Re: Re: Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze

2012-03-01 Thread Armin Müller

Hi,
I got exactly the same Problem.
Using Debian wheezy (fresh install in Dec. 2012, so no update from 
squeeze/gnome2.x with a radeon hd 5850 Card with one Monitor.

Disable KMS = only fallback Modus , so no realy solution.
Any other Idea?


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Re: Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze

2012-03-01 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:11, Joost Kraaijeveld
j.kraaijev...@askesis.nl wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to run Debian Testing AMD64 with Gnome3 and the Radeon
 OpenSource driver, xserver-xorg-video-radeon. All are the latest
 versions, updated today (9 november 2011).

 After some time and always after clicking on an icon or something else
 on the screen my system lock up. It completely freezes, nothing works:
 no alt+F1 , ctrl+alt+del, alt-backspace, and no remote login via ssh.
 The only way to reboot is using the power button (off and than on).
 Using the reset button results in not finding the boot disk anymore. I
 can't find anything in any log file (messages, kernel, debug, daemon)

 Does anyone recognises this behaviour, i.e. is it a feature? What could
 I try to diagnose the problem? Anyone any idea as to find the cause, so
 I can file a bug against a package that could be the problem?


I can't help, but I will say I saw that a couple years ago.
Testing/unstable with Radeon, I believe it was, with either Awesome WM
or Fluxbox. I never got very far in diagnosing it, but from what I did do, it
seemed like it was an issue in Xorg (core or driver, I am not sure). If it
is like my situation, using something besides gnome 3 will not help.

At some point the problem downgraded to just locking screen and input,
it would be accessible via ssh or similar. And then after some more
updates, it went away.

With the Intel system I use now, I have had a few times of instability
with crashing or freezing X, but never complete kernel lock, and it
was not as frequent and did not last as long... not sure how
related they might be.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze

2011-11-10 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 20:47 +0100, Javier Silva wrote: 
 
 After freeze you can be accessed by ssh?
 Your machine respond to ping?

No , I cannot access the machine with ssh and I cannot ping the machine.
I have tot use the on/off button to reboot the machine. Rebooting the
machine with the just the reset button does not work: the machine is
unable to find any boot disks.

The troubles started after upgrading to Gnome3 and the open source
radeon driver. 

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Re: Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze

2011-11-10 Thread Javier Silva
2011/11/10 Joost Kraaijeveld j.kraaijev...@askesis.nl:
 On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 20:47 +0100, Javier Silva wrote:

 After freeze you can be accessed by ssh?
 Your machine respond to ping?

 No , I cannot access the machine with ssh and I cannot ping the machine.
 I have tot use the on/off button to reboot the machine. Rebooting the
 machine with the just the reset button does not work: the machine is
 unable to find any boot disks.

 The troubles started after upgrading to Gnome3 and the open source
 radeon driver.


Before upgrade to Gnome3 and radeon opensource driver...

what driver you had installed?
which graphics card is installed (radeon model)?
how many monitors are installed?


does de following commands:

* disable GDM to no start -- update-rc.d -f gdm3 disable
* start a computer and login in console with a normal user
* type 'startx'

CTRL+ALT+F1 works?



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 web: www.askesis.nl





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Re: Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze

2011-11-10 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld
Hi Javier,

Thanks for responding.

On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 19:36 +0100, Javier Silva wrote: 
 2011/11/10 Joost Kraaijeveld j.kraaijev...@askesis.nl:
 Before upgrade to Gnome3 and radeon opensource driver...
 
 what driver you had installed?
The closed source driver from AMD latest version (10.10) 
 which graphics card is installed (radeon model)?
ATI Technologies Inc RV670 AGP [Radeon HD 3850] 
 how many monitors are installed?
2 monitors

 does de following commands:
 
 * disable GDM to no start -- update-rc.d -f gdm3 disable
 * start a computer and login in console with a normal user
 * type 'startx'
Is the purpose to see if the problem persist even after not loading
gnome, as to find if if it is a driver problem?

 CTRL+ALT+F1 works?
After starting x without GDM?

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web: www.askesis.nl



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Re: Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze

2011-11-10 Thread Javier Silva
2011/11/10 Joost Kraaijeveld j.kraaijev...@askesis.nl:
 Hi Javier,

 Thanks for responding.

