102-mt (= 3:3.2.3), libsm6 | xlibs ( 4.1.0), libstdc++5 (=
 1:3.3.3-1), libvorbis0a (= 1.0.1), libvorbisfile3 (= 1.0.1),
 libx11-6 | xlibs ( 4.1.0), libxext6 | xlibs ( 4.1.0), libxrender1,
 libxt6 | xlibs ( 4.1.0), zlib1g (= 1:1.2.1), cdrecord (=
 4:2.0+a18-1), cdparanoia (= 3a9.8), mkisofs (= 1.10), kdelibs-data
 (= 4:3.1.4-2), kdebase-bin
 
 To the original poster: your program may be able to clone a data
 cd/dvd if you provide it with an image file yourself. No touchy-feely
 GUI interface, but there you go. :) Insert the cd you want copied. On
 the command line type
 
 dd if=/dev/cdrom of=imagefile.iso
 
 where imagefile.iso should be on a partition where you have enough
 free space to store a cd image. 700 MB should usually do it. See `man
 dd' for more info. Now you should be able to burn that image file to a
 blank cd with your tool. If it can't handle image files, you may need
 to just copy the contents of the original cd/dvd to a new folder and
 burn that one.
 
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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-07 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:52:38 -0500
Ben Bettin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks so much for your thoughts.
 
 Ben

What kernel are you running? Hopefully not the 2.6.8. It's known not
to work .

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Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-06 Thread Ben Bettin
Over the years one of the few things that has forced me to keep a
windows install handy was cd writing.  Recently I was finally able to
kick the M$ habit, after discovering the ease of Nautilus's data cd
creation in Gnome, but it doesn't do everything I'd like to do.

I could be wrong, but from what I can tell the built-in Nautilus cd
creator only does data cd's, you can't copy cd's with it?  I recently
purchased a dvd-writer because cd's arn't holding all of my stuff. 
Does the built-in Nautilus burner do data dvd disks?

If the Nautilus creator only does the creation of data cd/dvd's, I
need a simple way to copy cd's and dvd's.  I'd prefer not to have to
use the console.  I would definitly prefer a method which integrates
nicely into Gnome like the Nautilus one does.  What would you all
suggest?

I used Xcdroast a while back, it seemed a bit shaky and was a bit of a
pain to get working.  I've browsed around on google a bit for other
options, but there seem to be soo many choices and I'd rather find out
what you people think than try them all :)

I use Debian Testing (Sarge).

Thank you for your advice!

Ben


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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-06 Thread Rodney Gordon II
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 15:05 -0500, Ben Bettin wrote:
 If the Nautilus creator only does the creation of data cd/dvd's, I
 need a simple way to copy cd's and dvd's.  I'd prefer not to have to
 use the console.  I would definitly prefer a method which integrates
 nicely into Gnome like the Nautilus one does.  What would you all
 suggest?

K3b, though not GTK/Gnome, is perhaps the best burning program for linux
there is. Take a look!

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-06 Thread Jeremy Turner
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 02:40:38PM -0600, Rodney Gordon II wrote:
 On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 15:05 -0500, Ben Bettin wrote:
  What would you all suggest?
 
 K3b, though not GTK/Gnome, is perhaps the best burning program for linux
 there is. Take a look!

I second this app.  It also has the ability to disc-to-disc copy, as
well as music CDs.  I haven't tried it on a DVD burner, but I would
guess that it includes this capability as well.

Jeremy


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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-06 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:26:01 -0600, Jeremy Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 02:40:38PM -0600, Rodney Gordon II wrote:
  On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 15:05 -0500, Ben Bettin wrote:
   What would you all suggest?
 
  K3b, though not GTK/Gnome, is perhaps the best burning program for linux
  there is. Take a look!
 
 I second this app.  It also has the ability to disc-to-disc copy, as
 well as music CDs.  I haven't tried it on a DVD burner, but I would
 guess that it includes this capability as well.
 
 Jeremy

k3b. I third that :-) I use it on a dvd -rw burner to burn both cds
and dvds (data, music, iso images etc). Very intuitive and very easy
to use.

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Re: Suggestions for DVD/CD writing software?

2004-12-06 Thread Brian Pack
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 17:53 -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
 On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:26:01 -0600, Jeremy Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 02:40:38PM -0600, Rodney Gordon II wrote:
   On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 15:05 -0500, Ben Bettin wrote:
What would you all suggest?
  
   K3b, though not GTK/Gnome, is perhaps the best burning program for linux
   there is. Take a look!
  
  I second this app.  It also has the ability to disc-to-disc copy, as
  well as music CDs.  I haven't tried it on a DVD burner, but I would
  guess that it includes this capability as well.
  
  Jeremy
 
 k3b. I third that :-) I use it on a dvd -rw burner to burn both cds
 and dvds (data, music, iso images etc). Very intuitive and very easy
 to use.

And fourthed. It works extremely well as a DVD burner. As long as you
have the files in the VIDEO_TS folder or an ISO, it will burn videos
without a hiccup.



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