Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:47:01 -0700
Patrick Bartek  wrote:

Hello Patrick,

>I installed Claws-Mail and only the "Fancy" plugin.  It works, sort
>of:  Format HTML correctly, but doesn't show images.  Config problem?
>Don't know.  Yet.

Yes.  Even if the "Load images" option is set to yes, there are times
when they still won't get displayed unless you also set "enable remote
content".  If you don't want to do that on a permanent basis (via the
Fancy plugin configuration menu item), it can be done on a per mail
basis by clicking on the tools icon at the bottom of the display area
and selecting "enable remote content" there.

>Sylpheed only has one plugin.  And it wasn't what I needed.  CM plugin
>don't show up in Sylpheed, but I haven't really tried finding out why
>or even if they are compatible.

Since the divergence (some years ago now), I have no idea whether the
plugin i/f's are compatible.

>Gotta finish reading the f'ing manuals first. ;-)

"Manuals?  We don't need no stinkin' manuals!"   :-)

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 23:36:53 +0200
Siard  wrote:

Hello Siard,

>AFAIK, in general, the older one gets, the less important technical
>aspects become w.r.t. the choices one makes, and the more important
>the extent gets to which one can identify himself with the makers/
>manufacturers/developers.

Whilst I agree that the manufacturer's/developer's (etc.) philosophy
starts to get more important as one gets older (I'm 52 myself), if the
technical aspects don't fit my requirements the project would still be a
non starter.  For me.

Like I said;  Each to their own.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:36:25 -0700,Alan Ianson 
wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:47:01 -0700
> Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:21:54 +0100
> > Brad Rogers  wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:07:01 -0700
> > > Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello Patrick,
> > > 
> > > >Sylpheed accepts plugins, too.  To what extent I don't know.
> > > >Haven't gotten that far in the manual.  Since Claws is a fork,
> > > >maybe, they are similar.
> > > 
> > > Look 'n' feel is similar, but one of the reasons for the split was
> > > the ever increasing difficulty of merging Claws code into a new
> > > release of the Sylpheed original.  It shouldn't be difficult to
> > > migrate.
> > 
> > I installed Claws-Mail and only the "Fancy" plugin.  It works, sort
> > of:  Format HTML correctly, but doesn't show images.  Config
> > problem? Don't know.  Yet.
> 
> I think so. I also use claws mail with the fancy plugin and it
> displays images fine here. As I recall I spent quite a while in the
> config till I got happy with everything though.. :)

It was a config setting.  Images were set NOT to show.  Changed it.
Also, "ticks" for turning on javascript, java, etc.  Not touching those
until I read the manual.  Don't know exactly how they will work in the
reader.

> I also use the tray icon plugin so I can minimize claws to the system
> tray and see when new mail arrives.

I don't have either Claws or Slypheed set to check for mail
automatically. I do it manually 2 or 3 times a day.  Prefer it that way.

Thanks for the info.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Alan Ianson
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:47:01 -0700
Patrick Bartek  wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:21:54 +0100
> Brad Rogers  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:07:01 -0700
> > Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Patrick,
> > 
> > >Sylpheed accepts plugins, too.  To what extent I don't know.
> > >Haven't gotten that far in the manual.  Since Claws is a fork,
> > >maybe, they are similar.
> > 
> > Look 'n' feel is similar, but one of the reasons for the split was
> > the ever increasing difficulty of merging Claws code into a new
> > release of the Sylpheed original.  It shouldn't be difficult to
> > migrate.
> 
> I installed Claws-Mail and only the "Fancy" plugin.  It works, sort
> of:  Format HTML correctly, but doesn't show images.  Config problem?
> Don't know.  Yet.

I think so. I also use claws mail with the fancy plugin and it displays
images fine here. As I recall I spent quite a while in the config till
I got happy with everything though.. :)

I also use the tray icon plugin so I can minimize claws to the system
tray and see when new mail arrives.


