Re: Wheezy-beta3 kde install.
There are 3 solutions, here. The first one is to install KDE, LXDE or XFCE at install time. To achieve this, you have to go to installation options, at boot time. I do not remember the exact name, maybe advanced... Here, you will find things like automated install, expert install, their GUI variants, and alternative desktop environment. The last one is a sub-menu which will allow you to choose a different DE than gnome. The second, installation time again, is to choose to *NOT* install desktop environment when the installer ask you which package you want to install. After that, you will have to install what you want in command line (using apt-get or aptitude, depending on your preferences). This is my usual install process, removing everything, then going into aptitude, disabling auto-install or recommended packages (so many useless things there...) and adding my usual tools. Because I do not use a classic DE, this is easier for me than to remove all crap they install, even more since aptitude does not auto-remove suggested packages marked as automatic (and so makes it harder to have a clean system with only used packages). The last one is when you have an existing installation. Go on a tty, kill gdm (and more generally, X server), then, remove gnome* to install what you want. Removing gnome* can be made by the aptitude ncurses (easier imho), or both aptitude and apt-get command lines. Each of those methods have their advantages: 1: easier when you do not really want a highly customized installation 2: the longer way, but let you install only things you are almost sure to install 3: allow you to correct an error you did at installation time If you need more details, just ask again. Hope it helps. Le 14.11.2012 05:34, L V Gandhi a écrit : I downloaded wheezy beta3 kde cd and installed. But i got gnome desktop. How to install KDE and remove gnome safely. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5d755ecc8d5f34b46433c9307cf70...@neutralite.org
Re: Wheezy-beta3 kde install.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 08:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 10:04 +0530, L V Gandhi wrote: I downloaded wheezy beta3 kde cd and installed. But i got gnome desktop. How to install KDE and remove gnome safely. Simply install KDE with Synaptic, apt-get or what ever you like and then simply remove GNOME. Simply removing GNOME won't cause inconsistencies, but maybe you have to remove a lot of packages manually, since removing meta-packages won't remove network-manager, evolution, gcalctool etc., so you better don't install GNOME in the first place. I agree that we shouldn't install GNOME to a Linux anymore. Upstream forces hard dependencies to PA and systemd, big intransparent buggy blobs. I bet Debian soon or later will switch to systemd too. Current Evolution 3.6 can't share Emails with e.g. Evolution 3.2.3, GNOME nowadays is crap. A long time ago I switched to Xfce4, unfortunately I can't use it's maildir with other maildir compatible MUAs. Evolution's maildir ;). I did not want to install GNOME. That is why I downloaded KDE cd. But to my surprice, it installed GNOME not KDE. -- L V Gandhi
Re: Wheezy-beta3 kde install.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:59 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: There are 3 solutions, here. The first one is to install KDE, LXDE or XFCE at install time. To achieve this, you have to go to installation options, at boot time. I do not remember the exact name, maybe advanced... Here, you will find things like automated install, expert install, their GUI variants, and alternative desktop environment. The last one is a sub-menu which will allow you to choose a different DE than gnome. The second, installation time again, is to choose to *NOT* install desktop environment when the installer ask you which package you want to install. After that, you will have to install what you want in command line (using apt-get or aptitude, depending on your preferences). This is my usual install process, removing everything, then going into aptitude, disabling auto-install or recommended packages (so many useless things there...) and adding my usual tools. Because I do not use a classic DE, this is easier for me than to remove all crap they install, even more since aptitude does not auto-remove suggested packages marked as automatic (and so makes it harder to have a clean system with only used packages). The last one is when you have an existing installation. Go on a tty, kill gdm (and more generally, X server), then, remove gnome* to install what you want. Removing gnome* can be made by the aptitude ncurses (easier imho), or both aptitude and apt-get command lines. Each of those methods have their advantages: 1: easier when you do not really want a highly customized installation 2: the longer way, but let you install only things you are almost sure to install 3: allow you to correct an error you did at installation time If you need more details, just ask again. Hope it helps. Le 14.11.2012 05:34, L V Gandhi a écrit : I downloaded wheezy beta3 kde cd and installed. But i got gnome desktop. How to install KDE and remove gnome safely. I have already installed KDE. Now how to remove GNOME with out disturbing KDE? -- L V Gandhi
Re: Wheezy-beta3 kde install.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Stephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.netwrote: sudo apt-get install kde-full ** ** *From:* L V Gandhi [mailto:lvgl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:35 PM *To:* Debian Users ML *Subject:* Wheezy-beta3 kde install. ** ** I downloaded wheezy beta3 kde cd and installed. But i got gnome desktop. How to install KDE and remove gnome safely. Installed already KDE. How to remove GNOME Without disturbing KDE? ** ** -- L V Gandhi
Re: Wheezy-beta3 kde install.
