Re: Theme control in Xfce4 [SOLVED]
Cleaning up some old business, long after the dust has settled. Steve's suggestion eliminated my need to install the old Crux, but only after I corrected his instructions. See below. (I want the correction in the list archive, so that I can find it when I forget.) Thanks, Steve. pec On 20140726_0653-0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:26:02 -0600 Paul Condon pecond...@gmail.com wrote: Until quite recently, i.e. in the last year or so, I used the Crux theme in Gnome and more recent Xfce4. But in a recent install from release 7.6 (of Wheezy), Crux has changed in a way that is significant for me. I have a style of working in which I have many overlapping terminal windows on the screen. When the window that has focus is too small to contain some long lines without folding, I like to quickly expand the window, either to the left or to the right, depending on what other window will be covered by the expansion. The old Crux had thick borders on all four sides, top, bottom, left, and right. This thick border made it easy to position the mouse cursor on a particular edge and quickly adjust it to my liking. In the new Crux the side borders are extremely hard to hit on with my imperfect eye-hand coordination. I want the old Crux back. Hopefully, what b recommended, in a different email, about making a derivative crux, will work. But if it doesn't, positioning a mouse anywhere near the inside of one of the four corners and then Alt+right-dragging will change the size both horizontally and Alt+right-drag will move the side closest to the cursor so as to maintain a fixed distance of that side and the cursor. The cursor icon changes to an arrow which points to the side (or corner) that will be moved in lock step to cursor movement. vertically. Placing the mouse near the center of any side and then Alt+right-dragging enables you to move that side in either direction. Alt+left-drag will move the whole window without changing its size. NB. Left, not Right. It's not perfect, but it got me through the day when I switched away ^^^ For me, it's much better than what I was asking for ;) It works for me (tm). I've tested it only in the context of Wheezy 7.6, Xfce4, gnome-terminal. from IceWM and lost my ability to easily resize. And it works in almost any Linux environment, although it's a little quirky in the dwm window manager. HTH, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140803155245.ga14...@big.lan.gnu
Re: Theme control in Xfce4
On 7/26/14, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: On 7/26/14, Paul Condon pecond...@gmail.com wrote: terminal windows on the screen. When the window that has focus is too - Algorithmic xterm layout - I posted this once before on debian-user. Link: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/01/msg01084.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSRnHf4p3Fkt_mm+ybNsP1=j3opegujskz4qnxrfov1...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Theme control in Xfce4
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:26:02 -0600 Paul Condon pecond...@gmail.com wrote: Until quite recently, i.e. in the last year or so, I used the Crux theme in Gnome and more recent Xfce4. But in a recent install from release 7.6 (of Wheezy), Crux has changed in a way that is significant for me. I have a style of working in which I have many overlapping terminal windows on the screen. When the window that has focus is too small to contain some long lines without folding, I like to quickly expand the window, either to the left or to the right, depending on what other window will be covered by the expansion. The old Crux had thick borders on all four sides, top, bottom, left, and right. This thick border made it easy to position the mouse cursor on a particular edge and quickly adjust it to my liking. In the new Crux the side borders are extremely hard to hit on with my imperfect eye-hand coordination. I want the old Crux back. Hopefully, what b recommended, in a different email, about making a derivative crux, will work. But if it doesn't, positioning a mouse anywhere near the inside of one of the four corners and then Alt+right-dragging will change the size both horizontally and vertically. Placing the mouse near the center of any side and then Alt+right-dragging enables you to move that side in either direction. It's not perfect, but it got me through the day when I switched away from IceWM and lost my ability to easily resize. And it works in almost any Linux environment, although it's a little quirky in the dwm window manager. HTH, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140726065314.53b82...@mydesq2.domain.cxm
Re: Theme control in Xfce4
On Saturday 26 July 2014 11:53:14 Steve Litt wrote: And it works in almost any Linux environment, although it's a little quirky in the dwm window manager. Not in TDE. :-( Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201407261205.24117.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Theme control in Xfce4
On 20140726_0639+0200, B wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:26:02 -0600 Paul Condon pecond...@gmail.com wrote: on with my imperfect eye-hand coordination. I want the old Crux back. Is there a package of 'legacy' themes? What is its name? I don't know if it can be recovered; however, you could go in /usr/share/themes as root, create your own theme directory, copy the actual Crux theme in it and modify it according to your needs. This way, whatever the changes, you'll be able to keep it the way you want. Because of a totally different malfunction, I am using gmail to post my question to this list in spite of my total unfamiliarity in its proper use. Now I am unsure of how to link this reply into the thread started by my original post. There must be a way, in the gmail user interface, to post a reply to a list, but maybe not. Oh well. Back to composing the reply to B: I found the theme collection where you said it would be. The content of a theme seems to be a collection of text files with names matching the expression '*.xpm' I know how to copy the whole lot of them into a different directory in a different place where I could modify them, but what is xpm? I think it might be possible for me to learn enough about xpm to make the change needed, if you can get me started. A question about what I found: In the themes directory, there is also a theme named 'Cruxish' (just after 'Crux' in alphabetical order), but in Xfce4 Applications Menu - Settings - Appearance Crux appears in the pick-list of themes, but Cruxish does not. Perhaps all I need to do is make Xfce4 offer me Cruxish? OTOH, your suggestion of making my own personal theme and squirreling it away somewhere where I can recover it across dist-upgrades and netinst is the better long term solution. Your advice? -- Paul E Condon