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:08:16 -0400
Frank McCormick  wrote:

> On 04/29/2013 10:10 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:41:50 -0400
> > Frank McCormick  wrote:
> >
> >> On 04/28/2013 09:41 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> >>> [snip]
> >>> I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself,
> >>> instead of me having to switch to a different workspace where
> >>> google-chrome is running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or
> >>> similar do that?  I've never used it, so I don't know.
> >>
> >>
> >> That's one of the main reasons I switched from Sylpheed to
> >> Thunderbird. It's handling of html is built-in. A second reason
> >> was I found Sylpheed's IMAP-handling a little flakey. YMMV.
> >
> > Flakey in what way?  So far, I haven't noted anything unusual with
> > Sylpheed.
> 
> As I recall (it's been a year or two since I switched) Sylpheed
> was timing out on one or two IMAP connections...waiting for the 60
> sec timeout, then rebuilding the IMAP connection, at which point
> everything would be fine...until the next time when it would timeout
> again..etc etc. I spent a lot of time configuring and reconfiguring,
> Googline the problem etc. Thundebird never seems to have the problem.

Haven't noted any "time outs" here.  Maybe, it was bug that's been
fixed since last used it or the time out has been turned off by
default.  Don't know.  But I'll keep an eye out.

>As far as plugins, CLAWS is the definite winner. Sylpheed has very 
> few (if any).

Sylpheed only has one, as far as I can find.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:21:54 +0100
Brad Rogers  wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:07:01 -0700
> Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> 
> Hello Patrick,
> 
> >Sylpheed accepts plugins, too.  To what extent I don't know.
> >Haven't gotten that far in the manual.  Since Claws is a fork, maybe,
> >they are similar.
> 
> Look 'n' feel is similar, but one of the reasons for the split was the
> ever increasing difficulty of merging Claws code into a new release of
> the Sylpheed original.  It shouldn't be difficult to migrate.

I installed Claws-Mail and only the "Fancy" plugin.  It works, sort
of:  Format HTML correctly, but doesn't show images.  Config problem?
Don't know.  Yet.

> From what I see at their respective web sites, CM has more plugins
> available for it that Sylpheed has.

Sylpheed only has one plugin.  And it wasn't what I needed.  CM plugin
don't show up in Sylpheed, but I haven't really tried finding out why
or even if they are compatible.

Gotta finish reading the f'ing manuals first. ;-)

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Siard
Brad Rogers:
> Siard:
> > But that horrible logo just about put the lid on it.  It was a
> > picture of a bird's claw.  Then I realized: I'm not of their kind.
> > Back to Sylpheed!
> 
> Each to their own, of course.  I don't care about logos, etc.  If the
> program does what I want, then it's fine by me.

AFAIK, in general, the older one gets, the less important technical
aspects become w.r.t. the choices one makes, and the more important
the extent gets to which one can identify himself with the makers/
manufacturers/developers.

- Siard (male, 62)


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 19:41:17 +0200
Siard  wrote:

Hello Siard,

>Using Sylpheed, I once tried Claws.  For messages marked with a color
>in Sylpheed, the colors got lost.  It had a couple of extra bells and

IDK why that happened.  I never used colouring in Sylpheed, so can't
even hazard guess for the reason.

>whistles I didn't need and that I found just irritating.  But that
>horrible logo just about put the lid on it.  It was a picture of a
>bird's claw.  Then I realized: I'm not of their kind.  Back to Sylpheed!

Each to their own, of course.  I don't care about logos, etc.  If the
program does what I want, then it's fine by me.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Siard
Brad Rogers:
> Patrick Bartek:
> > Sylpheed accepts plugins, too.  To what extent I don't know.
> > Haven't gotten that far in the manual.  Since Claws is a fork,
> > maybe, they are similar.
> 
> Look 'n' feel is similar, but one of the reasons for the split was the
> ever increasing difficulty of merging Claws code into a new release of
> the Sylpheed original.  It shouldn't be difficult to migrate.
> 
> From what I see at their respective web sites, CM has more plugins
> available for it that Sylpheed has.

Using Sylpheed, I once tried Claws.  For messages marked with a color
in Sylpheed, the colors got lost.  It had a couple of extra bells and
whistles I didn't need and that I found just irritating.  But that
horrible logo just about put the lid on it.  It was a picture of a
bird's claw.  Then I realized: I'm not of their kind.  Back to Sylpheed!


