Re: Upgrade to XFCE 4.2 now?

2005-05-16 Thread Matthias Kaeppler
Simon Huggins wrote:
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 04:17:57PM +0200, Matthias Kaeppler wrote:
Simon Huggins wrote:
Xfce 4.2 won't make sarge.
I know. That's why I asked if it's worth waiting for the next shift, 
because once Sarge becomes stable, it's likely that XFCE 4.2 will soon 
be in the /new/ testing branch.

Yeah sure.

Xfce has official Debian packages in experimental right now so there is
no need to use the os-works/os-cillation stuff.
Wrong. Sid (unstable) still has 4.0x. I want 4.2.x.

Um, no read what I wrote.  There are packages in _experimental_ in
Debian.
Have a look at:
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/x11/xfce4
if you still don't believe me :p
Simon.
:D Sorry.
Thanks for all the info guys, I have it up and running now.
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Upgrade to XFCE 4.2 now?

2005-05-15 Thread Matthias Kaeppler
Hi,
I guess XFCE 4.2 will not make it into Debian testing until Sarge goes 
stable?

If that is the case, how long do you think it will /roughly/ take until 
this will happen? A rough approximation would be enough, so I can decide 
whether it is worth to take the additional trouble and install from an 
unofficial repo.

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Re: Upgrade to XFCE 4.2 now?

2005-05-15 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 15 May 2005 the mental interface of
Matthias Kaeppler told:

 Hi,
 
 I guess XFCE 4.2 will not make it into Debian testing until Sarge goes stable?
 
 If that is the case, how long do you think it will /roughly/ take until this 
 will happen? A rough approximation would be enough, so I can decide whether 
 it 
 is worth to take the additional trouble and install from an unofficial repo.

# Xfce from os-cillation
deb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
deb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main

Elimar

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Re: Upgrade to XFCE 4.2 now?

2005-05-15 Thread Simon Huggins
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 03:43:23PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
 On Sun, 15 May 2005 the mental interface of
 Matthias Kaeppler told:
  I guess XFCE 4.2 will not make it into Debian testing until Sarge
  goes stable?  If that is the case, how long do you think it will
  /roughly/ take until this will happen? A rough approximation would
  be enough, so I can decide whether it is worth to take the
  additional trouble and install from an unofficial repo.

Xfce 4.2 won't make sarge.

 # Xfce from os-cillation
 deb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
 deb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main

Xfce has official Debian packages in experimental right now so there is
no need to use the os-works/os-cillation stuff.

Simon.

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Re: Upgrade to XFCE 4.2 now?

2005-05-15 Thread Matthias Kaeppler
Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2005 the mental interface of
Matthias Kaeppler told:

Hi,
I guess XFCE 4.2 will not make it into Debian testing until Sarge goes stable?
If that is the case, how long do you think it will /roughly/ take until this 
will happen? A rough approximation would be enough, so I can decide whether it 
is worth to take the additional trouble and install from an unofficial repo.

# Xfce from os-cillation
deb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
deb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
Elimar
Yes, I know os-cillation has them, but I usually don't like adding repos 
which have packages which override the default ones (I fear apt being 
broken by that).

Is there any means for telling apt that it should ignore the XFCE 
packages in the official repo and just use the ones from os-works?
I don't want to break the deps.

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Re: Upgrade to XFCE 4.2 now?

2005-05-15 Thread Matthias Kaeppler
Simon Huggins wrote:
Xfce 4.2 won't make sarge.
I know. That's why I asked if it's worth waiting for the next shift, 
because once Sarge becomes stable, it's likely that XFCE 4.2 will soon 
be in the /new/ testing branch.

Xfce has official Debian packages in experimental right now so there is
no need to use the os-works/os-cillation stuff.
Simon.
Wrong. Sid (unstable) still has 4.0x. I want 4.2.x.
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Re: Upgrade to XFCE 4.2 now?

2005-05-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matthias Kaeppler wrote:
 Yes, I know os-cillation has them, but I usually don't like adding repos
 which have packages which override the default ones (I fear apt being
 broken by that).
 
 Is there any means for telling apt that it should ignore the XFCE
 packages in the official repo and just use the ones from os-works?
 I don't want to break the deps.
 

I took a look at their repository and it is an automatic repository.
That means that they have their packages properly categorized by
architecture, distribution, and so on.  All you need to do is add
the their repository to your sources.list and then pin the packages
where you want them.

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Re: Upgrade to XFCE 4.2 now?

2005-05-15 Thread Angelina Carlton
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 04:14:04PM +0200, Matthias Kaeppler wrote:

 Is there any means for telling apt that it should ignore the XFCE 
 packages in the official repo and just use the ones from os-works?
 I don't want to break the deps.
 

create if you dont already have one, /etc/apt/prefrences with these lines:

Package: *
Pin: origin www.os-works.com
Pin-Priority: 999

Remove your debian packages, add the OS-Works sources: (testing if you
use sarge)

#xfce4 from oscillation
deb http://www.os-works.com/debian unstable main
deb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian unstable main

apt-get update
and then install xfce4 again, this time you will get the os-works
version

Other than keeping an eye on the xfce4 mailing list for anything that
might change or affect this setup it has been trouble free for as long
as I have been using it. 

 
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Re: Upgrade to XFCE 4.2 now?

2005-05-15 Thread Clive Menzies
On (15/05/05 13:45), Angelina Carlton wrote:
 On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 04:14:04PM +0200, Matthias Kaeppler wrote:
 
  Is there any means for telling apt that it should ignore the XFCE 
  packages in the official repo and just use the ones from os-works?
  I don't want to break the deps.
  
 
 create if you dont already have one, /etc/apt/prefrences with these lines:
 
 Package: *
 Pin: origin www.os-works.com
 Pin-Priority: 999
 
 Remove your debian packages, add the OS-Works sources: (testing if you
 use sarge)
 
 #xfce4 from oscillation
 deb http://www.os-works.com/debian unstable main
 deb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian unstable main
 
 apt-get update
 and then install xfce4 again, this time you will get the os-works
 version
 
 Other than keeping an eye on the xfce4 mailing list for anything that
 might change or affect this setup it has been trouble free for as long
 as I have been using it. 

Hi Matthias

xfce4.2 is in experimental (not sid) and I believe the debian maintainer
would like you to test it.  He asked me when I posted something about
using the oscillation packages; however, I'm running amd64 which doesn't
have an experimental release.

Using an alternative source and making sure you get the corresponding
packages:  I just put the sources in after the debian mirror lines and
'aptitude update' collected the latest packages.

Regards

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Re: Upgrade to XFCE 4.2 now?

2005-05-15 Thread Simon Huggins
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 04:17:57PM +0200, Matthias Kaeppler wrote:
 Simon Huggins wrote:
 Xfce 4.2 won't make sarge.
 I know. That's why I asked if it's worth waiting for the next shift, 
 because once Sarge becomes stable, it's likely that XFCE 4.2 will soon 
 be in the /new/ testing branch.

Yeah sure.

 Xfce has official Debian packages in experimental right now so there is
 no need to use the os-works/os-cillation stuff.
 Wrong. Sid (unstable) still has 4.0x. I want 4.2.x.

Um, no read what I wrote.  There are packages in _experimental_ in
Debian.

Have a look at:
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/x11/xfce4
if you still don't believe me :p

Simon.

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