Re: Theme control in Xfce4
Paul Condon wrote: On 20140726_0639+0200, B wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:26:02 -0600 Paul Condon pecond...@gmail.com mailto:pecond...@gmail.com wrote: on with my imperfect eye-hand coordination. I want the old Crux back. Is there a package of 'legacy' themes? What is its name? I don't know if it can be recovered; however, you could go in /usr/share/themes as root, create your own theme directory, copy the actual Crux theme in it and modify it according to your needs. This way, whatever the changes, you'll be able to keep it the way you want. Because of a totally different malfunction, I am using gmail to post my question to this list in spite of my total unfamiliarity in its proper use. Now I am unsure of how to link this reply into the thread started by my original post. There must be a way, in the gmail user interface, to post a reply to a list, but maybe not. Oh well. Back to composing the reply to B: I found the theme collection where you said it would be. The content of a theme seems to be a collection of text files with names matching the expression '*.xpm' I know how to copy the whole lot of them into a different directory in a different place where I could modify them, but what is xpm? I think it might be possible for me to learn enough about xpm to make the change needed, if you can get me started. A question about what I found: In the themes directory, there is also a theme named 'Cruxish' (just after 'Crux' in alphabetical order), but in Xfce4 Applications Menu - Settings - Appearance Crux appears in the pick-list of themes, but Cruxish does not. Perhaps all I need to do is make Xfce4 offer me Cruxish? OTOH, your suggestion of making my own personal theme and squirreling it away somewhere where I can recover it across dist-upgrades and netinst is the better long term solution. Your advice? -- Paul E Condon Only had a few minutes to look and was interupted. Found http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/xfwm4_theme#dokuwiki__top http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_PixMap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53d3e3eb.3000...@cloud85.net
Theme control in Xfce4
Until quite recently, i.e. in the last year or so, I used the Crux theme in Gnome and more recent Xfce4. But in a recent install from release 7.6 (of Wheezy), Crux has changed in a way that is significant for me. I have a style of working in which I have many overlapping terminal windows on the screen. When the window that has focus is too small to contain some long lines without folding, I like to quickly expand the window, either to the left or to the right, depending on what other window will be covered by the expansion. The old Crux had thick borders on all four sides, top, bottom, left, and right. This thick border made it easy to position the mouse cursor on a particular edge and quickly adjust it to my liking. In the new Crux the side borders are extremely hard to hit on with my imperfect eye-hand coordination. I want the old Crux back. Is there a package of 'legacy' themes? What is its name? The so-called hi-contrast themes don't help. They don't affect the outside border. Instead they use up interior area, thus reducing the area of useful information. How can I get the old Crux back? Please. -- Paul E Condon
Re: Theme control in Xfce4
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:26:02 -0600 Paul Condon pecond...@gmail.com wrote: on with my imperfect eye-hand coordination. I want the old Crux back. Is there a package of 'legacy' themes? What is its name? I don't know if it can be recovered; however, you could go in /usr/share/themes as root, create your own theme directory, copy the actual Crux theme in it and modify it according to your needs. This way, whatever the changes, you'll be able to keep it the way you want. -- User : You told me no capitals for the password , is that it? Hot-Line : Correct. User : Shall I put numbers in lowercase too? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Theme control in Xfce4
On 7/26/14, Paul Condon pecond...@gmail.com wrote: terminal windows on the screen. When the window that has focus is too small to contain some long lines without folding, I like to quickly expand the window, either to the left or to the right, depending on what other window will be covered by the expansion. The old Crux had thick borders on all four sides, top, bottom, left, and right. This thick border made it easy to position the mouse cursor on a particular edge and quickly adjust it to my liking. In the new Crux the side borders are extremely hard to hit on with my imperfect eye-hand coordination. I want the old Crux back. Is there a package of 'legacy' themes? What is its name? How can I get the old Crux back? Please. Don't have a specific answer to that. I have a similar need/usage of xterms - and a lot of xterms - quickly seeing more width is great, I agree. But I do have some suggestions which may enhance your terminal experience (but hopefully not ending terminal experience, or never not no double negatives :) - Algorithmic xterm layout - I posted this once before on debian-user. - GNU Screen, with a theme which gives nice tabs, I use CTRL-PgUp and CTRL-PgDn to cycle. - XFCE has window manager keyboard shortcuts, and I have set two shortcuts to make use of the Window Logo key: * Logo-F11 - fully un/maximise current window (no window decorations) * Shift-Logo-F11 - un/maximise (with window decorations) Either of these keyboard shortcuts make it easy to quickly maximise and unmaximise a particular xterm. This is different to (temporarily) overlapping another window, but is useful to me nonetheless. - Buy an ambidextrous Logitech Trackman Marble, and get comfortable using it with the left hand. This provides (I find) more accurate control than mouse, but less than a trackpoint/nipple or trackpad. So depends what you have. You see, I prefer window borders of just a few pixels, so don't have much to grab, but the trackball means this is sort of equivalent to thicker window borders for me. Good luck :) Zenaan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caosgnsqdacesrl80h1+2xivwzbyprglvca5a9ucptkasvd-...@mail.gmail.com
