Re: Toshiba laptop --- resume mode

1997-10-22 Thread Joey Hess
Bruce Perens wrote:
 By the way, my Toshiba system runs the disk about 20% faster when I use
 hdparm to turn on 32-bit mode.

How did you benchmark that? I've tried using bonnie, and don't see any real
difference with my disks when I turn 32 bit on and off.

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Re: Toshiba laptop --- resume mode

1997-10-21 Thread Bruce Perens
 Note that in order to actually get a spindown, you'll have to increase
 the time interval of `update' to something like half an hour

I run /dev on a ram disk, and disable cron when undocked. That seems to be
enough to get the disk to spin down, regardless of the time period of
update. I think the system spent a lot of time updating the dates of tty
files in /dev.

Thanks

Bruce
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Toshiba laptop --- resume mode

1997-10-20 Thread Bill Moran
Hi 

I am having problems with my Toshiba laptop 410CS. Resume mode doesn't
work --- the machine just freezes.

Any ideas

Thanks



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RE: Toshiba laptop --- resume mode

1997-10-20 Thread Ted Harding

On 20-Oct-97 Bill Moran wrote:

I am having problems with my Toshiba laptop 410CS. Resume mode doesn't
work --- the machine just freezes.

Bill

I'm not familiar with Toshibas, but many laptops have a BIOS setup option
to activate Advanced Power Management. Turn this off and use at most
basic power management. This may solve the problem (as it has done on a
different laptop that I know of). You will have to put up with the disks
spinning up every so often when the system syncs.

Best wishes,
Ted.

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Re: Toshiba laptop --- resume mode

1997-10-20 Thread Bruce Perens
First, let me assure you that you can get it to work. It works great on
my Toshiba 440CDT.

Install the kernel-source package. As root, make menuconfig in the
/usr/src/linux directory. Enable APM (it's under character devices).
Enable the option for APM to blank the screen. This will work fine for
both text screens and X windows, and will turn off the backlight.
APM is not enabled in our generic kernel because some machines crash with it
enabled. Remove device drivers that aren't used on your system. Build the
kernel with make zLilo, and the modules with
make modules;make modules_install.

Do not install the apmd package. apmd is not reacting fast enough and
it breaks resume on my system. The system resumes fine without it.

Boot with the setup disk that came with the system, and set the APM
parameters like screen blank time, etc.

I am able to change the screen brightness with the function key with the
water-faucet icon on it. Push Fn and that key. I think this is changing
between the three APM options you see in the set-up disk, but I'm not sure.

Thanks

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Re: Toshiba laptop --- resume mode

1997-10-20 Thread Bruce Perens
By the way, my Toshiba system runs the disk about 20% faster when I use
hdparm to turn on 32-bit mode.

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Re: Toshiba laptop --- resume mode

1997-10-20 Thread Olaf Weber
Bruce Perens writes:

 First, let me assure you that you can get it to work. It works great on
 my Toshiba 440CDT.

Also on my 430CDS.

 Do not install the apmd package. apmd is not reacting fast
 enough and it breaks resume on my system. The system resumes fine
 without it.

I must admit that I've never had this problem myself.  (And I think
your problem is that apmd reacts too fast, and shuts the system down
while it is in the middle of a sync.)  In any case, it is easy to
patch ampd.

 Boot with the setup disk that came with the system, and set the APM
 parameters like screen blank time, etc.

For the terminal screen, you can set these parameters with `setterm'
(-powersave and -blank options).  For X, you may want to include
`Option power_saver' in the XF86Config file, and then specify the
BlankTime, StandbyTime, SuspendTime, and Offtime parameters.  When
power_saver is enables, you can `xset -dpms ...' to fine-tune these.

For hard-disks, you set the spindown by using hdparm as well.
However, if you use hdparm then that setting won't be retained over a
resume.  (I patched apmd to call the requisite script after every
resume, that way I get a spindown in any of the power modes.)

Note that in order to actually get a spindown, you'll have to increase
the time interval of `update' to something like half an hour (in
/etc/init.d/boot).  Moreover, you may want to edit /etc/syslog.conf to
discard most of the output from various daemons.

