Re: Updating the system - Debian newbie needs help
Peter Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 01-Jul-1999, Carley, Jason Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I am considering switching over from SuSE 6.1 to Debian. I guess I am an Ok, but I hope you don't misunderstand that you can't upgrade your SuSE system directly with Debian, but have to install it from scratch, renewing or manually updating the configuration. Secondly, the recommended way for staying in touch with the latest stable version is rather like (exchange with your next debian mirror) ---/etc/apt/sources.list # Next online mirror deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free non-US # Proposed updates deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian dists/proposed-updates/ --- Using other sources means not having a stable debian version. Stephan -- s-Stephan Suerken [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-Voice (+49) (6241) 92566-2 -- WWW http://www.fh-worms.de/~suerken s-Debian-related mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updating the system - Debian newbie needs help
I recently switched from SuSE 6.1 to Debian potato and I'm really happy. I like my Debian system more and more every day. I applied this distribution-switch strategy: free up a partition from SuSE and take it out from fstab to become your new root partition, download the install floppy image and make a boot floppy, download the base package plus what else you need to get you on the net and let you get the rest. In my case they were the base package, data-dumper, dpkg-ftp, perl and drv1440.bin which you already got when you made the floppy. I downloaded all these to a regular SuSE partition and then booted off the floppy and chose 'install from HD. Then I installed a minimal system by ftp and used BootMagic to let me boot both systems. Maybe fixing LILO to boot both sytems would work too but I never tried it. Alternatively, you could boot one of the systems from floppy. Finally, I started porting my configurations from SuSE to Debian by temporarily mounting various SuSE partitions. Some might argue that archiving /etc and various other parts is enough but I always seem to leave stuff behind when I switch distros. Luckily, it looks like the days of switching are over :). I think now that even better would be to get the apt stuff first and use apt as retrieval method in dselect. One final piece of advice: If you have your mind set on switching, uninstall all non-essential packages from SuSE first and resize/combine as much as possible off your SuSE partitions. Then start your new Debian system with all the partitions that you would want already created and mounted. It took me quite a bit of juggling to go from a one root partition Debian on /dev/hda 10 to my usual 4-5 partitions setup. Good LucK ! and I'm sure you won't be dissapointed. Stephan A Suerken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 01-Jul-1999, Carley, Jason Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I am considering switching over from SuSE 6.1 to Debian. I guess I am an Ok, but I hope you don't misunderstand that you can't upgrade your SuSE system directly with Debian, but have to install it from scratch, renewing or manually updating the configuration. Secondly, the recommended way for staying in touch with the latest stable version is rather like (exchange with your next debian mirror) ---/etc/apt/sources.list # Next online mirror deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free non-US # Proposed updates deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian dists/proposed-updates/ --- Using other sources means not having a stable debian version. Stephan -- s-Stephan Suerken [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-Voice (+49) (6241) 92566-2 -- WWW http://www.fh-worms.de/~suerken s-Debian-related mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- D.Damian
Re: Updating the system - Debian newbie needs help
Didi Damian wrote: Maybe fixing LILO to boot both sytems would work too but I never tried it. Alternatively, you could boot one of the systems from floppy. I boot 3 different linux partitions (Slackware, RH5.2 and Debian 2.1) and Win95 from LILO. It's a bit of a hack... I used the LILO on the RH5.2 partition to manage everything. I first mounted the slackware and debian partitions somewhere in my RH tree. The lilo.conf wants to know the location of the kernels for each partition on that partition, so I stuck symlinks into the RH tree to the kernels on the mounted slack and debian partitions in the places where the kernels would be if the slack/debian partion was mounted on root. A diagram: In my debian partition: /boot/slink-2.0.36 is the kernel In my slackware partition: /vmlinuz is the kernel In the RH partition I have the following symlinks: /boot/slink-2.0.36 - /mnt/linux/debian/boot/slink-2.0.36 /vmlinuz - /mnt/linux/slack/vmlinuz (assuming /mnt/linux/debian and /mnt/linux/slack as the mount points) Then in the lilo.conf for the RH partition I have: for debian: /boot/slink-2.0.36 for slackware: /vmlinuz With the symlinks in place and all partitions mounted, LILO can find the kernels as required. Since the paths are correct for each individual partition, LILO will be able to find the kernels it needs when you select a particular partition at boot up. Have fun! Matthew
Updating the system - Debian newbie needs help
Hi guys, I am considering switching over from SuSE 6.1 to Debian. I guess I am an average linux user but I am not really familiar with Debian's way of doing things. I am concerned to understand the process that I will need to go through to update things like my XFree installation to 3.3.3 as I have a RivaTNT card. As well as general packages before I make the jump across. I have been reading up on all of the packages and install tools but I don't really get it yet. Could someone please send me a brief run through on how to get the system up-to-date and how to keep it there. Thanks, Jason.
