Re: Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On 2015-06-19, Steve Greig wrote: > > Not trying to rant but trying to explain why I want to stick with Free > Software despite technical challenges. > Well, then, do like Reco said to do. Then, apt-get update followed by apt-get -t wheezy-backports jmptfs (this might pull in fuse or other dependency packages; just say yes) Usage: Make a mountpoint somewhere: mkdir ~/android_phone jmptfs android_phone (after plugging your phone in to a usb port) fusermount -u android_phone to unmount I thinks that's it anyway. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmo857v.2rs.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On Friday 19 June 2015 13:45:55 Steve Greig wrote: > It does seem weird to me that transferring files between two computers is > not be a basic function that does not require additional software to be > downloaded. It doesn't usually. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506191402.17955.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 01:45:55PM +0100, Steve Greig wrote: >Thats right I am a newbie despite having used Linux for about 10 years. I >seem to have found the apt-get system very tricky to get my head round. > >It does seem weird to me that transferring files between two computers is >not be a basic function that does not require additional software to be >downloaded. The problem that android have encountered is how to expose a file system in an independent manner. Prior to android version 4.0, external storage was FAT32 formatted and the connection was USB Mass Storage. This worked well, as it was a lowest-common-denominator system. However, as Android started to develop more security protocols, it was seen that a more capable file system was needed. FAT is a very simple filesystem and, while it's far enough for removable media, it's not really suited as part of an operating system. So, what was the alternative? FAT is, really, the only file system that is fully, natively supported by all three major desktop operating systems (Linux, MacOS and Windows). Anything else locks out part of the market. Add to that the problem that, if you're switching to a fuller-featured filesystem for security purposes, exposing that whole file system to another operating system causes no end of problems. So, in the end, android picked Microsoft's MTP protocol as a successor. Think of this as being like an FTP server built into the device. It doesn't matter what filesystem the device ACTUALLY uses, any operating system taking to the device must speak a well-defined protocol that exposes only certain aspects of the file system. There is no concept of ownership or permissions in MTP, you can't run defragmenters or filesystem checkers on MTP. All you can really do is list files, fetch them and put them. > >If you are too busy no worries as AirDroid is solving the problem. On >their wesite they say: 'BY VISITING THE WEBSITES OR USING THE SERVICES IN >ANY MANNER, YOU AGREE THAT YOU HAVE READ AND AGREE TO BE BOUND BY AND A >PARTY TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT TO THE EXCLUSION OF >ALL OTHER TERMS'. Taken literally that is so absurd as to make me not want >to depend on their software.. why should I read their terms before >even visiting their website? Also, HOW do you read their terms and conditions without visiting their website? Are you supposed to write to them and ask for permission to use the website? > >Not trying to rant but trying to explain why I want to stick with Free >Software despite technical challenges. > >Steve > >On 19 Jun 2015 12:27, "Lisi Reisz" <[1]lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Friday 19 June 2015 12:14:36 Steve Greig wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Steve Greig <[2]greigst...@gmail.com> > > Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:18 AM > > Subject: Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone > > To: Stefan Pietsch <[3]stefan.piet...@lsexperts.de> > > > > > > Unfortunately I do not know how to install things. The approach I took > was > > to add [4]https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs to my sources.list > and > > then type apt-get install jmtpfs into the konsole. I have pasted the > > response to that below and after that the contents of my sources.list > (i > > tried with and without 'deb' in front of the line about jmtpfs in the > > sources.list but with the same error result). > > > > root@debian:/etc/apt# apt-get install jmtpfs > > Reading package lists... Error! > > E: Type '[5]https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs' is not known on > line 17 > > in source list /etc/apt/sources.list > > E: The list of sources could not be read. > > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. > > root@debian:/etc/apt# > > > > > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD > > Binary-[6]1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main > > > > #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD > > Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main > > > > deb [7]http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main > > deb-src [8]http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main > > > > deb [9]http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main > > deb-src [10]http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main > > > > # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' >
Re: Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:14:36PM +0100, Steve Greig wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Steve Greig > Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:18 AM > Subject: Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone > To: Stefan Pietsch > > > Unfortunately I do not know how to install things. The approach I took was to > add https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs to my sources.list and then type > apt-get install jmtpfs into the konsole. No, that's not how they do these things. https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs is merely a package description, not a repository. > I have pasted the response to that > below and after that the contents of my sources.list (i tried with and without > 'deb' in front of the line about jmtpfs in the sources.list but with the same > error result). Both should not work anyway. sources.list has a specific format, violating it won't do you any good. What you were meant to do is to add this to your sources.list: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main and run apt-get update apt-get install -t wheezy-backports jtmpfs Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619124937.ga20...@d1696.int.rdtex.ru
