Re: UDP port 1025(Blackjack)

1999-11-18 Thread Onno

Thanks for the great tip!

Regards,

Onno

At 07:31 PM 11/17/99 +, Chris Schleifer wrote:

Hi,

I don't know a lot about this stuff but I can help a little I think.

When you are using a network, ports will get opened on your machine
whenever you make a connection, this way the remote machine has
somewhere to talk to. This is probably why you are seeing ports open
during one scan and closed the next time.

Nmap uses an internal database of service to port mapping. When it says
Blackjack, it is just a guess as to what could be running on that port.
You will see things like nmap telling you Back Orifice is running on a
linux box because of this. Take whatever service nmap says with a grain
of salt. You can also do 'grep 1025 /etc/services' to do a simple check
for yourself.

But the main thing I want to suggest is to not use nmap for scanning
your machines. Use lsof instead (apt-get install lsof). Lsof is VERY
cool and useful for many things. Install it, do 'lsof -i' as root, and
it will show you exactly which ports are open, which process is using
it, which user owns the process, and more. I run 'lsof -i' after every
apt-get upgrade to quickly make sure it hasn't decided to add a server I
don't want (happened last week with the changes to netstd in potato).

Hope this helps,
Chris Schleifer


aphro wrote:
>
> During the process of closing non important ports on my new server i
> noticed it has port 1025(UDP) and the service is Blackjack according to
> nmap.  Anyone know what this is? i dont see anything in the dpkg list for
> blackjack and its not on my machine at home, and its not on my main
> server.
>
> tia
>
> nate
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Re: UDP port 1025(Blackjack)

1999-11-17 Thread Chris Schleifer
Hi,

I don't know a lot about this stuff but I can help a little I think.

When you are using a network, ports will get opened on your machine
whenever you make a connection, this way the remote machine has
somewhere to talk to. This is probably why you are seeing ports open
during one scan and closed the next time.

Nmap uses an internal database of service to port mapping. When it says
Blackjack, it is just a guess as to what could be running on that port.
You will see things like nmap telling you Back Orifice is running on a
linux box because of this. Take whatever service nmap says with a grain
of salt. You can also do 'grep 1025 /etc/services' to do a simple check
for yourself.

But the main thing I want to suggest is to not use nmap for scanning
your machines. Use lsof instead (apt-get install lsof). Lsof is VERY
cool and useful for many things. Install it, do 'lsof -i' as root, and
it will show you exactly which ports are open, which process is using
it, which user owns the process, and more. I run 'lsof -i' after every
apt-get upgrade to quickly make sure it hasn't decided to add a server I
don't want (happened last week with the changes to netstd in potato).

Hope this helps,
Chris Schleifer


aphro wrote:
> 
> During the process of closing non important ports on my new server i
> noticed it has port 1025(UDP) and the service is Blackjack according to
> nmap.  Anyone know what this is? i dont see anything in the dpkg list for
> blackjack and its not on my machine at home, and its not on my main
> server.
> 
> tia
> 
> nate
> 
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Re: UDP port 1025(Blackjack)

1999-11-17 Thread Ethan Benson

On 17/11/99 Brian May wrote:


Try fuser, in the psmisc package.

I get:

# fuser -n tcp -v 1024

USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
1024/tcp root189 f  wdm
root   1917 f  wdm
root   1924 f  xconsole

still, I am not sure why wdm or xconsole would be listening
on port 1024. I am also confused as to how three programs can
be listening on the one port:


actually i get no output for port 1024, 779 tcp is rpc.statd for nfs..


[554] [dewey:bam] ~ >netstat --tcp -a | grep 1024
tcp0  0 *:1024  *:* 
LISTEN

This is a slink computer.


i get that output too, but 1025 is owned by named.

i just did another scan and 1399 tcp cadkey-licman was open but now 
its gone again... I do not have X or xdm/wdm running at the moment.


I still cannot figure out what this udp 800 mdbs_daemon is...



Best Regards,
Ethan Benson
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Re: UDP port 1025(Blackjack)

1999-11-17 Thread Brian May
> "Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Ethan> On 16/11/99 aphro wrote:
>> During the process of closing non important ports on my new
>> server i noticed it has port 1025(UDP) and the service is
>> Blackjack according to nmap.  Anyone know what this is? i dont
>> see anything in the dpkg list for blackjack and its not on my
>> machine at home, and its not on my main server.

Ethan> I have been having a bit of trouble getting rid of all
Ethan> these open ports too, I have a unknown port tcp 779 and
Ethan> unknown, and tcp 1024 open, and it seems that every few
Ethan> times i run nmap i see a few extra weird ones open but then
Ethan> are gone a minute later.

Ethan> also have udp 777 unknown, udp 800 mdbs_daemon and, udp
Ethan> 1024 unknown, and that 1025 blackjack too.

Try fuser, in the psmisc package.

I get:

# fuser -n tcp -v 1024

 USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
1024/tcp root189 f  wdm
 root   1917 f  wdm
 root   1924 f  xconsole

still, I am not sure why wdm or xconsole would be listening
on port 1024. I am also confused as to how three programs can
be listening on the one port:

[554] [dewey:bam] ~ >netstat --tcp -a | grep 1024
tcp0  0 *:1024  *:* LISTEN  
This is a slink computer.


Re: UDP port 1025(Blackjack)

1999-11-17 Thread Ethan Benson

On 16/11/99 aphro wrote:


During the process of closing non important ports on my new server i
noticed it has port 1025(UDP) and the service is Blackjack according to
nmap.  Anyone know what this is? i dont see anything in the dpkg list for
blackjack and its not on my machine at home, and its not on my main
server.


I have been having a bit of trouble getting rid of all these open 
ports too, I have a unknown port tcp 779 and unknown, and tcp 1024 
open, and it seems that every few times i run nmap i see a few extra 
weird ones open but then are gone a minute later.


also have udp 777 unknown, udp 800 mdbs_daemon and, udp 1024 unknown, 
and that 1025 blackjack too.


I have gone though the rcS.d and rc2.d and just cannot seem to identify these.



Best Regards,
Ethan Benson
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UDP port 1025(Blackjack)

1999-11-17 Thread aphro
During the process of closing non important ports on my new server i
noticed it has port 1025(UDP) and the service is Blackjack according to
nmap.  Anyone know what this is? i dont see anything in the dpkg list for
blackjack and its not on my machine at home, and its not on my main
server.

tia

nate

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