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Frank McCormick

On 04/29/2013 10:10 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:41:50 -0400
Frank McCormick  wrote:


On 04/28/2013 09:41 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:



[snip]
I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself,
instead of me having to switch to a different workspace where
google-chrome is running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or
similar do that?  I've never used it, so I don't know.



That's one of the main reasons I switched from Sylpheed to
Thunderbird. It's handling of html is built-in. A second reason was I
found Sylpheed's IMAP-handling a little flakey. YMMV.


Flakey in what way?  So far, I haven't noted anything unusual with
Sylpheed.


   As I recall (it's been a year or two since I switched) Sylpheed was 
timing out on one or two IMAP connections...waiting for the 60 sec 
timeout, then rebuilding the IMAP connection, at which point everything 
would be fine...until the next time when it would timeout again..etc 
etc. I spent a lot of time configuring and reconfiguring, Googline the 
problem etc. Thundebird never seems to have the problem.


  As far as plugins, CLAWS is the definite winner. Sylpheed has very 
few (if any).


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:07:01 -0700
Patrick Bartek  wrote:

Hello Patrick,

>Sylpheed accepts plugins, too.  To what extent I don't know.
>Haven't gotten that far in the manual.  Since Claws is a fork, maybe,
>they are similar.

Look 'n' feel is similar, but one of the reasons for the split was the
ever increasing difficulty of merging Claws code into a new release of
the Sylpheed original.  It shouldn't be difficult to migrate.

From what I see at their respective web sites, CM has more plugins
available for it that Sylpheed has.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:41:50 -0400
Frank McCormick  wrote:

> On 04/28/2013 09:41 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

> > [snip]
> > I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself,
> > instead of me having to switch to a different workspace where
> > google-chrome is running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or
> > similar do that?  I've never used it, so I don't know.
> 
> 
>That's one of the main reasons I switched from Sylpheed to 
> Thunderbird. It's handling of html is built-in. A second reason was I 
> found Sylpheed's IMAP-handling a little flakey. YMMV.

Flakey in what way?  So far, I haven't noted anything unusual with
Sylpheed.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:45:46 +0100
Darac Marjal  wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 06:41:31PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:36:06 +0200, Siard 
> > wrote:
> > 
> [cut]
> > 
> > google-chrome '%s' works.  Don't forget the hyphen.
> > 
> > I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself,
> > instead of me having to switch to a different workspace where
> > google-chrome is running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or
> > similar do that?  I've never used it, so I don't know.
> 
> You might try switching to Claws-Mail, then. It's a fork of Sylpheed
> which offers extra features, one of which is the "Fancy" plugin.
> Enable that and you can view HTML messages directly in the viewer
> pane.

Sylpheed accepts plugins, too.  To what extent I don't know.
Haven't gotten that far in the manual.  Since Claws is a fork, maybe,
they are similar.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 06:41:31PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:36:06 +0200, Siard 
> wrote:
> 
[cut]
> 
> google-chrome '%s' works.  Don't forget the hyphen.
> 
> I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself, instead
> of me having to switch to a different workspace where google-chrome is
> running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or similar do that?  I've
> never used it, so I don't know.

You might try switching to Claws-Mail, then. It's a fork of Sylpheed
which offers extra features, one of which is the "Fancy" plugin. Enable
that and you can view HTML messages directly in the viewer pane.



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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Siard
Lisi Reisz:
> Siard:
> > Check whether you can open chrome + url from the command line like
> > this: $ chrome www.google.com
> > If this works, then  chrome '%s'  should work with the 'Open' menu
> > option mentioned above.
> 
> I type  (without the < and >) in the launcher to get
> Crome opened.

Yes, as you can see, I don't have Chrome installed myself...  ;-)


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-29 Thread Siard
Patrick Bartek wrote:
> google-chrome '%s' works.  Don't forget the hyphen.
> 
> I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself, instead
> of me having to switch to a different workspace where google-chrome is
> running all the time.

