Re: Re[2]: What's the state of gnome on debian ?

1998-07-07 Thread Joey Hess
Havoc Pennington wrote:
 Gnome will work with a non-compliant window manager, it's just that Gnome
 compliance will eventually give you extra-cool features. Right now it
 lets you use the buggy pager applet and some more minor things, so it's
 not too exciting.

Hmm since wmaker 0.16 is gnome complient does that mean the gnome pager will
work with it? That'd be useful.

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Re: Re[2]: What's the state of gnome on debian ?

1998-07-07 Thread Havoc Pennington

On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Joey Hess wrote:
 
 Hmm since wmaker 0.16 is gnome complient does that mean the gnome pager will
 work with it? That'd be useful.
 

I don't know about wmaker in particular, but in theory I guess the answer
is yes. There's a big gap between theory and practice though... ;-)

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Re: What's the state of gnome on debian ?

1998-07-06 Thread Shaleh
 Talking about enlightenment, can you enlighten me on a off-topic
 question?
 
 What does it mean something to be GNOME compliant?

GNOME COMPLIANCE in the window manager sense means that the window
manager and the various GNOME apps (mostly the panel) can set hints that
each other are able to understand.  For a better explanation read about
it on www.gnome.org.  I do not claim to know much more than that.  While
I do package enlightenment and I do talk to Raster fairly often I do not
care for or run GNOME.


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Re[2]: What's the state of gnome on debian ?

1998-07-06 Thread Bob Bernstein
Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The current release .20 of GNOME is waiting in Incoming (things seem
 slow getting into slink).  You can get it from the maintainer's site --
 www.jimpick.com.  I package Imlib and it too is waiting in Incoming. 
 You can get it from www.livenet.net/~shaleh/software.

Hmmm...I feel like offering a reminder that two of the .20 tarballs will not
compile without surgery: in utils one must get rid of gdiskfree, and in admin
get rid of gxsnmp. At least that's been mine, and several other's experience.
I understand there's a fixed-up version of gxsmnp in the works, and that the
gdiskfree problem is known and may have been fixed in the cvs tree. The latter
however AFAIK, is still not open for anon download.

I too probably could benefit from reading up on the 'window-manager
compliance' issue. I seem to be runnng the panel here with AfterStep 1.4.5 (I
think that's the version g) with no problems other than the bugginess of
some of the Gnome applets.


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Re: Re[2]: What's the state of gnome on debian ?

1998-07-06 Thread Havoc Pennington

On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Bob Bernstein wrote:
 
 Hmmm...I feel like offering a reminder that two of the .20 tarballs will not
 compile without surgery: in utils one must get rid of gdiskfree, and in admin
 get rid of gxsnmp. At least that's been mine, and several other's experience.
 I understand there's a fixed-up version of gxsmnp in the works, and that the
 gdiskfree problem is known and may have been fixed in the cvs tree. The latter
 however AFAIK, is still not open for anon download.


AnonCVS just came back up; give it a try. You may need to use a new server
name, like anoncvs.gnome.org. Do be nice to the server though, it's also
the Debian web server and some other stuff.

For compilation I recommend make -k. ;-)
 
 I too probably could benefit from reading up on the 'window-manager
 compliance' issue. I seem to be runnng the panel here with AfterStep 1.4.5 (I
 think that's the version g) with no problems other than the bugginess of
 some of the Gnome applets.
 

Gnome will work with a non-compliant window manager, it's just that Gnome
compliance will eventually give you extra-cool features. Right now it
lets you use the buggy pager applet and some more minor things, so it's
not too exciting.

Havoc Pennington  http://pobox.com/~hp



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Re: What's the state of gnome on debian ?

1998-07-05 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella
Shaleh writes:
   Another question would be which are the debian gnome compliant
   window-managers ?
  
  I expect a new verion of window maker (.16) and icewm to be coming into
  slink real soon.  Enlightenment will be GNOME compliant and will be in
  Debian as soon as it is released as version .14.  (I package this too)
 

Talking about enlightenment, can you enlighten me on a off-topic
question?

What does it mean something to be GNOME compliant?

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What's the state of gnome on debian ?

1998-07-03 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
Hi,

I am working on a project that uses gtk+. I need some widgets that are
found in gnome. However, I was unable to compile myself the gnome. 

Is the gnome available for hamm ? Or slik ? If for slik, can I install
gnome on a hamm system ? 

Another question would be which are the debian gnome compliant
window-managers ?

TIA,

Ionutz


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Re: What's the state of gnome on debian ?

1998-07-03 Thread Shaleh
Ionut Borcoman at debian wrote:
 Is the gnome available for hamm ? Or slik ? If for slik, can I install
 gnome on a hamm system ?

The current release .20 of GNOME is waiting in Incoming (things seem
slow getting into slink).  You can get it from the maintainer's site --
www.jimpick.com.  I package Imlib and it too is waiting in Incoming. 
You can get it from www.livenet.net/~shaleh/software.

 Another question would be which are the debian gnome compliant
 window-managers ?

I expect a new verion of window maker (.16) and icewm to be coming into
slink real soon.  Enlightenment will be GNOME compliant and will be in
Debian as soon as it is released as version .14.  (I package this too)


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