Re: Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
Thats right I am a newbie despite having used Linux for about 10 years. I seem to have found the apt-get system very tricky to get my head round. It does seem weird to me that transferring files between two computers is not be a basic function that does not require additional software to be downloaded. If you are too busy no worries as AirDroid is solving the problem. On their wesite they say: 'BY VISITING THE WEBSITES OR USING THE SERVICES IN ANY MANNER, YOU AGREE THAT YOU HAVE READ AND AGREE TO BE BOUND BY AND A PARTY TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT TO THE EXCLUSION OF ALL OTHER TERMS'. Taken literally that is so absurd as to make me not want to depend on their software.. why should I read their terms before even visiting their website? Not trying to rant but trying to explain why I want to stick with Free Software despite technical challenges. Steve On 19 Jun 2015 12:27, "Lisi Reisz" wrote: > On Friday 19 June 2015 12:14:36 Steve Greig wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Steve Greig > > Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:18 AM > > Subject: Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone > > To: Stefan Pietsch > > > > > > Unfortunately I do not know how to install things. The approach I took > was > > to add https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs to my sources.list and > > then type apt-get install jmtpfs into the konsole. I have pasted the > > response to that below and after that the contents of my sources.list (i > > tried with and without 'deb' in front of the line about jmtpfs in the > > sources.list but with the same error result). > > > > root@debian:/etc/apt# apt-get install jmtpfs > > Reading package lists... Error! > > E: Type 'https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs' is not known on > line 17 > > in source list /etc/apt/sources.list > > E: The list of sources could not be read. > > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. > > root@debian:/etc/apt# > > > > > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD > > Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main > > > > #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD > > Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main > > > > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main > > deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main > > > > deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main > > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main > > > > # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' > > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main > > deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main > > > > #deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free > > > > deb https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs > > ~ > > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Stefan Pietsch > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On 18.06.2015 15:47, Steve Greig wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer > files > > > > to the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the > > > > moment). I would be happy to use the command line but when I googled > > > > that it looked very complicated. > > > > > > Have a look at jmtpfs. > > > > > > https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs > > As things stand, you can't install jmtpfs. You would need backports. > There > are various things you would need to do! > > I am very busy over the next two days, and you need more than a quick > answer. > > I'll get back onto you over this and spotify in a few days time if you have > not already been satisfactorily helped and sorted out by then. > > You are clearly more of a newbie than some people are allowing for. And > jmtpfs may not be the only answer. > > Lisi > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506191227.10543.lisi.re...@gmail.com > >
Re: Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On Friday 19 June 2015 12:14:36 Steve Greig wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Steve Greig > Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:18 AM > Subject: Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone > To: Stefan Pietsch > > > Unfortunately I do not know how to install things. The approach I took was > to add https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs to my sources.list and > then type apt-get install jmtpfs into the konsole. I have pasted the > response to that below and after that the contents of my sources.list (i > tried with and without 'deb' in front of the line about jmtpfs in the > sources.list but with the same error result). > > root@debian:/etc/apt# apt-get install jmtpfs > Reading package lists... Error! > E: Type 'https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs' is not known on line 17 > in source list /etc/apt/sources.list > E: The list of sources could not be read. > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. > root@debian:/etc/apt# > > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD > Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main > > #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD > Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main > > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main > deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main > > deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main > > # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main > deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main > > #deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free > > deb https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs > ~ > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Stefan Pietsch > > > wrote: > > > > On 18.06.2015 15:47, Steve Greig wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files > > > to the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the > > > moment). I would be happy to use the command line but when I googled > > > that it looked very complicated. > > > > Have a look at jmtpfs. > > > > https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs As things stand, you can't install jmtpfs. You would need backports. There are various things you would need to do! I am very busy over the next two days, and you need more than a quick answer. I'll get back onto you over this and spotify in a few days time if you have not already been satisfactorily helped and sorted out by then. You are clearly more of a newbie than some people are allowing for. And jmtpfs may not be the only answer. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506191227.10543.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
