Re: Thanks for the great system / installation successfull report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - Original Message Subject: Re: Thanks for the great system / installation successfull report Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:00:46 +0100 From: Embrik Kaslegard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ivan Glushkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ivan Glushkov wrote: Luis Motta Campos wrote: Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le 13 mars 08 à 11:31, Luis Motta Campos a écrit : I would like to report a big success here. I recently got a HP 6710b laptop and (as usual) didn't agreed with the Windows License terms and conditions (so I can send it back and get the license money). Are you being serious about getting your money back? Are you successful in it in the UK? I don't know about the UK. I sent them back my licenses in the Netherlands, where I live now. I told them in a very formal letter that I didn't agreed about the terms and conditions, and, as I never used the licenses (it was a new computer) I got my money back. I recommend everybody to at least try. :) It's not possible that the only way to buy computers is swallowing licenses we will not use. Hey, that's a good news! did anybody in Germany succeeded to do that? I am planning to buy a new laptop, and this information is vital for me.. Cheers, Ivan Wow. This is pioneering :-) How did you do this? Why don't you just give us the copy of your letter? I guess you have found a way in using the complicated lisence ageement in our favour. I will send some letters as well. I've got 125 lisences which I don't want to use :-) Br Embrik Hemsedal I guess that was incidentally sent personally to me. Cheers, Ivan P.S.: Actually it is not pioneering at all. Google it. I read something similar in slashdot long time ago, but that was in Australia. That's the first case I hear about in EU. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH2S1UoPV3uf0E1nsRAreVAJ9MkhMxMhaSQ9GLbRq1pN5r439iZACePjHv 6TQIJyelHpEgkCxT4SS+Mo8= =pRnM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks for the great system / installation successfull report
Embrik Kaslegard wrote:
Wow. This is pioneering :-) How did you do this? Why don't you just
give us the copy of your letter? I guess you have found a way in
using the complicated lisence ageement in our favour. I will send
some letters as well. I've got 125 lisences which I don't want to
use :-)
Ivan Glushkov wrote:
P.S.: Actually it is not pioneering at all. Google it. I read
something similar in slashdot long time ago, but that was in
Australia. That's the first case I hear about in EU.
Ivan is right, that's nothing difficult. I got my money back from the
shop. Just wrote them explaining them that I disagreed with the terms
and conditions (I disagree with the terms and conditions) and asked my
money back. I've (of course) sent them the license labels with letter.
:/ I don't understand why all this excitement. Nothing special.
Try it, and insist. Here, nobody can be forced to buy things one doesn't
want (that works with washing machine soap and cloths softener, should
work with software too).
Best luck.
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Re: Thanks for the great system / installation successfull report
Ivan Glushkov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - Original Message Subject: Re: Thanks for the great system / installation successfull report Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:00:46 +0100 From: Embrik Kaslegard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ivan Glushkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ivan Glushkov wrote: Luis Motta Campos wrote: Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le 13 mars 08 à 11:31, Luis Motta Campos a écrit : I would like to report a big success here. I recently got a HP 6710b laptop and (as usual) didn't agreed with the Windows License terms and conditions (so I can send it back and get the license money). Are you being serious about getting your money back? Are you successful in it in the UK? I don't know about the UK. I sent them back my licenses in the Netherlands, where I live now. I told them in a very formal letter that I didn't agreed about the terms and conditions, and, as I never used the licenses (it was a new computer) I got my money back. I recommend everybody to at least try. :) It's not possible that the only way to buy computers is swallowing licenses we will not use. Hey, that's a good news! did anybody in Germany succeeded to do that? I am planning to buy a new laptop, and this information is vital for me.. Cheers, Ivan Wow. This is pioneering :-) How did you do this? Why don't you just give us the copy of your letter? I guess you have found a way in using the complicated lisence ageement in our favour. I will send some letters as well. I've got 125 lisences which I don't want to use :-) Br Embrik Hemsedal I guess that was incidentally sent personally to me. Cheers, Ivan P.S.: Actually it is not pioneering at all. Google it. I read something similar in slashdot long time ago, but that was in Australia. That's the first case I hear about in EU. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH2S1UoPV3uf0E1nsRAreVAJ9MkhMxMhaSQ9GLbRq1pN5r439iZACePjHv 6TQIJyelHpEgkCxT4SS+Mo8= =pRnM -END PGP SIGNATURE- While I don't know of anybody personally in the USA who has done this, I do personally know of a Dutch who did it: http://blog.danieldk.org/ -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks for the great system / installation successfull report
On 3/13/08, Luis Motta Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try it, and insist. Here, nobody can be forced to buy things one doesn't want (that works with washing machine soap and cloths softener, should work with software too). Great idea. But it'll only work as long as washing machine powder people don't come up with end-user licenses for their stuff. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks for the great system / installation successfull report
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 02:34:12PM +0100, Ivan Glushkov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - Original Message Subject: Re: Thanks for the great system / installation successfull report Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:00:46 +0100 From: Embrik Kaslegard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ivan Glushkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ivan Glushkov wrote: Luis Motta Campos wrote: Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le 13 mars 08 à 11:31, Luis Motta Campos a écrit : I would like to report a big success here. I recently got a HP 6710b laptop and (as usual) didn't agreed with the Windows License terms and conditions (so I can send it back and get the license money). Are you being serious about getting your money back? Are you successful in it in the UK? I don't know about the UK. I sent them back my licenses in the Netherlands, where I live now. I told them in a very formal letter that I didn't agreed about the terms and conditions, and, as I never used the licenses (it was a new computer) I got my money back. I recommend everybody to at least try. :) It's not possible that the only way to buy computers is swallowing licenses we will not use. Hey, that's a good news! did anybody in Germany succeeded to do that? I am planning to buy a new laptop, and this information is vital for me.. Cheers, Ivan Wow. This is pioneering :-) How did you do this? Why don't you just give us the copy of your letter? I guess you have found a way in using the complicated lisence ageement in our favour. I will send some letters as well. I've got 125 lisences which I don't want to use :-) Br Embrik Hemsedal I guess that was incidentally sent personally to me. Cheers, Ivan P.S.: Actually it is not pioneering at all. Google it. I read something similar in slashdot long time ago, but that was in Australia. That's the first case I hear about in EU. There was a fellow in New York by the name of Adam Kosmin who set up a website 'windowsrefund.net' in 1992, now called 'windowsrefund.info' documenting some of these things. cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___|
