Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)

2007-06-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 25 June 2007, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 05:46:50PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > On Monday 25 June 2007, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > > > 1) Is there a way to tell my NVidia card or xorg.conf to
> > > > recognize the widescreen as my first screen?
> > >
> > > See the nvidia driver document:
> > >
> > >   /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz
> > >
> > > Option "TwinViewOrientation" "string"
> > > Controls the relationship between the two display
> > > devices when using TwinView.  Takes one of the following values:
> > > "RightOf" "LeftOf" "Above" "Below" "Clone".  Please see APPENDIX
> > > I for details. Default: string is NULL.
> >
> > That doesn't effect it.  It changes the position, but even when the
> > monitors were swapped (as in left for right), it didn't change the
> > display numbers.
> >
> > I don't mean first as in leftmost, I mean as in the display number,
> > since it seems certain things always come up on monitor #1.
>
> just out of curiousity, which monitor is the live one when the
> machine boots?

Both.  When KDE is loading, the wallpaper comes up on the widescreen and 
the loading screen comes up on the 3x4 monitor.

> also, doesn't mouse position affect this? 

Not at all.

> It certainly does in my 
> dual-head rig. Whichever screen had the mouse gets the window except
> for some odd things (xfce config windows in particular like to show
> up in the left monitor no matter what, but that could be an artifact
> of xinerama, I suppose). The xscreensaver unlock dialog is always
> interesting...

I have my panel on only the widescreen, so most of the time I open a 
window, it's from a menu or a program already on the widescreen and 
they tend to open up there, but some dialog boxes come up on the other 
one.

One bit of interesting trivia.  When I first set it up, the screensaver 
showed up on the widescreen with the other going blank.  Now it covers 
both screens, but the center is not far from the left side of the 
widescreen.  I switch screensavers and now any of the ones that make it 
look like you're racing through a tube or anything like that don't work 
visually because the path you're supposedly following is cut up between 
the monitors.

Hal


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Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)

2007-06-25 Thread Stephen Cormier
On June 25, 2007 05:50:24 am Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I have an NVidia GEforce 6800 with two monitors attached.  One is a
> widescreen, hooked up with a DVI cable, at 1680x1050, and the other is
> hooked up with a VGA cable and set at 1280x1024.  They are working, but
> there are two issues I'd like to resolve.
>
> According to KDE, the CRT is #1 and the DVI is #2 (or 0 and 1 in
> xorg.conf).  I've swapped the connections on the card and tried to
> specify the monitors differently in the MetaMode option in xorg.conf,
> but it makes no difference.  I've seen a few issues with this.  For
> instance, when I'm in Konqueror and click on a folder of bookmarks, the
> drop down menu from that always appears on display 0, which is the
> older monitor.  I can understand there are some glitches and if I'm
> going to deal with them, I'd rather have the widescreen, my main
> monitor, recognized as the first screen.

The nvidia driver always seems to want to make the CRT primary monitor unless 
you use the UseDisplayDevice option as in my first monitor section in my 
xorg.conf I show below. When I had dual CRT the monitor connected to the port 
nearest the motherboard was always primary but that is not the case with 
CRT/DPF connected to the card.

> The other issue is one I don't think there's a resolution for.  Using a
> vertical resolution of 1050 on the widescreen and 1024 for the vertical
> resolution of 1024 for the "regular" monitor leaves a deadspace of 26
> pixels on the regular monitor.  I know I can pan on that, but seeing
> anything on that screen move up and down as I move the cursor is very
> distracting.  Ideally, I'd like to set the resolution on that monitor
> at 1312x1050 instead of 1280x1024.  I've tried it and the monitor
> doesn't display a thing.

I think this is a twinview problem with the dead space when I use as I always 
have the two separate X screens I get my native 1680x1050 on the DFP and 
whatever resolution I want on the CRT no dead space you might want to give 
this a try instead of twinview. Now there are a couple of annoyances like not 
being able to move programs between the screens but I can live with that and 
one that just developed when I connected the DFP that I have to figure out 
where the taskbar on the CRT wants to be at the 1050 postion when I am 
running at 1600x1200 then when at the 1280x960 it disappears under the bottom 
of the monitor and I have to raise the taskbar on the DFP for it to come up 
on the CRT so I can use it never used to do that with dual CRT different 
resolutions it was always at the bottom of both screens no matter the 
resolutions on either.


# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
FontPath"/usr/local/share/fonts/truetype"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
FontPath"/var/lib/deforma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"xtrap"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xorg"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

#Logitech LX7 Cordless Optical
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "evdev"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Name"  "Logitech USB RECEIVER"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "Resolution""1200"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "nvidia"
Option  "NoLogo" "on"
Option  "NvAgp"  "3"
Option  "RenderAccel" "true"
Option  "BackingStore" "On"
Option  

Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)

2007-06-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 05:46:50PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> On Monday 25 June 2007, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > > 1) Is there a way to tell my NVidia card or xorg.conf to recognize
> > > the widescreen as my first screen?
> >
> > See the nvidia driver document:
> >
> >   /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz
> >
> > Option "TwinViewOrientation" "string"
> > Controls the relationship between the two display
> > devices when using TwinView.  Takes one of the following values:
> > "RightOf" "LeftOf" "Above" "Below" "Clone".  Please see APPENDIX I
> > for details. Default: string is NULL.
> 
> That doesn't effect it.  It changes the position, but even when the 
> monitors were swapped (as in left for right), it didn't change the 
> display numbers.
> 
> I don't mean first as in leftmost, I mean as in the display number, 
> since it seems certain things always come up on monitor #1.

just out of curiousity, which monitor is the live one when the machine
boots?

also, doesn't mouse position affect this? It certainly does in my
dual-head rig. Whichever screen had the mouse gets the window except
for some odd things (xfce config windows in particular like to show up
in the left monitor no matter what, but that could be an artifact of
xinerama, I suppose). The xscreensaver unlock dialog is always
interesting...

A


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Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)

2007-06-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 25 June 2007, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > 1) Is there a way to tell my NVidia card or xorg.conf to recognize
> > the widescreen as my first screen?
>
> See the nvidia driver document:
>
>   /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz
>
> Option "TwinViewOrientation" "string"
> Controls the relationship between the two display
> devices when using TwinView.  Takes one of the following values:
> "RightOf" "LeftOf" "Above" "Below" "Clone".  Please see APPENDIX I
> for details. Default: string is NULL.

That doesn't effect it.  It changes the position, but even when the 
monitors were swapped (as in left for right), it didn't change the 
display numbers.

I don't mean first as in leftmost, I mean as in the display number, 
since it seems certain things always come up on monitor #1.

Thanks anyway, though.

Hal


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Re: Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)

2007-06-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Hal Vaughan wrote:
> 1) Is there a way to tell my NVidia card or xorg.conf to recognize the 
> widescreen as my first screen?

See the nvidia driver document:

  /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz
 
Option "TwinViewOrientation" "string"
Controls the relationship between the two display devices
when using TwinView.  Takes one of the following values:
"RightOf" "LeftOf" "Above" "Below" "Clone".  Please see
APPENDIX I for details. Default: string is NULL.

> 2) Is there anything I can do to get an LCD monitor to work with a 
> non-standard resolution like 1312x1050?

Not to my knowledge.

Bob


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Twinview Monitor Issues (Monitor #s and Resolution)

2007-06-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
I have an NVidia GEforce 6800 with two monitors attached.  One is a 
widescreen, hooked up with a DVI cable, at 1680x1050, and the other is 
hooked up with a VGA cable and set at 1280x1024.  They are working, but 
there are two issues I'd like to resolve.

According to KDE, the CRT is #1 and the DVI is #2 (or 0 and 1 in 
xorg.conf).  I've swapped the connections on the card and tried to 
specify the monitors differently in the MetaMode option in xorg.conf, 
but it makes no difference.  I've seen a few issues with this.  For 
instance, when I'm in Konqueror and click on a folder of bookmarks, the 
drop down menu from that always appears on display 0, which is the 
older monitor.  I can understand there are some glitches and if I'm 
going to deal with them, I'd rather have the widescreen, my main 
monitor, recognized as the first screen.

The other issue is one I don't think there's a resolution for.  Using a 
vertical resolution of 1050 on the widescreen and 1024 for the vertical 
resolution of 1024 for the "regular" monitor leaves a deadspace of 26 
pixels on the regular monitor.  I know I can pan on that, but seeing 
anything on that screen move up and down as I move the cursor is very 
distracting.  Ideally, I'd like to set the resolution on that monitor 
at 1312x1050 instead of 1280x1024.  I've tried it and the monitor 
doesn't display a thing.

1) Is there a way to tell my NVidia card or xorg.conf to recognize the 
widescreen as my first screen?

2) Is there anything I can do to get an LCD monitor to work with a 
non-standard resolution like 1312x1050?

Thanks for any help!

Hal


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