Re: WARNING: Stay off Sid /lib upgrades!, more

2011-06-16 Thread David Baron
On Wednesday 13 Sivan 5771 17:55:56 you wrote:
 Since this is now a mixed-up system (until Sid's maintainers get stuff
 together, completely, responsibly (posting defective /lib upgrades is
 inexcusable because of the mess made for us Debian Sid users!), there may
 still be problems, i.e. another package or two to downgrade.
 
 Problem 1: Trying a normal synaptic upgrade of some programs, I got errors
 that UTF8 could not be converted to latin1... and it aborted. Apt-get does
 work (in a non-X terminal) because I did that with the KDE stuff. So what
 package needs be up/down-graded to fix the character conversions?
 
 Hint: reportbug-ng yields messages like:
 QIconvCodec::convertFromUnicode: using Latin-1 for conversion, iconv failed
 for BOM: Bad file descriptor QIconvCodec::convertFromUnicode: using
 Latin-1 for conversion, iconv_open failed QIconvCodec::convertToUnicode:
 using Latin-1 for conversion, iconv_open failed

So I do not know. Not having synaptic working is not nice but I guess there 
are alternative including (yipes!) CLI.

Also, no man pages will display!

These errors are confusing, however. The iconv stuff comes from libc6. The 
gconv conversion .so's are from testing to sid are ... identical. All of them.

So what am I missing here?


Re: WARNING: Stay off Sid /lib upgrades!, more

2011-06-16 Thread Heddle Weaver
On 17 June 2011 03:37, David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote:

 **

 On Wednesday 13 Sivan 5771 17:55:56 you wrote:

  Since this is now a mixed-up system (until Sid's maintainers get stuff

  together, completely, responsibly (posting defective /lib upgrades is

  inexcusable because of the mess made for us Debian Sid users!), there may

  still be problems, i.e. another package or two to downgrade.

 

  Problem 1: Trying a normal synaptic upgrade of some programs, I got
 errors

  that UTF8 could not be converted to latin1... and it aborted. Apt-get
 does

  work (in a non-X terminal) because I did that with the KDE stuff. So what

  package needs be up/down-graded to fix the character conversions?

 

  Hint: reportbug-ng yields messages like:

  QIconvCodec::convertFromUnicode: using Latin-1 for conversion, iconv
 failed

  for BOM: Bad file descriptor QIconvCodec::convertFromUnicode: using

  Latin-1 for conversion, iconv_open failed QIconvCodec::convertToUnicode:

  using Latin-1 for conversion, iconv_open failed


 So I do not know. Not having synaptic working is not nice but I guess there
 are alternative including (yipes!) CLI.


 Also, no man pages will display!


 These errors are confusing, however. The iconv stuff comes from libc6. The
 gconv conversion .so's are from testing to sid are ... identical. All of
 them.


 So what am I missing here?


Going to the aptitude cli or ncurses interface might yield something
profitable.
There is an app or x-term that doesn't accept unicode gracefully, but I
can't remember which.
I'd check the /etc/apt/sources.list for discrepancies there also, if you've
recently, or even not so recently jumped a distribution.
The read-outs at the bottom of the aptitude ncurses interface are useful in
resolving incompatibilities I've found.
Regards,

Weaver.
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