Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-11 Thread Darren Baginski


12.07.2012, 00:36, "Martin Steigerwald" :
> Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Darren Baginski:
>

> I tried that with the ThinkPad T520 here and failed back then.
>
> But then I missed the modprobe efivars and efibootmgr steps. I understand
> the first one, but what do you mean by remove/edit boot entries with
> `efibootmgr -B -b N`?
>

`efibootmgr -B -b N `
is used to delete boot entries at the uefi boot list, something like it was 
boot from c: or boot from d:
For some reason managing non-windows boot entries is not possible/limited from 
the UEFI BIOS itself.
Therefore you need to use efibootmgr to add/edit/remove those entries.
I have to delete Windows boot entry
`efibootmgr` without parameters shows UEFI boot entries like
Boot* Windows
Boot0001* Debian1
and then delete Windows boot entry
 `efibootmgr -B -b Boot`
after that Debian booted just fine.


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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Darren Baginski:
> Hi list!

Hi Darren,

> Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more par
> ticular. While installing I faced some issues.
> Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is 
> BIOS or UEFI and installs grub-pc,
> while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
> One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
> After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running 
> `grub-install --bootloader-id=debian` 
> you have to run
> `modprobe efivars`
> `efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
> and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`
> 
> I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive s
> uch functionality should be intergrated in to the Debian installer.
> My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help 
> ?  

I tried that with the ThinkPad T520 here and failed back then.

But then I missed the modprobe efivars and efibootmgr steps. I understand 
the first one, but what do you mean by remove/edit boot entries with 
`efibootmgr -B -b N`?

I might try again to switch this machine to GPT + UEFI.

Thanks,
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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-11 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Jerome BENOIT  wrote:
> On 11/07/12 09:19, Tom H wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Jerome BENOIT
>> wrote:
>>> On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more
>>>> particular.
>>>> While installing I faced some issues.
>>>> Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is
>>>> BIOS or UEFI and installs grub-pc,
>>>> while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
>>>> One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
>>>> After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running
>>>> `grub-install --bootloader-id=debian`
>>>> you have to run
>>>> `modprobe efivars`
>>>> `efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
>>>> and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`
>>>>
>>>> I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive
>>>> such
>>>> functionality should be intergrated
>>>> in to the Debian installer.
>>>> My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?
>>>
>>> There is actually a discussion about it on the debian-devel list.
>>
>> Please bottom-post.
>>
>> That discussion isn't about UEFI but about UEFI's Secure Boot feature.
>
> ``EFI and Secure Boot'' precisely.

It's also about Debian... :(


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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-11 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 11/07/12 09:19, Tom H wrote:

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Jerome BENOIT  wrote:

On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:


Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more
particular.
While installing I faced some issues.
Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is
BIOS or UEFI and installs grub-pc,
while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running
`grub-install --bootloader-id=debian`
you have to run
`modprobe efivars`
`efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`

I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such
functionality should be intergrated
in to the Debian installer.
My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?


There is actually a discussion about it on the debian-devel list.


Please bottom-post.

That discussion isn't about UEFI but about UEFI's Secure Boot feature.


``EFI and Secure Boot'' precisely.

Jerome






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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-11 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Darren Baginski  wrote:
>
> Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more 
> particular.
> While installing I faced some issues.
> Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is BIOS 
> or UEFI and installs grub-pc,
> while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
> One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
> After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running
> `grub-install --bootloader-id=debian`
> you have to run
> `modprobe efivars`
> `efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
> and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`
>
> I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such 
> functionality should be intergrated
> in to the Debian installer.
> My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?

For the archives: it's grub-efi and grub-efi-amd64 (not -uefi).

As Andrei pointed out, you might want to ask on debian-boot. I'd add
that you might want to ask whether they could use the Ubuntu
grub-installer patch that detects BIOS/UEFI and installs the
appropriate grub.


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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-11 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Jerome BENOIT  wrote:
> On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:
>>
>> Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more
>> particular.
>> While installing I faced some issues.
>> Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is
>> BIOS or UEFI and installs grub-pc,
>> while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
>> One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
>> After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running
>> `grub-install --bootloader-id=debian`
>> you have to run
>> `modprobe efivars`
>> `efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
>> and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`
>>
>> I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such
>> functionality should be intergrated
>> in to the Debian installer.
>> My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?
>
> There is actually a discussion about it on the debian-devel list.

Please bottom-post.

That discussion isn't about UEFI but about UEFI's Secure Boot feature.


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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 11 iul 12, 06:08:15, Darren Baginski wrote:
> 
> I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such functionality should be intergrated
> in to the Debian installer.
> My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?  

debian-boot is the mailing list dedicated to developing the Debian 
Installer.

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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-10 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello:

There is actually a discussion about it on the debian-devel list.

Jerome

On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:

Hi list!

Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more particular.
While installing I faced some issues.
Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is BIOS or 
UEFI and installs grub-pc,
while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running
`grub-install --bootloader-id=debian`
you have to run
`modprobe efivars`
`efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`

I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such 
functionality should be intergrated
in to the Debian installer.
My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?





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Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-10 Thread Darren Baginski
Hi list!

Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more particular.
While installing I faced some issues.
Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is BIOS or UEFI and installs grub-pc,
while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running 
`grub-install --bootloader-id=debian` 
you have to run
`modprobe efivars`
`efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`

I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such functionality should be intergrated
in to the Debian installer.
My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?  


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