Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file
On 18/6/24 03:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: And I can never remember if the dot means AM or PM. I suspect it changes between implementations, or maybe I'm just very slow. Probably only really meant to show us when we are setting an alarm at night, for the morning, that the dot is on one and off on the other. Else we'll wake a little late. Remember the joke about going to bed at 8 and setting the alarm on a wind-up clock for 9 - we wouldn't get much sleep. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file
On 18/6/24 01:36, David Wright wrote: Along with 350M Americans! They even use just A and P over here. And a mere dot on digital clocks. (I see you've changed it already!) I've been using 24 hour time and dMMM for a long time. I used send international cheques as part of my work, and decided that spelling the month was simple basics. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file
On 6/17/24 11:36, David Wright wrote: On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 10:23:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: I wonder if Keith's confusion is simply due to my MUA using "AM" and "PM" in its attribution line, and Keith not seeing the "PM". Maybe I should look into configuring that differently. Along with 350M Americans! They even use just A and P over here. And a mere dot on digital clocks. And I can never remember if the dot means AM or PM. I suspect it changes between implementations, or maybe I'm just very slow. Worse(?), some clocks that don't deal with date or alarms (e.g. microwave, car, some watches) are 12h only. -- Given the correlation between insufficient nookie and the high rate of unemployment among recent college graduates coupled with high college debts, I propose to kill two birds* with one stone: A new government program called "Ameriwhore". -- Arty in AFC-A
Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 10:36:59 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 10:23:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > /etc/timezone is only used by some legacy programs. All the current > > ones should be using /etc/localtime instead, which is a symlink to a > > binary zoneinfo file, rather than a text file containing a timezone name. > > You're right of course, but confirming its value does involve using > a command that's probably not at the front of one's mind. > > BTW what's the relationship between "current programs" and TZ nowadays? Do you mean the TZ variable? That overrides the system default. hobbit:~$ date; TZ=Europe/Paris date Mon Jun 17 11:40:59 EDT 2024 Mon Jun 17 17:40:59 CEST 2024 If you're asking about programs that still use /etc/timzeone, I don't know of any off hand. I'd be interested in hearing about any that still do, though probably less so than the Debian libc6 maintainers are.
Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file
On Mon 17 Jun 2024 at 10:23:46 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 09:14:38AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > You asked after your /system/ clock. I don't think I can tell whether > > it's set to UTC or Local Time, but only that it is correct, whichever > > it it on. Likewise the hardware RTC. The third line of /etc/adjtime > > says what the RTC is on; /etc/timezone says what the system is on; > > $ date says what your user is on. > > /etc/timezone is only used by some legacy programs. All the current > ones should be using /etc/localtime instead, which is a symlink to a > binary zoneinfo file, rather than a text file containing a timezone name. You're right of course, but confirming its value does involve using a command that's probably not at the front of one's mind. BTW what's the relationship between "current programs" and TZ nowadays? > I wonder if Keith's confusion is simply due to my MUA using "AM" and "PM" > in its attribution line, and Keith not seeing the "PM". Maybe I should > look into configuring that differently. Along with 350M Americans! They even use just A and P over here. And a mere dot on digital clocks. (I see you've changed it already!) Cheers, David.