Instead of google-chrome, you could try midori, and close it after viewing.
It's a fast, light-weight browser that I find well suited for this purpose.


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Frank McCormick

On 04/28/2013 09:41 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:36:06 +0200, Siard 
wrote:


Patrick Bartek:

Siard:
[snip]


Wait a minute. In Sylpheed, html messages can be viewed with an
external browser. (Right click > Open...)


An "Open" option is not available.  And I can't find any such
option in any of the menus either.


Click the 'attachment list view' button that appears in every message
containing html.  I'll show it here, it's at the right red arrow:
http://home.kpn.nl/shiems/stuff/sylpheed.png
Then right-click the html part (left red arrow) to 'Open' or 'Open
with...'


Okay, found it.


[snip]
I have mine set to google chrome '%s'.  I also tried chrome '%s'.
No joy.Of course, I'm configuring as I learn how to use
Sylpheed.  So, that could be part of the problem.


Check whether you can open chrome + url from the command line like
this: $ chrome www.google.com
If this works, then  chrome '%s'  should work with the 'Open' menu
option mentioned above.


google-chrome '%s' works.  Don't forget the hyphen.

I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself, instead
of me having to switch to a different workspace where google-chrome is
running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or similar do that?  I've
never used it, so I don't know.



  That's one of the main reasons I switched from Sylpheed to 
Thunderbird. It's handling of html is built-in. A second reason was I 
found Sylpheed's IMAP-handling a little flakey. YMMV.





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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:36:06 +0200, Siard 
wrote:

> Patrick Bartek:
> > Siard:
> >[snip]
> > > 
> > > Wait a minute. In Sylpheed, html messages can be viewed with an
> > > external browser. (Right click > Open...)
> > 
> > An "Open" option is not available.  And I can't find any such
> > option in any of the menus either.
> 
> Click the 'attachment list view' button that appears in every message
> containing html.  I'll show it here, it's at the right red arrow:
> http://home.kpn.nl/shiems/stuff/sylpheed.png
> Then right-click the html part (left red arrow) to 'Open' or 'Open
> with...'

Okay, found it.

> > [snip]
> > I have mine set to google chrome '%s'.  I also tried chrome '%s'.
> > No joy.Of course, I'm configuring as I learn how to use
> > Sylpheed.  So, that could be part of the problem.
> 
> Check whether you can open chrome + url from the command line like
> this: $ chrome www.google.com
> If this works, then  chrome '%s'  should work with the 'Open' menu
> option mentioned above.

google-chrome '%s' works.  Don't forget the hyphen.

I just wish it could open in Sylpheed's reader window itself, instead
of me having to switch to a different workspace where google-chrome is
running all the time.  Would Thunderbird or similar do that?  I've
never used it, so I don't know.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 28 April 2013 18:36:06 Siard wrote:
> Check whether you can open chrome + url from the command line like this:
> $ chrome www.google.com
> If this works, then  chrome '%s'  should work with the 'Open' menu option
> mentioned above.

I type  (without the < and >) in the launcher to get Crome 
opened.

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Siard
Patrick Bartek:
> Siard:
> > Patrick Bartek:
> > > Frank McCormick:
> > > > Sylpheed simply strips all the extraneous codes out and
> > > > displays HTML as text. As far as I know there are no plugins which
> > > > would help it to display HTML as they are supposed to be rendered.
> > > > CLAWS which is a Sylpheed spinoff does have ways to display HTML
> > > > and is a drop-in replacement for Sylpheed. I tried it recently but
> > > > found the documentation lacking in clarity. I ended up switching
> > > > to Thunderbird.
> > > 
> > > Yes, it strips the code, shows the plain text, plus, all the image
> > > links. All of it in no particular order.  There's got to be a better
> > > option.  I'll let the list know, if I find one.
> > 
> > Wait a minute. In Sylpheed, html messages can be viewed with an
> > external browser. (Right click > Open...)
> 
> An "Open" option is not available.  And I can't find any such option in
> any of the menus either.

