Re: Version To Use? (2)
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 10:28:26AM -0800, John Floren wrote: > So, I should just use the new release? Remember, my computer is really > slow, I could only download with a 56K modem, and I can't download > directly to the intended computer. Also, exactly how large is the I downloaded a net install cd (about 100M) over the internet and let apt-get and dselect get the rest of a minimal installation to start with. That option isn't really a good one though if the computer you're installing it to isn't going to be online. For that it would be better to purchase CDs, either that or purchase a modem for it! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version To Use? (2)
On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 12:59, Christophe Courtois wrote: > > You seem to miss the point, or so I understand it. I want to > > download the distribution on a DIFFERENT computer, burn a > > If you have only a 56k modem, you should better buy the CDs. I don't > know where you live, but for example Ikarios.com sells them for almost > nothing (10) from France. > I must say that I agree with Christophe completely. I downloaded the first Linux distro I ever installed over a 56k connection (It was Mandrake 1.0 back in about 1997). The FTP session took roughly 36 hours. Woody will take considerably longer, and I can only say that if you MUST download to install then you should DL the minimal installation floppy images and use apt-get to add ONLY the packages you need. When I installed woody, I ordered the then unofficial CD set from the computerhelperguy (see the Debian CD sources webpage). The 5 CD set (this was Jan of 2001) cost me US$20 and arrived about 4 days later. I seriously doubt that I could have downloaded 5 isos in 4 days over my then-56k connection. The current official CD images set is 7 isos x roughly 650 MB/each = roughly 4.5 GB. I don't regard that as a practical download over a dialup. Think about it. Best regards, ninewands signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Version To Use? (2)
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 10:28:26AM -0800, John Floren wrote: > > > So, I should just use the new release? Remember, my computer is really > slow, I could only download with a 56K modem, and I can't download > directly to the intended computer. Also, exactly how large is the > current release? I don't want to spend _too_ long downloading it :-) > Thanks, > >From a Debian newbie > If the computer doesn't have a network connection, I suspect that you would be better off purchasing CDs. The full set for Debian 3.0 is 7 CDs, which is probably something > 3 GB. You probably don't need them all, but it would be hard to determine which ones you really need in advance. Even downloading to another computer and burning a few CDs would be a real pain with a 56K modem. If the target computer is networked, it is pretty simple to install the base files and use apt-get or dselect to add whatever additional packages you need. Version 2.2 is slightly smaller, but not enough to justify its installation, IMHO. Linux Central has the 3.0 CD set for $14.95, which to me beats downloading several gigabytes over a modem connection. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version To Use? (2)
Hi John On Sunday 17 November 2002 10:57 am, John Floren wrote: [snip] > You seem to miss the point, or so I understand it. I want to download > the distribution on a DIFFERENT computer, burn a installation CD, http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ Explains how to build ISO images for the various flavours of Debian. > and > install it on my old computer. The old computer doesn't have a modem > worth speaking of, as it has an external 26K modem, which I don't think > would be very good for this, unless I used it to download the base > system and then get all the other stuff with my faster computer. Do you have network cards in both machines ? Can you use the faster computer as a proxy ? Alternatively, pre-burnt CDs are available pretty cheaply, from about $5 to $20 depending on where you get them from and how many packages you want in the bundle - the full distribution is about 7 CDs now, iirc. Whether or not you think this is worth it depends on how much your time is worth to you, but it's another option you might consider: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ - Derek > > Am I making sense? > I hope so. > Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version To Use? (2)
> You seem to miss the point, or so I understand it. I want to > download the distribution on a DIFFERENT computer, burn a If you have only a 56k modem, you should better buy the CDs. I don't know where you live, but for example Ikarios.com sells them for almost nothing (10¤) from France. -- Christophe Courtois - Ostwald, Alsace, France http://www.courtois.cc - Clé PGP : 0F33E837 -- A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so good. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version To Use? (2)
On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 10:46, sean finney wrote: > hiya, > > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 10:28:26AM -0800, John Floren wrote: > > So, I should just use the new release? Remember, my computer is really > > slow, I could only download with a 56K modem, and I can't download > > directly to the intended computer. Also, exactly how large is the > > current release? I don't want to spend _too_ long downloading it :-) > > Thanks, > > like i said, you can get away with downloading as little as possible > by finding the appropriate root.bin and rescue.bin images off of debian's > site. the floppy install will let you choose everything else that you > want, and won't download any more than what's needed, so if you have a > slow net connection, that's definitely the path to take. > > --sean You seem to miss the point, or so I understand it. I want to download the distribution on a DIFFERENT computer, burn a installation CD, and install it on my old computer. The old computer doesn't have a modem worth speaking of, as it has an external 26K modem, which I don't think would be very good for this, unless I used it to download the base system and then get all the other stuff with my faster computer. Am I making sense? I hope so. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version To Use? (2)
hiya, On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 10:28:26AM -0800, John Floren wrote: > So, I should just use the new release? Remember, my computer is really > slow, I could only download with a 56K modem, and I can't download > directly to the intended computer. Also, exactly how large is the > current release? I don't want to spend _too_ long downloading it :-) > Thanks, like i said, you can get away with downloading as little as possible by finding the appropriate root.bin and rescue.bin images off of debian's site. the floppy install will let you choose everything else that you want, and won't download any more than what's needed, so if you have a slow net connection, that's definitely the path to take. --sean msg13518/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Version To Use? (2)
So, I should just use the new release? Remember, my computer is really slow, I could only download with a 56K modem, and I can't download directly to the intended computer. Also, exactly how large is the current release? I don't want to spend _too_ long downloading it :-) Thanks, >From a Debian newbie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
