Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]
RavenLX wrote: > I always wanted to learn Python actually, and am learning it also for > some work scripts I want to write. I started with PERL before python was out there and when it was out, I had a look just to understand how it works. It is good to know some scripting language to help you do some tasks. Python became very powerful in the past years and knowing it better is definitely of advantage regards
Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]
On 08/19/2017 07:35 PM, deloptes wrote: Zenaan Harkness wrote: Pythong, -the- language for digital wedgies. haha " digital wedgies"! you don't have to know python to use ansible Actually YAML is more important for ansible regards I always wanted to learn Python actually, and am learning it also for some work scripts I want to write.
Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]
On 08/19/2017 05:52 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 02:32:45PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: am learning Pythong. Pythong, -the- language for digital wedgies. ROTFLMAO! I think my typing needs to go bak to schtool. :P (That time typos were on purpose - just a little added humor ;) ) Whenever I go writing a post that is quite long, I will have to remind myself to: a) Never write a long post when tired and b) Proofread the post. Maybe a little dose of c) TBP (Think Before Posting) would also help in my case.
Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]
Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 01:35:46AM +0200, deloptes wrote: >> Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> >> > Pythong, -the- language for digital wedgies. >> >> haha " digital wedgies"! >> you don't have to know python to use ansible >> Actually YAML is more important for ansible > > I love YAML - it is hands down the best human-readable, yet concise > data markup type language out there, with support in lots of > programming languages. meanwhile I do not have preferences. more important the work is done cleanly, but yaml is at least easily readable. regards
Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]
On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 01:35:46AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > Pythong, -the- language for digital wedgies. > > haha " digital wedgies"! > you don't have to know python to use ansible > Actually YAML is more important for ansible I love YAML - it is hands down the best human-readable, yet concise data markup type language out there, with support in lots of programming languages.
Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]
On 08/19/2017 03:40 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 02:32:45PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: ... I think use of ansible or any similar tool is not prerequisite of "development". It's a configuration management system. It's a nice and interesting tool I am thinking to learn but I don't use it yet. The biggest thing with me is my memory. In that if it takes too much to do a task (ie. Ansible taking several lines to make a directory vs. Python taking one line), then I tend to forget how things are done and it gets confusing. You need C, Shell, Perl, Python, git, ... skills first for development. Great suggestions! Thank you. I do have some C programming skills but not that great. I can get around the CLI pretty well, I'm proficient with Perl, am learning Pythong. I had used git but I don't really have much to share (right now) and so I don't have an account anymore there. Most of my stuff is for my work, which doesn't really share stuff (though I could share my code if I wish). I'm not thinking of going into a side-hobby of programming. At work I manage a web server, and pretty much am more comfy with Perl and Bash and now Python. But I also want to be sure to keep up with the times, so to speak. So I wondered if other admins recommended Ansible as a "must have skill" or just optional. You are now talking different things. "developer" --> "admins" If you are managing multiple servers as profession, you need to make such process recorded and reproducible. That's what configuration management system is for and it is becoming one of the very basic tool to know. Good luck. Osamu I manage one server plus I have a test Virtual Machine I use on my computer to test things. I also write scripts for the server to do some custom things we need to do. So I kind of do both things.
Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]
Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Pythong, -the- language for digital wedgies. haha " digital wedgies"! you don't have to know python to use ansible Actually YAML is more important for ansible regards
Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 02:32:45PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: > am learning Pythong. Pythong, -the- language for digital wedgies.
Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]
Hi, On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 02:32:45PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: > ... > > > I think use of ansible or any similar tool is not prerequisite of > > "development". It's a configuration management system. It's a nice > > and interesting tool I am thinking to learn but I don't use it yet. > > The biggest thing with me is my memory. In that if it takes too much to do a > task (ie. Ansible taking several lines to make a directory vs. Python taking > one line), then I tend to forget how things are done and it gets confusing. > > > You need C, Shell, Perl, Python, git, ... skills first for > > development. > > Great suggestions! Thank you. I do have some C programming skills but not > that great. I can get around the CLI pretty well, I'm proficient with Perl, > am learning Pythong. I had used git but I don't really have much to share > (right now) and so I don't have an account anymore there. Most of my stuff > is for my work, which doesn't really share stuff (though I could share my > code if I wish). I'm not thinking of going into a side-hobby of programming. > At work I manage a web server, and pretty much am more comfy with Perl and > Bash and now Python. But I also want to be sure to keep up with the times, > so to speak. So I wondered if other admins recommended Ansible as a "must > have skill" or just optional. You are now talking different things. "developer" --> "admins" If you are managing multiple servers as profession, you need to make such process recorded and reproducible. That's what configuration management system is for and it is becoming one of the very basic tool to know. Good luck. Osamu
Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]
On 08/19/2017 11:16 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just fixing the subject, for the benefit of search engines. - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlmYVkcACgkQBcgs9XrR2kb7fACfcOsMgvXnd34Ch56vm0dFrHMk iXQAnjK0rM6Gw9XkTGa2EGc8m550J2kc =4CIk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thank you. I'm sorry about the typo. I'll reply in this fixed thread. On 08/19/2017 11:12 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 07:01:03PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: >> Please forgive my goofy questions. I am not really that well versed in CM >> (Configuration Management) and this post is really going to show it. >> >> Because this will more than likely be tltr (too long to read), I'll try to >> make it as fun as possible. Forgive if my humor is a bit strange. >> >> I noticed "Anible" isn't in the debian repos. Seems to be a Red Hat >> scripting engine for creating automated installs. > > Just a fact correction. > > I think you are mistyping. Ansible is in the repo of Debian: Thank you. I think that's why I couldn't find it - I mispelled it. :) [snipped apt show info] ... > I think use of ansible or any similar tool is not prerequisite of > "development". It's a configuration management system. It's a nice > and interesting tool I am thinking to learn but I don't use it yet. The biggest thing with me is my memory. In that if it takes too much to do a task (ie. Ansible taking several lines to make a directory vs. Python taking one line), then I tend to forget how things are done and it gets confusing. > You need C, Shell, Perl, Python, git, ... skills first for > development. Great suggestions! Thank you. I do have some C programming skills but not that great. I can get around the CLI pretty well, I'm proficient with Perl, am learning Pythong. I had used git but I don't really have much to share (right now) and so I don't have an account anymore there. Most of my stuff is for my work, which doesn't really share stuff (though I could share my code if I wish). I'm not thinking of going into a side-hobby of programming. At work I manage a web server, and pretty much am more comfy with Perl and Bash and now Python. But I also want to be sure to keep up with the times, so to speak. So I wondered if other admins recommended Ansible as a "must have skill" or just optional.
Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]
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