Click the 'attachment list view' button that appears in every message
containing html.  I'll show it here, it's at the right red arrow:
http://home.kpn.nl/shiems/stuff/sylpheed.png
Then right-click the html part (left red arrow) to 'Open' or 'Open with...'

> > This works so well that there has never been a need for an internal
> > html viewer.
> > The browser you prefer can be set in Configuration > Common
> > preferences > Details > tab External commands.
> > I have 'Web browser' set to   opera '%s' .
> 
> I have mine set to google chrome '%s'.  I also tried chrome '%s'.  No
> joy.Of course, I'm configuring as I learn how to use Sylpheed.  So,
> that could be part of the problem.

Check whether you can open chrome + url from the command line like this:
$ chrome www.google.com
If this works, then  chrome '%s'  should work with the 'Open' menu option
mentioned above.


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:17:11 +0200
Siard  wrote:

> Patrick Bartek:
> > Frank McCormick:
> > > Sylpheed simply strips all the extraneous codes out and
> > > displays HTML as text. As far as I know there are no plugins which
> > > would help it to display HTML as they are supposed to be rendered.
> > > CLAWS which is a Sylpheed spinoff does have ways to display HTML
> > > and is a drop-in replacement for Sylpheed. I tried it recently but
> > > found the documentation lacking in clarity. I ended up switching
> > > to Thunderbird.
> > 
> > Yes, it strips the code, shows the plain text, plus, all the image
> > links. All of it in no particular order.  There's got to be a better
> > option.  I'll let the list know, if I find one.
> 
> Wait a minute. In Sylpheed, html messages can be viewed with an
> external browser. (Right click > Open...)

An "Open" option is not available.  And I can't find any such option in
any of the menus either.

> This works so well that there has never been a need for an internal
> html viewer.
> The browser you prefer can be set in Configuration > Common
> preferences > Details > tab External commands.
> I have 'Web browser' set to   opera '%s' .

I have mine set to google chrome '%s'.  I also tried chrome '%s'.  No
joy.Of course, I'm configuring as I learn how to use Sylpheed.  So,
that could be part of the problem.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Siard
Patrick Bartek:
> Frank McCormick:
> > Sylpheed simply strips all the extraneous codes out and
> > displays HTML as text. As far as I know there are no plugins which
> > would help it to display HTML as they are supposed to be rendered.
> > CLAWS which is a Sylpheed spinoff does have ways to display HTML
> > and is a drop-in replacement for Sylpheed. I tried it recently but
> > found the documentation lacking in clarity. I ended up switching to
> > Thunderbird.
> 
> Yes, it strips the code, shows the plain text, plus, all the image
> links. All of it in no particular order.  There's got to be a better
> option.  I'll let the list know, if I find one.

Wait a minute. In Sylpheed, html messages can be viewed with an external
browser. (Right click > Open...)
This works so well that there has never been a need for an internal
html viewer.
The browser you prefer can be set in Configuration > Common preferences >
Details > tab External commands.
I have 'Web browser' set to   opera '%s' .


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-28 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:06:33 -0400
Frank McCormick  wrote:

> On 04/27/2013 07:10 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:48:55 -0400, Rob Owens 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:15:09PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >>>
> >>> [snip
> >>>
> >>> All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding
> >>> how to handle those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics
> >>> and pictures I get from friends, clients and suppliers who use
> >>> Windows. ;-)
> >>>
> >> I'm not sure about Sylpheed, but here's how it works on Mutt.  If I
> >> get an HTML email, I hit 'v' to view attachments.  There will be an
> >> html attachment which represents the body of the email.  If I
> >> select it, the email will open in a web browser.
> >
> > I don't know how Sylpheed handles HTML either.  I'm still reading
> > the manual.  Since it accepts plugins, I'm hoping it will be handle
> > there, automagically.
> >
> > B
> >
> >
> 
> Sylpheed simply strips all the extraneous codes out and displays 
> HTML as text. As far as I know there are no plugins which would help
> it to display HTML as they are supposed to be rendered. CLAWS which
> is a Sylpheed spinoff does have ways to display HTML and is a drop-in 
> replacement for Sylpheed. I tried it recently but found the 
> documentation lacking in clarity. I ended up switching to Thunderbird.

