Re: What causes single user boot? (last stereogram)

1998-10-07 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Kent West wrote:
 At 09:10 PM 10/6/1998 +1300, Michael Beattie wrote:
 On Mon, 5 Oct 1998,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
 [stereogram .sig]
 
 Now that, folks, has class.. Cool Ray :)
 
 I kept focusing on the row with Os in it and never could see anything.
 Finally I gave up on that and just looked at the body like I would any
 other stereogram. Weigh Kule!

 Stereograms really aren't that complicated. I made a web page about them
at work. I'll copy it and put it up on my web site at home before the end
of the week. It'll be at http://www.tir.com/~sorceror/;.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles   (248) 377-7735  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  eeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Re: What causes single user boot?

1998-10-06 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Christopher D. Judd wrote:
  Make sure the sixth field in your /etc/fstab is set to 0(zero) or
  empty for removable media. From 'man 5 fstab'
[...] 
  Sure enough, that fixed it.  Odd that this problem only showed up
 when I upgraded to Hamm, though.  Thanks for the tip.

 Same here. I have an external removeable-media drive that, in the fstab,
is nominally ext2. If I boot with an msdos-formatted cartridge, however, I
get the 'Ctrl-D' prompt. This didn't happen until I upgraded to Hamm. Now
that I know the fix I'll be sure to update my fstab.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles   (248)377-7735   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Free Stereogram!
Try to make the two Os in the next row look like three:
  OO
n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n
ffffffffffffff
e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e
aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a
rrrrrrrrrrrrrr
r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r



Re: What causes single user boot?

1998-10-06 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:

  Sincerely,
 
  Ray Ingles   (248)377-7735   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free Stereogram!
 Try to make the two Os in the next row look like three:
   OO
 n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n
 ffffffffffffff
 e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e
 aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a
 rrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r


Now that, folks, has class.. Cool Ray :)


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Re: What causes single user boot?

1998-10-06 Thread Kent West
At 09:10 PM 10/6/1998 +1300, Michael Beattie wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:

  Sincerely,
 
  Ray Ingles   (248)377-7735   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free Stereogram!
 Try to make the two Os in the next row look like three:
   OO
 n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n
 ffffffffffffff
 e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e
 aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a
 rrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r


Now that, folks, has class.. Cool Ray :)


I kept focusing on the row with Os in it and never could see anything.
Finally I gave up on that and just looked at the body like I would any
other stereogram. Weigh Kule!


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Re: What causes single user boot?

1998-10-02 Thread Christopher D. Judd
 *- Christopher D. Judd wrote about Re: What causes single user boot?
 | 
 |This happens on my system since upgrading to Hamm.  The problem seems
 | to be that fsck -A tries to check /fd0 (since I have entries for /fd0 in
 | fsab) and fails since no disk is in the drive.  If that is the case then
 | the FSCKFIX=yes won't help.  I have't had time to address this issue yet.
 | Changing the /etc/fstab entries or the startup script may be necessary.
 | 
 | -Chris
 |  
 
 Make sure the sixth field in your /etc/fstab is set to 0(zero) or
 empty for removable media. From 'man 5 fstab'
 
The sixth field, (fs_passno), is used by the fsck(8)  pro­
gram to determine the order in which filesystem checks are
done at reboot time.  The root filesystem should be speci­
fied  with  a fs_passno of 1, and other filesystems should
have a fs_passno of 2.  Filesystems within a drive will be
checked  sequentially, but filesystems on different drives
will be checked at the same time  to  utilize  parallelism
available in the hardware.  If the sixth field is not pre­
sent or zero, a value of zero is returned  and  fsck  will
assume that the filesystem does not need to be checked.
 
 

 Sure enough, that fixed it.  Odd that this problem only showed up
when I upgraded to Hamm, though.  Thanks for the tip.

-Chris

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Re: What causes single user boot?

1998-10-02 Thread Andy Spiegl
According to Miquel van Smoorenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 2. A filesystem check failed because there were serious errors and
the system wants you to run fsck manually
It is not 1 and 3 so it must be 2.  That sounds reasonable, because
the operator (who had no idea what he was doing) read something
about file system errors to us.

 If it was (2), you can prevent that by setting FSCKFIX=yes
 in /etc/default/rcS. It will forcibly check all file systems and
 repair them even if there are serious errors. This might result in
 dataloss, but usually there isn't anything else you can do even
 if you do run the fsck manually.
Great!  Thanks so much for that!!!
 Andy.

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What causes single user boot?

1998-10-01 Thread Andy Spiegl
Hi!

I've got a webserver which is running constantly.  A few days ago
we had to reboot it, because of a SCSI problem with the JAZ drive.
(side note: can you imagine the load went up to 115 still growing!?)