 On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 19:36 +0100, Javier Silva wrote:
 2011/11/10 Joost Kraaijeveld j.kraaijev...@askesis.nl:
 Before upgrade to Gnome3 and radeon opensource driver...

 what driver you had installed?
 The closed source driver from AMD latest version (10.10)

closed source driver from AMD had retired from repositories!!!

open source radeon driver is xserver-xorg-video-radeon and need
firmware-linux-non-free.

the radeon driver uses KMS, notes from driver:

xserver-xorg-video-radeon (1:6.12.192-2) unstable; urgency=low

  * Starting with this version, the radeon driver enables kernel mode setting
(KMS) by default.  This comes with a framebuffer driver which enables
native resolution on the console.  KMS also allows faster VT switching
and mode changes.

Enabling KMS may break X.org drivers that are not KMS-ready, for instance
radeonhd or vesa.

In case of trouble KMS can be disabled with the 'nomodeset' kernel
command line parameter, or by editing /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf.
-

install driver and disable KMS.



 which graphics card is installed (radeon model)?
 ATI Technologies Inc RV670 AGP [Radeon HD 3850]
 how many monitors are installed?
 2 monitors

 does de following commands:

 * disable GDM to no start -- update-rc.d -f gdm3 disable
 * start a computer and login in console with a normal user
 * type 'startx'
 Is the purpose to see if the problem persist even after not loading
 gnome, as to find if if it is a driver problem?

 CTRL+ALT+F1 works?
 After starting x without GDM?

 --
 Met vriendelijke groeten,

 Joost Kraaijeveld
 Askesis B.V.
 Molukkenstraat 14
 6524NB Nijmegen
 tel: 024-3888063 / 06-51855277
 fax: 024-3608416
 web: www.askesis.nl





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Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze

2011-11-09 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld
Hi,

I am trying to run Debian Testing AMD64 with Gnome3 and the Radeon
OpenSource driver, xserver-xorg-video-radeon. All are the latest
versions, updated today (9 november 2011).

After some time and always after clicking on an icon or something else
on the screen my system lock up. It completely freezes, nothing works:
no alt+F1 , ctrl+alt+del, alt-backspace, and no remote login via ssh.
The only way to reboot is using the power button (off and than on).
Using the reset button results in not finding the boot disk anymore. I
can't find anything in any log file (messages, kernel, debug, daemon) 

Does anyone recognises this behaviour, i.e. is it a feature? What could
I try to diagnose the problem? Anyone any idea as to find the cause, so
I can file a bug against a package that could be the problem?

TIA


-- 
Met vriendelijke groeten,

Joost Kraaijeveld
Askesis B.V.
Molukkenstraat 14
6524NB Nijmegen
tel: 024-3888063 / 06-51855277
fax: 024-3608416
web: www.askesis.nl



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Re: Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze

2011-11-09 Thread Javier Silva
2011/11/9 Joost Kraaijeveld j.kraaijev...@askesis.nl:
 Hi,

 I am trying to run Debian Testing AMD64 with Gnome3 and the Radeon
 OpenSource driver, xserver-xorg-video-radeon. All are the latest
 versions, updated today (9 november 2011).

 After some time and always after clicking on an icon or something else
 on the screen my system lock up. It completely freezes, nothing works:
 no alt+F1 , ctrl+alt+del, alt-backspace, and no remote login via ssh.
 The only way to reboot is using the power button (off and than on).
 Using the reset button results in not finding the boot disk anymore. I
 can't find anything in any log file (messages, kernel, debug, daemon)

 Does anyone recognises this behaviour, i.e. is it a feature? What could
 I try to diagnose the problem? Anyone any idea as to find the cause, so
 I can file a bug against a package that could be the problem?


Init computer in recovery mode and install firmware-linux.

radeon driver need a package firmware-linux-non-free.



 TIA


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 Molukkenstraat 14
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 fax: 024-3608416
 web: www.askesis.nl



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Re: Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze

2011-11-09 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 20:29 +0100, Javier Silva wrote: 
 Init computer in recovery mode and install firmware-linux.
 
 radeon driver need a package firmware-linux-non-free.
That is installed and loaded. I have Gnome3 running as Gnome3 , not in
the fall-back mode, which I had using the proprietary driver.

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Re: Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze

2011-11-09 Thread Javier Silva
2011/11/9 Joost Kraaijeveld j.kraaijev...@askesis.nl:
 On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 20:29 +0100, Javier Silva wrote:
 Init computer in recovery mode and install firmware-linux.

 radeon driver need a package firmware-linux-non-free.
 That is installed and loaded. I have Gnome3 running as Gnome3 , not in
 the fall-back mode, which I had using the proprietary driver.

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 Met vriendelijke groeten,

 Joost Kraaijeveld
 Askesis B.V.
 Molukkenstraat 14
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 tel: 024-3888063 / 06-51855277
 fax: 024-3608416
 web: www.askesis.nl




After freeze you can be accessed by ssh?
Your machine respond to ping?


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