-- Forwarded message -- From: Steve Greig Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:18 AM Subject: Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone To: Stefan Pietsch Unfortunately I do not know how to install things. The approach I took was to add https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs to my sources.list and then type apt-get install jmtpfs into the konsole. I have pasted the response to that below and after that the contents of my sources.list (i tried with and without 'deb' in front of the line about jmtpfs in the sources.list but with the same error result). root@debian:/etc/apt# apt-get install jmtpfs Reading package lists... Error! E: Type 'https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs' is not known on line 17 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: The list of sources could not be read. E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. root@debian:/etc/apt# # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main #deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free deb https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs ~ On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Stefan Pietsch wrote: > On 18.06.2015 15:47, Steve Greig wrote: > > ... > > > It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files > > to the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the moment). > > I would be happy to use the command line but when I googled that it > > looked very complicated. > > > Have a look at jmtpfs. > > https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs > > > Regards, > Stefan >
Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On 18.06.2015 15:47, Steve Greig wrote: ... > It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files > to the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the moment). > I would be happy to use the command line but when I googled that it > looked very complicated. Have a look at jmtpfs. https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs Regards, Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5583adc3.5020...@sp.consulting.lsexperts.de
Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
Le 18/06/2015 18:19, Curt a écrit : > On 2015-06-18, Curt wrote: >> On 2015-06-18, Steve Greig wrote: >>> It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files to >>> the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the moment). I >>> would be happy to use the command line but when I googled that it looked >>> very complicated. >>> >> There's an app called AirDroid; they ask you to sign up for god knows >> what online, but that is uneccesary for the purposes of simple file >> transfer. >> >> Assumes you have a wireless network; the app gets a local ip address via >> dhcp that you simply stick into the address bar of your favorite >> browser, and off you go. >> >> With all the caveats that apply, of course. >> >> > Or maybe you need 'mtpfs'; do you have that installed? > > Description: FUSE filesystem for Media Transfer Protocol devices > MTPfs is a FUSE filesystem that supports reading and writing from MTP > (Media Transfer Protocol) devices, such as MP3 players, video players or > digital cameras. > > I found jmtpfs works better for me (with a wiko rainbow and a samsung S4 mini) than mtpfs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5582f749.8060...@rail.eu.org
Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On 2015-06-18, Curt wrote: > On 2015-06-18, Steve Greig wrote: >> >> It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files to >> the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the moment). I >> would be happy to use the command line but when I googled that it looked >> very complicated. >> > > There's an app called AirDroid; they ask you to sign up for god knows > what online, but that is uneccesary for the purposes of simple file > transfer. > > Assumes you have a wireless network; the app gets a local ip address via > dhcp that you simply stick into the address bar of your favorite > browser, and off you go. > > With all the caveats that apply, of course. > > Or maybe you need 'mtpfs'; do you have that installed? Description: FUSE filesystem for Media Transfer Protocol devices MTPfs is a FUSE filesystem that supports reading and writing from MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) devices, such as MP3 players, video players or digital cameras. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmo5rsd.28g.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On 2015-06-18, Steve Greig wrote: > > It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files to > the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the moment). I > would be happy to use the command line but when I googled that it looked > very complicated. > There's an app called AirDroid; they ask you to sign up for god knows what online, but that is uneccesary for the purposes of simple file transfer. Assumes you have a wireless network; the app gets a local ip address via dhcp that you simply stick into the address bar of your favorite browser, and off you go. With all the caveats that apply, of course. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmo5qjc.28g.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
When I connect my android phone to my debian computer I get a choice of opening gwenview or file manager. I have been able to transfer photos from the phone to the computer using gwenview which is great but I can not transfer files from the computer to the phone using the file manager. The setting on the phone I have when trying to transfer files from computer to phone is 'connect as Media device (MTP)'. On the computer I chose the option: 'open with file manager'. This opens a directory (presumably from the phone) called Camera. If I click on that I get two directories: 'Samsung FT.../Note' and 'USB PTP Class Camera'. These two directories either are one and the same directory or they have identical contents because clicking on either of them gives the same result which is two directories and two .txt files. The two directories are called store_00010001 and store_00020002. When I click on these directories Dolphin sais it is initializing Camera and loading files but nothing appears. It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files to the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the moment). I would be happy to use the command line but when I googled that it looked very complicated. Thanks, Steve
