Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
Anthony Campbell wrote: don't - in fact, I've even wired my speaker through the turbo switch so it's off most of the time! Hm, do you dislike beeps or what? It's pretty trivial to patch the kernel to disable beeps, I could make a loadable module that disabled kernel beeps while it was loaded in about 10 minutes.. -- see shy jo
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
On 08 Feb 1999q, Joey Hess wrote: Anthony Campbell wrote: don't - in fact, I've even wired my speaker through the turbo switch so it's off most of the time! Hm, do you dislike beeps or what? It's pretty trivial to patch the kernel to disable beeps, I could make a loadable module that disabled kernel beeps while it was loaded in about 10 minutes.. I wired my speaker like that ages ago, perhaps even when I was still using DOS. Anyway, at least the turbo button does something useful now... Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
On 02 Feb 1999q, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: 'Fraid I can't help you with that. I usually just download the raw kernel source and use make-kpkg to get a kernel-image*.deb. I've never had a need to build the kernel-source and kernel-headers packages. You'll have to rely on one of the maintainers of those packages to answer that question. What is the point of doing this? I've always compiled my own kernels from source, in both RedHat and Debian, and never felt the need to use either .rpm or .deb versions. Perhaps it's because I don't use lilo but prefer loadlin. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
On 02 Feb 1999q, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: 'Fraid I can't help you with that. I usually just download the raw kernel source and use make-kpkg to get a kernel-image*.deb. I've never had a need to build the kernel-source and kernel-headers packages. You'll have to rely on one of the maintainers of those packages to answer that question. Anthony replied: What is the point of doing this? I've always compiled my own kernels from source, in both RedHat and Debian, and never felt the need to use either .rpm or .deb versions. Perhaps it's because I don't use lilo but prefer loadlin. I also use loadlin. The nice thing I find about make-kpkg is that it automates a number of steps you have to take in the right order, especially if you are using modules. It also makes it rather simple to keep a few kernels around with their modules if you are trying to get certain hardware working (mostly sound cards for me), or if you feel like trying new kernel versions. Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
What is the point of doing this? I've always compiled my own kernels from source, in both RedHat and Debian, and never felt the need to use either .rpm or .deb versions. Perhaps it's because I don't use lilo but prefer loadlin. Compiling a kernel is not a problem, but I only installed the base system and don't want to manual download all the stuff I need to compile the kernel (12 MB kernel sources, egcs, etc...). I want to install add. packages via apt and ISDN, but the ISDN configuration doesn't work and maybe the 2.2.1 kernel fix this problem. But I don't want to download 12 MB kernel sources to find out that the 2.2.1 kernel doesn't fix it. :-) Oliver
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
On 03 Feb 1999q, E.L. Meijer Eric wrote: Anthony replied: What is the point of doing this? I've always compiled my own kernels from source, in both RedHat and Debian, and never felt the need to use either .rpm or .deb versions. Perhaps it's because I don't use lilo but prefer loadlin. I also use loadlin. The nice thing I find about make-kpkg is that it automates a number of steps you have to take in the right order, especially if you are using modules. It also makes it rather simple to keep a few kernels around with their modules if you are trying to get certain hardware working (mostly sound cards for me), or if you feel like trying new kernel versions. Eric Meijer I don't use modules, so perhaps that's the difference. Trying a new kernel is then as easy as changing the name in the batch file from which I boot linux. I probably would use modules if I wanted a sound card to work but I don't - in fact, I've even wired my speaker through the turbo switch so it's off most of the time! Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Anthony Campbell wrote: : On 02 Feb 1999q, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: : : 'Fraid I can't help you with that. I usually just download the raw : kernel source and use make-kpkg to get a kernel-image*.deb. I've never : had a need to build the kernel-source and kernel-headers : packages. You'll have to rely on one of the maintainers of those : packages to answer that question. : : : What is the point of doing this? I've always compiled my own kernels from : source, in both RedHat and Debian, and never felt the need to use either : .rpm or .deb versions. Perhaps it's because I don't use lilo but prefer : loadlin. Several reasons come to mind. Modules become foolproof. dselect can't accidentally replace your custom kernel (it sucks if/when it does and you don't notice until you reboot ...) My biggest reason, though, is we have a pretty fast server here where all kernel compiles occur. It's a pain to transfer the parts of the source tree to the target machine. It's simplicity itself to transfer/install a deb, OTOH ... -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Where is kernel 2.2.0?