 I am able to change the screen brightness with the function key with
 the water-faucet icon on it. Push Fn and that key. I think this is
 changing between the three APM options you see in the set-up disk,
 but I'm not sure.

Yes.  Two of these are fixed, the third you can configure to your own
liking.  For that option, I picked low brightness (the greatest
powersaver AFAICT) with fast CPU but the silent cooling method.
This gets me responsiveness with a reasonable battery life for my
purposes.

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Re: Toshiba laptop resume mode

1997-07-14 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

 The kernel we distribute doesn't have Advanced Power Management configured
 in because it crashes some systems. Install the kernel-source package and
 make a custom kernel, with APM enabled. That should handle resume just fine.

FWIW my 2105 handles resume just fine with the stock debian install
kernel, either 2.0.27 or 2.0.29. Of course, the PCMCIA cards disappear
after powering down, but linux comes back just fine.

Cheers,
 Pann


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Re: Toshiba laptop resume mode

1997-07-14 Thread Bruce Perens
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

 The kernel we distribute doesn't have Advanced Power Management configured
 in because it crashes some systems. Install the kernel-source package and
 make a custom kernel, with APM enabled. That should handle resume just fine.

From: Pann McCuaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 FWIW my 2105 handles resume just fine with the stock debian install
 kernel, either 2.0.27 or 2.0.29. Of course, the PCMCIA cards disappear
 after powering down, but linux comes back just fine.

Try cat /proc/apm. If it is there, APM _is_ in the kernel and my information
was out of date. If not, you really should be running a kernel with it before
you hit the suspend button.

Thanks

Bruce


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Re: Toshiba laptop resume mode

1997-07-14 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

  The kernel we distribute doesn't have Advanced Power Management configured
  in because it crashes some systems. Install the kernel-source package and
  make a custom kernel, with APM enabled. That should handle resume just fine.
 
 From: Pann McCuaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  FWIW my 2105 handles resume just fine with the stock debian install
  kernel, either 2.0.27 or 2.0.29. Of course, the PCMCIA cards disappear
  after powering down, but linux comes back just fine.
 
 Try cat /proc/apm. If it is there, APM _is_ in the kernel and my information
 was out of date. If not, you really should be running a kernel with it before
 you hit the suspend button.

No such file or directory -- your information is _not_ out of date.

I have a small (40mb) partition on this laptop that I must use primarily
for work-related DOS/Windows development -- I need (want) linux available,
but normally boot in from DOS which keeps my modem alive, and neither the
APM or PCMCIA features are important to me at this point.

I just wanted to point out that, at least on this model, suspend/resume
doesn't require APM (at least not if you're not using or don't need to
access PCMCIA cards).

Cheers,
 Pann



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Re: Toshiba laptop resume mode

1997-07-13 Thread Mike Orr
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Bill Moran wrote:

 I am trying to install debian on a Toshiba laptop 410 CS and am having
 trouble making resume mode work. When I try to resume the computer
 hangs.

I have a Toshiba Satellite T2130CT; I don't know how much that differs
internally from yours.

Suspend/resume works wonderfully.  I just close the cover and it suspends. 
I had to go back to the Dos partition and enable it with the Windows
Control Panel.  Mine also has that function on the keyboard, but I forget
which of the function-key icons is for suspend (could it be the lock? or
the water faucet? or the suitcase?). 

Does the screen show where you left off and then it hangs, or what does it
show on the screen when you restart?  If I leave my computer suspended and
unplugged for three days or so, I get a blank screen saying RESUME
FAILURE.  I then press a key and it reboots.  Naturally the filesystems
don't get unmounted cleanly when it dies, so fsck complains, but I have
not had any major problems with it.

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Re: Toshiba laptop resume mode

1997-07-13 Thread Bruce Perens
The kernel we distribute doesn't have Advanced Power Management configured
in because it crashes some systems. Install the kernel-source package and
make a custom kernel, with APM enabled. That should handle resume just fine.

Bruce
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Toshiba laptop resume mode

1997-07-07 Thread Bill Moran
HI 

I am trying to install debian on a Toshiba laptop 410 CS and am having
trouble making resume mode work. When I try to resume the computer
hangs.
Any ideas?

Bill


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