Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE -- SOLVED
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:34:34 -0500, ntrfug wrote: > On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:21:14 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> I see no mention there to the afore mentioned NTFS-3G warning at all >> ;-) > > The NTFS-3G message was quoted in the original post of this thread. Of course, because -as far as I understood- he was mounting a NTFS formatted USB device (SanDisk U3 Cruzer Micro). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlhlme$j6s$8...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE -- SOLVED
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 11:29:12 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 03 apr 12, 15:21:14, Camaleón wrote: > > > > That's why we have to use UUID instead >:-) > > ...or LABELs. > > Kind regards, > Andrei Thank you both. Using either labels or uuids in fstab will accomplish what I was trying to do. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120404081612.1c22808a@sirius
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE -- SOLVED
On Ma, 03 apr 12, 15:21:14, Camaleón wrote: > > That's why we have to use UUID instead >:-) ...or LABELs. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE -- SOLVED
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:21:14 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > I see no mention there to the afore mentioned NTFS-3G warning at > all ;-) The NTFS-3G message was quoted in the original post of this thread. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120403173434.120ffe61@sirius
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE -- SOLVED
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 09:41:47 -0500, ntrfug wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:59:42 -0500 > ntrfug wrote: > >> For years I have been able to use external hard drives and thumb drives >> on my systems, but not since I installed Wheezy. >> > ... >> >> The problem is not limited to devices with NTFS file systems; I can't >> mount ext2 or ReiserFS devices either. > > I backup my system by exchanging the CD/DVD device for a second hard > drive, partitioned the same as my system hard drive. > > I thought I would be organized, and created entries in /etc/fstab for > each of those second-hard-drive partitions; the first was NTFS. I, umm, > don't back up every day ;) and I had forgotted about those entries. > > Whenever I inserted any removable device, the system saw it as > /dev/sdb1, looked in fstab, and tried to mount the device as NTFS. > > When I commented out the offending lines in fstab I was able to mount > removable devices normally. That's why we have to use UUID instead >:-) > Camaleón, the log excerpt was posted to the thread in my Sun, 1 Apr 2012 > 08:15:21 -0500 reply to Andrei. Thanks. But if you mean this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg00024.html I see no mention there to the afore mentioned NTFS-3G warning at all ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlf4h9$8qv$9...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE -- SOLVED
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:59:42 -0500 ntrfug wrote: > For years I have been able to use external hard drives and thumb > drives on my systems, but not since I installed Wheezy. > ... > > The problem is not limited to devices with NTFS file systems; I can't > mount ext2 or ReiserFS devices either. I backup my system by exchanging the CD/DVD device for a second hard drive, partitioned the same as my system hard drive. I thought I would be organized, and created entries in /etc/fstab for each of those second-hard-drive partitions; the first was NTFS. I, umm, don't back up every day ;) and I had forgotted about those entries. Whenever I inserted any removable device, the system saw it as /dev/sdb1, looked in fstab, and tried to mount the device as NTFS. When I commented out the offending lines in fstab I was able to mount removable devices normally. Camaleón, the log excerpt was posted to the thread in my Sun, 1 Apr 2012 08:15:21 -0500 reply to Andrei. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120403094147.3222fb2d@sirius
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:26:18 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 02:21:49PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:17:52 -0500, ntrfug wrote: >> >> > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:10:48 + (UTC) Camaleón >> > wrote: >> > >> >> It can't be the "same" message, that's for sure ;-) >> > >> > Yes, it can. >> > >> > It is. >> > >> > Exactly the same. >> >> Show us, please. >> >> I really doubt you get a message pointing to NTFS-G3 or Tuxera website >> for a volume formatted with ext2 or reiserfs. That would be something >> worth seeing :-) > > I imagine it might be possible to get this behaviour if > /proc/filesystems is suggesting ntfs-3G ahead of reiserfs and ext2. In > that case, I can well imagine NTFS-3G borking as above in such a manner > that it prevents other filesystems from being tried. (...) It wouldn't be the first time I see a filesystem (x) being detected and wanted to be mounted as (y) but that would be a completely different problem and a corner case, though it can happen. > ntrfug, could you post your /proc/filesystems here, please? @ntrfug: I'm still waiting for the requested logs >>;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jleuth$8qv$4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 02:21:49PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:17:52 -0500, ntrfug wrote: > > > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:10:48 + (UTC) Camaleón > > wrote: > > > >> It can't be the "same" message, that's for sure ;-) > > > > Yes, it can. > > > > It is. > > > > Exactly the same. > > Show us, please. > > I really doubt you get a message pointing to NTFS-G3 or Tuxera website > for a volume formatted with ext2 or reiserfs. That would be something > worth seeing :-) I imagine it might be possible to get this behaviour if /proc/filesystems is suggesting ntfs-3G ahead of reiserfs and ext2. In that case, I can well imagine NTFS-3G borking as above in such a manner that it prevents other filesystems from being tried. ntrfug, could you post your /proc/filesystems here, please? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120403122618.ga5...@darac.org.uk