I saw the uploaded message days ago, and sunsite still doesn't have the kernel-source or kernel-headers packages available yet :( ftp.debian.org doesn't either Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ Debian GNU/Hurd - love at first byte
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
M.C. Vernon spoke forth with the blessed manuscript: I saw the uploaded message days ago, and sunsite still doesn't have the kernel-source or kernel-headers packages available yet :( ftp.debian.org doesn't either Matthew [snip] Try ftp.kernel.org
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
Mike Garfias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | M.C. Vernon spoke forth with the blessed manuscript: | I saw the uploaded message days ago, and sunsite still doesn't have the | kernel-source or kernel-headers packages available yet :( | | ftp.debian.org doesn't either | | Matthew | | | [snip] | | Try ftp.kernel.org It's usually a dog. I'm not sure what sunsite MC was talking about, perhaps the UK sunsite? But certainly the sunsite in the US (sunsite.unc.edu) has the new kernels via their mirror of ftp.kernel.org. Here's the URL ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.2/ Gary
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
On 2 Feb 1999, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: Mike Garfias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | M.C. Vernon spoke forth with the blessed manuscript: | I saw the uploaded message days ago, and sunsite still doesn't have the | kernel-source or kernel-headers packages available yet :( snip It's usually a dog. I'm not sure what sunsite MC was talking about, perhaps the UK sunsite? But certainly the sunsite in the US (sunsite.unc.edu) has the new kernels via their mirror of ftp.kernel.org. Here's the URL ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.2/ Yes, but I was wondering about the kernel-source and kernel-headers packages. How can I make these fromt he kernel source .tar.gz? Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ Debian GNU/Hurd - love at first byte
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On 2 Feb 1999, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: | | Mike Garfias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | | M.C. Vernon spoke forth with the blessed manuscript: | | I saw the uploaded message days ago, and sunsite still doesn't have the | | kernel-source or kernel-headers packages available yet :( | | snip | | It's usually a dog. I'm not sure what sunsite MC was talking about, | perhaps the UK sunsite? But certainly the sunsite in the US | (sunsite.unc.edu) has the new kernels via their mirror of | ftp.kernel.org. Here's the URL | | ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.2/ | | Yes, but I was wondering about the kernel-source and kernel-headers | packages. How can I make these fromt he kernel source .tar.gz? 'Fraid I can't help you with that. I usually just download the raw kernel source and use make-kpkg to get a kernel-image*.deb. I've never had a need to build the kernel-source and kernel-headers packages. You'll have to rely on one of the maintainers of those packages to answer that question. Gary
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
*- On 2 Feb, M.C. Vernon wrote about Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0? On 2 Feb 1999, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: Mike Garfias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | M.C. Vernon spoke forth with the blessed manuscript: | I saw the uploaded message days ago, and sunsite still doesn't have the | kernel-source or kernel-headers packages available yet :( snip It's usually a dog. I'm not sure what sunsite MC was talking about, perhaps the UK sunsite? But certainly the sunsite in the US (sunsite.unc.edu) has the new kernels via their mirror of ftp.kernel.org. Here's the URL ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.2/ Yes, but I was wondering about the kernel-source and kernel-headers packages. How can I make these fromt he kernel source .tar.gz? Matthew Install the kernel-package Debian package. Then: 1) cd to the directory of the linux source 2) make-kpkg clean 3) make xconfig or make menuconfig or make config 4) make-kpkg --revision custom.1 kernel_image kernel_headers 5) cd .. 6) su 7) dpkg -i kernel-image-2.2.*.deb kernel-headers-2.2.*.deb -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, M.C. Vernon wrote: On 2 Feb 1999, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: Mike Garfias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | M.C. Vernon spoke forth with the blessed manuscript: | I saw the uploaded message days ago, and sunsite still doesn't have the | kernel-source or kernel-headers packages available yet :( snip It's usually a dog. I'm not sure what sunsite MC was talking about, perhaps the UK sunsite? But certainly the sunsite in the US (sunsite.unc.edu) has the new kernels via their mirror of ftp.kernel.org. Here's the URL ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.2/ Yes, but I was wondering about the kernel-source and kernel-headers packages. How can I make these fromt he kernel source .tar.gz? This can be done with make-kpkg, but this brings up a question: I see that the kernel's README file no longer mentions symlinks in /usr/include. Since the headers were put into libc6-dev instead of being linked to kernel-headers, what is the correct procedure to use when compiling on a 2.2.x system? Should the libc6-dev headers be used or the ones from the kernel? Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
*- On 2 Feb, M.C. Vernon wrote about Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0? On 2 Feb 1999, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: Mike Garfias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | M.C. Vernon spoke forth with the blessed manuscript: | I saw the uploaded message days ago, and sunsite still doesn't have the | kernel-source or kernel-headers packages available yet :( snip It's usually a dog. I'm not sure what sunsite MC was talking about, perhaps the UK sunsite? But certainly the sunsite in the US (sunsite.unc.edu) has the new kernels via their mirror of ftp.kernel.org. Here's the URL ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.2/ Yes, but I was wondering about the kernel-source and kernel-headers packages. How can I make these fromt he kernel source .tar.gz? Matthew The kernel-source is available as debs from ftp://ftp.netgod.bnet/linux/v2.2 . I don't know if they are official packages, but at least they're debs. -- Jim Crumley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Work: 612 624-6804 or -1335 |
Re: Where is kernel 2.2.0?
The kernel-source is available as debs from ftp://ftp.netgod.bnet/linux/v2.2 . I don't know if they are official packages, but at least they're debs. I installed the kernel-image*.deb, but there are many modules missing (vfat, hpfs, hisax,...). If I compile the kernel-source deb, could I compile these missing modules? But I don't like to compile the kernel. Is there a 2.2 kernel-image deb available with hisax and vfat modules?