Re: Updating the system - Debian newbie needs help
On 01-Jul-1999, Carley, Jason Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I am considering switching over from SuSE 6.1 to Debian. I guess I am an average linux user but I am not really familiar with Debian's way of doing things. I am concerned to understand the process that I will need to go through to update things like my XFree installation to 3.3.3 as I have a RivaTNT card. As well as general packages before I make the jump across. I have been reading up on all of the packages and install tools but I don't really get it yet. Could someone please send me a brief run through on how to get the system up-to-date and how to keep it there. To install debian I can only recommend that you read the release notes. http://www.au.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/install The most convenient way to upgrade packages using debian is to use the utility apt. Once you have dselect installed choose apt as your access method. I have attached my /etc/apt/sources.list file. It attempts to install it packages from the cdrom distribution first. However if a newer version of the package is available at ftp.monash.edu.au (my local mirror) it will get the package from there and so on. The final two lines are for Xfree86 3.3.3.1 and gnome 1.0 These are not officially supported Debian packages, but show the power of apt to select the most recent version of a package available. Cheers, Pete. # Use for a local mirror - remove the ftp1 http lines for the bits # your mirror contains. # deb file:/your/mirror/here/debian stable main contrib non-free # See sources.list(5) for more information, especial # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs # The slink CD's #deb file://cdwriter/debian stable main contrib non-free non-US #deb file://mnt/princess/root/cdrom/debian stable main contrib non-free non-US #deb file://mnt/dogbert/root/cdrom/debian stable main contrib non-free non-US deb cdrom:'Debian 2.1r2 Disk 1'/ debian/dists/frozen/contrib/binary-i386/ deb cdrom:'Debian 2.1r2 Disk 1'/ debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/ deb cdrom:'Debian 2.1r2 Disk 1'/ debian/dists/frozen/non-US/binary-i386/ deb cdrom:'Debian 2.1r2 Disk 1'/ debian/dists/frozen/non-free/binary-i386/ deb cdrom:'Debian 2.1r2 Disk 2'/ debian/dists/frozen/contrib/binary-i386/ deb cdrom:'Debian 2.1r2 Disk 2'/ debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/ deb cdrom:'Debian 2.1r2 Disk 2'/ debian/dists/frozen/non-US/binary-i386/ deb cdrom:'Debian 2.1r2 Disk 2'/ debian/dists/frozen/non-free/binary-i386/ deb cdrom:Debian 2.1r2 Disk 5/ debian/dists/frozen/contrib/binary-i386/ deb cdrom:Debian 2.1r2 Disk 5/ debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/ deb cdrom:Debian 2.1r2 Disk 5/ debian/dists/frozen/non-US/binary-i386/ deb cdrom:Debian 2.1r2 Disk 5/ debian/dists/frozen/non-free/binary-i386/ # The stable dist at monash deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian stable main deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian stable contrib deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian stable non-free deb http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/distributions/debian-non-US stable non-US # upgraded X and apt deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/ # gnome 1.0 deb ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gnome/gnome-1.0/debian slink main