Yes, it strips the code, shows the plain text, plus, all the image
links. All of it in no particular order.  There's got to be a better
option.  I'll let the list know, if I find one.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-27 Thread Frank McCormick

On 04/27/2013 07:10 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:48:55 -0400, Rob Owens  wrote:


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:15:09PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:


[snip

All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding
how to handle those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics and
pictures I get from friends, clients and suppliers who use
Windows. ;-)


I'm not sure about Sylpheed, but here's how it works on Mutt.  If I
get an HTML email, I hit 'v' to view attachments.  There will be an
html attachment which represents the body of the email.  If I select
it, the email will open in a web browser.


I don't know how Sylpheed handles HTML either.  I'm still reading the
manual.  Since it accepts plugins, I'm hoping it will be handle there,
automagically.

B




   Sylpheed simply strips all the extraneous codes out and displays 
HTML as text. As far as I know there are no plugins which would help
it to display HTML as they are supposed to be rendered. CLAWS which is a 
Sylpheed spinoff does have ways to display HTML and is a drop-in 
replacement for Sylpheed. I tried it recently but found the 
documentation lacking in clarity. I ended up switching to Thunderbird.




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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-27 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:48:55 -0400, Rob Owens  wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:15:09PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > [snip
> > 
> > All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding
> > how to handle those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics and
> > pictures I get from friends, clients and suppliers who use
> > Windows. ;-)
> > 
> I'm not sure about Sylpheed, but here's how it works on Mutt.  If I
> get an HTML email, I hit 'v' to view attachments.  There will be an
> html attachment which represents the body of the email.  If I select
> it, the email will open in a web browser.

I don't know how Sylpheed handles HTML either.  I'm still reading the
manual.  Since it accepts plugins, I'm hoping it will be handle there,
automagically.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-27 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:34:28 +1200, Chris Bannister
 wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:15:09PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > [snip
> > 
> > All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding
> > how to handle those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics and
> > pictures I get from friends, clients and suppliers who use
> > Windows. ;-)
> 
> You'll also want to tweak the line wrap option (I hope) :)
> 
> [snip]
> 
> According to research 72 is a good limit for comprehension, whereas
> [snip]

Oops!  I had line length set at 72, but hadn't "enabled" word wrap.
Silly me.

B


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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:15:09PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> Thanks to all who helped getting my Yahoo Mail account switched over to a 
> standard e-mail client, currently Sylpheed 3.2.0.  I've always hated using 
> the web interface.
> 
> All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding how to 
> handle those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics and pictures I get 
> from friends, clients and suppliers who use Windows. ;-)

You'll also want to tweak the line wrap option (I hope) :)

http://sylpheeddoc.sourceforge.net/en/faq/faq-1.html
http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/doc/manual/en/sylpheed-8.html

According to research 72 is a good limit for comprehension, whereas some
people said they could read faster if the lines were set at about 100
characters but then they didn't comprehend it as well as if it was set
at 72 characters. 

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Re: Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-27 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:15:09PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> Thanks to all who helped getting my Yahoo Mail account switched over to a 
> standard e-mail client, currently Sylpheed 3.2.0.  I've always hated using 
> the web interface.
> 
> All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding how to 
> handle those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics and pictures I get 
> from friends, clients and suppliers who use Windows. ;-)
> 
I'm not sure about Sylpheed, but here's how it works on Mutt.  If I get
an HTML email, I hit 'v' to view attachments.  There will be an html
attachment which represents the body of the email.  If I select it, the
email will open in a web browser.

-Rob


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Thanks to All (Was: MUA & Yahoo)

2013-04-27 Thread Patrick Bartek
Thanks to all who helped getting my Yahoo Mail account switched over to a 
standard e-mail client, currently Sylpheed 3.2.0.  I've always hated using the 
web interface.

All that's left to do other than some final tweaking is deciding how to handle 
those HTML e-mails with all their pretty graphics and pictures I get from 
friends, clients and suppliers who use Windows. ;-)

Thanks, again.

B


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