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:48:27 -0500, ntrfug wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:21:49 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> Show us, please. >> >> I really doubt you get a message pointing to NTFS-G3 or Tuxera website >> for a volume formatted with ext2 or reiserfs. That would be something >> worth seeing :-) > > I HAVE shown you. Where exactly? I though your first post was about NTFS volume. > You HAVE seen it. You know more than me, then... > If you refuse to believe it, that's on you. I'm not a "believer", that's true, I rely on logs so I may have missed something, can you please point me to them? :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9rk3$r1h$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:21:49 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > Show us, please. > > I really doubt you get a message pointing to NTFS-G3 or Tuxera > website for a volume formatted with ext2 or reiserfs. That would be > something worth seeing :-) I HAVE shown you. You HAVE seen it. If you refuse to believe it, that's on you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401094827.3d96186d@sirius
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:12:59 -0500, ntrfug wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> Bug? >> >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631504 > > Thank you for that pointer. Apparently this has been an issue for a > while, and for GNOME desktops as well (which indicates to me that the > problem is somewhere in the automount process -- I can mount these > devices from a root shell). Yes. > I looked through the debian-users archive and couldn't see anyone else > using KDE complaining, but I can hardly believe I'm the only one having > this problem. AFAIK, GNOME and KDE both use FUSE for mounting these kind of volumes so they must share the same problematic. A simple search in Google confirms that point: http://goo.gl/D5iEt Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9p0q$r1h$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:17:52 -0500, ntrfug wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:10:48 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> It can't be the "same" message, that's for sure ;-) > > Yes, it can. > > It is. > > Exactly the same. Show us, please. I really doubt you get a message pointing to NTFS-G3 or Tuxera website for a volume formatted with ext2 or reiserfs. That would be something worth seeing :-) > How do you "know" otherwise? I already said... "dmesg" will tell. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9o9t$r1h$8...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > Bug? > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631504 Thank you for that pointer. Apparently this has been an issue for a while, and for GNOME desktops as well (which indicates to me that the problem is somewhere in the automount process -- I can mount these devices from a root shell). I looked through the debian-users archive and couldn't see anyone else using KDE complaining, but I can hardly believe I'm the only one having this problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401091259.2f24d9f2@sirius
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:31:02 +0100 Keith McKenzie wrote: > It's there. So if you use a root terminal, you should be able to > mount it. After that, you will need to find out why it isn't being > auto mounted, as that seems to be what you want. I already know I can mount it as root. I would like to be able to automatically mount external devices read/write as a normal user, as I have been able to do for years. There should be no need to rebuild Debian packages to do that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401090450.13348da8@sirius
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On 01/04/12 14:15, ntrfug wrote: Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882442] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk It's there. So if you use a root terminal, you should be able to mount it. After that, you will need to find out why it isn't being auto mounted, as that seems to be what you want. (If you have never mounted via root; mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f785896.5020...@gmail.com
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:10:48 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > It can't be the "same" message, that's for sure ;-) Yes, it can. It is. Exactly the same. How do you "know" otherwise? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401081752.277d81dd@sirius
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:15:22 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Just for confirmation, you get a message telling you to rebuild
> ntfs-3g when the filesystem is ext2? Can you show us the relevant
> part of /var/log/syslog when you plug the thumb drive? ('tail -f'
> helps here).
That is correct -- regardless of the filesystem -- NTFS, ext2, or
reiserfs -- I get the same message I originally posted. I was able to
use all these devices in Kubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron), which I used before
updating to Wheezy; I can still get to the NTFS thumb drive via my
Windows virtual machine.