Well, after the reboot the system stopped at the prompt:
Press Ctrl-D or give root password.

I wonder what could have caused this?  This is a huge problem,
because the computer is many kilometers away and administered
only over the net.  It was tedious to find someone up there to
resolve this.  That's why I would really like to find out what
caused this and how I can avoid it in the future.

BTW: running Hamm incl.all updates

Thanks a lot in advance for any hint or pointer!
 Andy.

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Re: What causes single user boot?

1998-10-01 Thread Jens Ritter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Spiegl) writes:

 Hi!
 
 I've got a webserver which is running constantly.  A few days ago
 we had to reboot it, because of a SCSI problem with the JAZ drive.
 (side note: can you imagine the load went up to 115 still growing!?)
 
 Well, after the reboot the system stopped at the prompt:
 Press Ctrl-D or give root password.
 
 I wonder what could have caused this?  This is a huge problem,
 because the computer is many kilometers away and administered
 only over the net.  It was tedious to find someone up there to
 resolve this.  That's why I would really like to find out what
 caused this and how I can avoid it in the future.
 
 BTW: running Hamm incl.all updates

from slink?

Try downgrading modutils (far guess: it was broken a week ago).

You can't really tell what caused this, without seeing the messages
from bootstrap.

HTH,

Jens
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Re: What causes single user boot?

1998-10-01 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!

I've got a webserver which is running constantly.  A few days ago
we had to reboot it, because of a SCSI problem with the JAZ drive.
(side note: can you imagine the load went up to 115 still growing!?)

Well, after the reboot the system stopped at the prompt:
Press Ctrl-D or give root password.

Can be 3 things:

1. You turned on sulogin on boot in /etc/default/rcS
2. A filesystem check failed because there were serious errors and
   the system wants you to run fsck manually
3. A filesystem check failed because the driver for a disk
   (say a SCSI driver module) wasn't loaded.

If it was (2), you can prevent that by setting FSCKFIX=yes
in /etc/default/rcS. It will forcibly check all file systems and
repair them even if there are serious errors. This might result in
dataloss, but usually there isn't anything else you can do even
if you do run the fsck manually.

The cause was undoubtedly on the screen, you should have asked the
operator to scroll back with SHIFT+pageup and write down all
messages

Mike.
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Re: What causes single user boot?

1998-10-01 Thread Christopher D. Judd
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Andy Spiegl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I've got a webserver which is running constantly.  A few days ago
 we had to reboot it, because of a SCSI problem with the JAZ drive.
 (side note: can you imagine the load went up to 115 still growing!?)
 
 Well, after the reboot the system stopped at the prompt:
 Press Ctrl-D or give root password.
 
 Can be 3 things:
 
 1. You turned on sulogin on boot in /etc/default/rcS
 2. A filesystem check failed because there were serious errors and
the system wants you to run fsck manually
 3. A filesystem check failed because the driver for a disk
(say a SCSI driver module) wasn't loaded.
 
 If it was (2), you can prevent that by setting FSCKFIX=yes
 in /etc/default/rcS. It will forcibly check all file systems and
 repair them even if there are serious errors. This might result in
 dataloss, but usually there isn't anything else you can do even
 if you do run the fsck manually.
 

   This happens on my system since upgrading to Hamm.  The problem seems
to be that fsck -A tries to check /fd0 (since I have entries for /fd0 in
fsab) and fails since no disk is in the drive.  If that is the case then
the FSCKFIX=yes won't help.  I have't had time to address this issue yet.
Changing the /etc/fstab entries or the startup script may be necessary.

-Chris
 
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Re: What causes single user boot?

1998-10-01 Thread servis
*- Christopher D. Judd wrote about Re: What causes single user boot?
| 
|This happens on my system since upgrading to Hamm.  The problem seems
| to be that fsck -A tries to check /fd0 (since I have entries for /fd0 in
| fsab) and fails since no disk is in the drive.  If that is the case then
| the FSCKFIX=yes won't help.  I have't had time to address this issue yet.
| Changing the /etc/fstab entries or the startup script may be necessary.
| 
| -Chris
|  

Make sure the sixth field in your /etc/fstab is set to 0(zero) or
empty for removable media. From 'man 5 fstab'

   The sixth field, (fs_passno), is used by the fsck(8)  pro­
   gram to determine the order in which filesystem checks are
   done at reboot time.  The root filesystem should be speci­
   fied  with  a fs_passno of 1, and other filesystems should
   have a fs_passno of 2.  Filesystems within a drive will be
   checked  sequentially, but filesystems on different drives
   will be checked at the same time  to  utilize  parallelism
   available in the hardware.  If the sixth field is not pre­
   sent or zero, a value of zero is returned  and  fsck  will
   assume that the filesystem does not need to be checked.


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