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 19:55 +0530, L V Gandhi wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:59 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: There are 3 solutions, here. The first one is to install KDE, LXDE or XFCE at install time. To achieve this, you have to go to installation options, at boot time. I do not remember the exact name, maybe advanced... Here, you will find things like automated install, expert install, their GUI variants, and alternative desktop environment. The last one is a sub-menu which will allow you to choose a different DE than gnome. The second, installation time again, is to choose to *NOT* install desktop environment when the installer ask you which package you want to install. After that, you will have to install what you want in command line (using apt-get or aptitude, depending on your preferences). This is my usual install process, removing everything, then going into aptitude, disabling auto-install or recommended packages (so many useless things there...) and adding my usual tools. Because I do not use a classic DE, this is easier for me than to remove all crap they install, even more since aptitude does not auto-remove suggested packages marked as automatic (and so makes it harder to have a clean system with only used packages). The last one is when you have an existing installation. Go on a tty, kill gdm (and more generally, X server), then, remove gnome* to install what you want. Removing gnome* can be made by the aptitude ncurses (easier imho), or both aptitude and apt-get command lines. Each of those methods have their advantages: 1: easier when you do not really want a highly customized installation 2: the longer way, but let you install only things you are almost sure to install 3: allow you to correct an error you did at installation time If you need more details, just ask again. Hope it helps. Le 14.11.2012 05:34, L V Gandhi a écrit : I downloaded wheezy beta3 kde cd and installed. But i got gnome desktop. How to install KDE and remove gnome safely. I have already installed KDE. Now how to remove GNOME with out disturbing KDE? You can try to remove everything that has to do with GNOME. You'll be informed, if removing a package would remove dependent packages too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1352910896.2050.43.camel@precise
Wheezy-beta3 kde install.
I downloaded wheezy beta3 kde cd and installed. But i got gnome desktop. How to install KDE and remove gnome safely. -- L V Gandhi
Re: Wheezy-beta3 kde install.
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 10:04 +0530, L V Gandhi wrote: I downloaded wheezy beta3 kde cd and installed. But i got gnome desktop. How to install KDE and remove gnome safely. Simply install KDE with Synaptic, apt-get or what ever you like and then simply remove GNOME. Simply removing GNOME won't cause inconsistencies, but maybe you have to remove a lot of packages manually, since removing meta-packages won't remove network-manager, evolution, gcalctool etc., so you better don't install GNOME in the first place. I agree that we shouldn't install GNOME to a Linux anymore. Upstream forces hard dependencies to PA and systemd, big intransparent buggy blobs. I bet Debian soon or later will switch to systemd too. Current Evolution 3.6 can't share Emails with e.g. Evolution 3.2.3, GNOME nowadays is crap. A long time ago I switched to Xfce4, unfortunately I can't use it's maildir with other maildir compatible MUAs. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1352878987.2103.16.camel@precise
Re: Wheezy-beta3 kde install.
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 08:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 10:04 +0530, L V Gandhi wrote: I downloaded wheezy beta3 kde cd and installed. But i got gnome desktop. How to install KDE and remove gnome safely. Simply install KDE with Synaptic, apt-get or what ever you like and then simply remove GNOME. Simply removing GNOME won't cause inconsistencies, but maybe you have to remove a lot of packages manually, since removing meta-packages won't remove network-manager, evolution, gcalctool etc., so you better don't install GNOME in the first place. I agree that we shouldn't install GNOME to a Linux anymore. Upstream forces hard dependencies to PA and systemd, big intransparent buggy blobs. I bet Debian soon or later will switch to systemd too. Current Evolution 3.6 can't share Emails with e.g. Evolution 3.2.3, GNOME nowadays is crap. A long time ago I switched to Xfce4, unfortunately I can't use it's maildir with other maildir compatible MUAs. Evolution's maildir ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1352879110.2103.17.camel@precise