From /var/log/syslog:
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.340138] usb 1-3: new high speed
USB device number 12 using ehci_hcd
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.484520] usb 1-3: New USB device
found, idVendor=12f7, idProduct=1e23
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.484529] usb 1-3: New USB device
strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Apr 1 07:48:31 mystem kernel: [281274.484536] usb 1-3: Product:
TRAVELDRIVE 005B
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.484541] usb 1-3: Manufacturer:
Memorex
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.484546] usb 1-3: SerialNumber:
07840A3A0571
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.485332] scsi11 : usb-storage
1-3:1.0
Apr 1 07:48:32 mysystem mtp-probe: checking bus 1, device 12:
"/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.7/usb1/1-3"
Apr 1 07:48:32 mysystem mtp-probe: bus: 1, device: 12 was not an MTP
device
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.531867] scsi 11:0:0:0:
Direct-Access Memorex TRAVELDRIVE 005B PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.815210] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
16117760 512-byte logical blocks: (8.25 GB/7.68 GiB)
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.815798] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Write Protect is off
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.815806] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode
Sense: 23 00 00 00
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.816308] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] No
Caching mode page present
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.816317] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Assuming drive cache: write through
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.820328] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] No
Caching mode page present
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.820336] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Assuming drive cache: write through
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.880139] sdb: sdb1
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882426] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] No
Caching mode page present
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882435] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Assuming drive cache: write through
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882442] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Attached SCSI removable disk
I've used Linux for 12 years now; I recently returned to the Debian
fold after seven years of using Kubuntu (the seven-year itch?).
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Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:42:28 -0500, Kevin McKinley wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> Can you post the error message you get when mounting a device with ext2 >> or reiserfs format? > > The error message is the same when trying to mount a reiserfs device. My > recollection is that it's the same for ext2 as well, and I can confirm > that later today. It can't be the "same" message, that's for sure ;-) When you have the time, send the last lines of dmesg after attaching an external device formatted with etx2 or reiserfs. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9k4o$r1h$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sb, 31 mar 12, 12:47:07, Kevin McKinley wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 + (UTC)
> Camaleón wrote:
>
> > Can you post the error message you get when mounting a device with
> > ext2 or reiserfs format?
>
> My external hard drives are elsewhere, but one of my thumb drives is
> formatted ext2. I get the same message trying to mount it.
Just for confirmation, you get a message telling you to rebuild ntfs-3g
when the filesystem is ext2? Can you show us the relevant part of
/var/log/syslog when you plug the thumb drive? ('tail -f' helps here).
Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > Can you post the error message you get when mounting a device with > ext2 or reiserfs format? The error message is the same when trying to mount a reiserfs device. My recollection is that it's the same for ext2 as well, and I can confirm that later today. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120331124228.65801c4b@sirius
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > Can you post the error message you get when mounting a device with > ext2 or reiserfs format? My external hard drives are elsewhere, but one of my thumb drives is formatted ext2. I get the same message trying to mount it. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120331124707.5d6bafbc@sirius
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:59:42 -0500, ntrfug wrote: > For years I have been able to use external hard drives and thumb drives > on my systems, but not since I installed Wheezy. > > I get the following on inserting a SanDisk thumb drive: > > "The requested operation has failed.: Error mounting: mount exited with > exit code 1: helper failed with: Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS > block devices using the external FUSE library. Either mount the volume > as root, or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated FUSE support and make it > setuid root. Please see more information at > http://tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged"; (...) Bug? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631504 > The problem is not limited to devices with NTFS file systems; I can't > mount ext2 or ReiserFS devices either. Mmm, that sounds even weirder :-) Can you post the error message you get when mounting a device with ext2 or reiserfs format? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl7ehj$4ti$1...@dough.gmane.org
Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
For years I have been able to use external hard drives and thumb drives on my systems, but not since I installed Wheezy. I get the following on inserting a SanDisk thumb drive: "The requested operation has failed.: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library. Either mount the volume as root, or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated FUSE support and make it setuid root. Please see more information at http://tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged"; I certainly hope there is another solution besides rebuilding packages. I want to be able to read/write/transfer files as my normal user. In K->Settings->System Settings->Removable Devices I checked "Enable automatic mounting of removable media", "Mount all removable media at login", and "Automatically mount removable media when attached". In the Attached Devices list of that dialog, "SanDisk U3 Cruzer Micro" is listed and "Automount on attach is checked. The problem is not limited to devices with NTFS file systems; I can't mount ext2 or ReiserFS devices either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120331115942.48cedfde@sirius
