which debian version to host VMWare?

2005-11-06 Thread Mark Hansen
Can anyone recommend which version (stable, testing, unstable) I should 
use as a host OS with VMWare 5?  Debian will be the host OS and I'll 
have a number of guest OS instances running under VMWare.


Also, which kernel version?

Thanks!


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Re: which debian version to host VMWare?

2005-11-06 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
I've been running VMWare Workstation 5 under testing without any
problems myself. The only issue is making sure gcc version used to
compile the kernel matches so you can compile the modules necessary. At
the current time I'm actually looking to get rid of VMWare except for
running Windows XP and 2000 when I need to troubleshoot a clients
problem and run all my other VMs under Xen.

Regards
Jeremy

Mark Hansen wrote:

 Can anyone recommend which version (stable, testing, unstable) I
 should use as a host OS with VMWare 5?  Debian will be the host OS and
 I'll have a number of guest OS instances running under VMWare.

 Also, which kernel version?

 Thanks!




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Re: which debian version to host VMWare?

2005-11-06 Thread D. Michael McFarland
Mark Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can anyone recommend which version (stable, testing, unstable) I should 
 use as a host OS with VMWare 5?  Debian will be the host OS and I'll 
 have a number of guest OS instances running under VMWare.

VMware Workstation 5 is running fine for me under Sarge on an AMD64
box.  I've had zero problems with compiler versions and such.

 Also, which kernel version?

I'm running a 2.6.8 kernel built from Debian sources.  Configuration
is stock except for turning off most sound support (I installed ALSA
separately to make my newish sound card happy).

 Thanks!

You're welcome!

Best regards,
Michael

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Re: which debian version to host VMWare?

2005-11-06 Thread Lubos Vrbka

VMware Workstation 5 is running fine for me under Sarge on an AMD64
box.  I've had zero problems with compiler versions and such.

Also, which kernel version?

I'm running a 2.6.8 kernel built from Debian sources.  Configuration
is stock except for turning off most sound support (I installed ALSA
separately to make my newish sound card happy).
the same here with testing, 2.6.12 kernel and both i386 and amd64 
architectures. also vmware player works perfectly here - once your vm is 
set up, you don't need the vmware itself any more and can use only the 
player that is donwloadable for free...


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Re: Which Debian version?

2004-06-11 Thread bing yu
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 10:27:45PM -0600, Lucas Albers wrote:
 
 Paul Johnson said:
  If you need to ask, stable is what you need.  Wait until you know how
  Debian works before moving on to the development distros (testing,
  sid).
 
 I dont' think I'd choose debian stable as the easiest linux desktop to setup.
 For a server I'd use stable.
 
 For a desktop,
 Perhaps knoppix, cause what public services do you have exposed?
 Or sarge.
which sarge release is better.
i have heard the sarge-beta4 has a lot of bugs and some of my peers can
not finish their installing.

thank you.


 
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Re: Which Debian version?

2004-06-11 Thread Katipo
bing yu wrote:
which sarge release is better.
i have heard the sarge-beta4 has a lot of bugs and some of my peers can
not finish their installing.
thank you.
 

Perhaps they should be newbies like me.
I've installed Sarge with the Beta 4 installer on two separate drives, 
and I haven't had any trouble with either of them.
I've dist-upgraded one to unstable, and it still works fine.
Regards,

David.

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you're taking up too much space.
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Re: Which Debian version?

2004-06-11 Thread Adam Aube
bing yu wrote:

 which sarge release is better.
 i have heard the sarge-beta4 has a lot of bugs and some of my peers can
 not finish their installing.

Then try Test Candidate 1 - the newest release.

www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Adam


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Re: Which Debian version?

2004-06-08 Thread David Piniella
Luis R. Rojas wrote:
the issues i face are :
ntfs or fat32 File System Support ( i come from windows and have a hard
disk with info i cant access anymore )
NVidia GeForce4 Ti 4600 Drivers ( hey if i got the card i want to use it )
PPTP VPN capability ( Anybody know how to implement this? The
configuration file is in my Windows HarDrive wich i cant acces yet but i
am sure i can get the info from my ISP )
SoundBlaster Audigy Drivers ( no audio whatsoever in linux, alsa support
perhaps? )
HighMem Support ( i heard is not worth it as i only have 1GB of RAM but it
would be nice to know how fix this in case i increase my memory )
 

Most, if not all, of your issues would be resolved by a kernel 
recompile. I would recommend going with 2.4 kernel series to start with, 
just because it's better known and you're likely to have less problems 
to start with, but 2.6 should also fix your problems if you feel 
adventurous.

Specifically:
- NTFS and FAT filesystem support needs to be enabled in the kernel (i 
think FAT is by default, but I'm not 100% sure of that.)
- NVidia drivers come up on the list, search the debian-user list 
archives and you'll find help on that. check http://lists.debian.org/search
- PPTP VPN I have no idea, although I would love to know as well, I'm 
fairly sure that there's a kernel module that needs to be configured and 
a client program that you need to use.
- audigy cards work well with ALSA, check 
http://basic-rip.co.uk/tenpin/linux_audigy_faq.html for instructions 
w/r/t 2.6 kernels (I think the instructions are also good for 2.4 
kernels, but i'm not sure.)
- large amounts of RAM need to be enabled in a compiled kernel; you 
might be able to just pass the amount of RAM to the kernel at the linux: 
boot prompt.

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Re: Which Debian version?

2004-06-08 Thread Lucas Albers


Adam Aube said:
 If it's a production server or a test for a rollout onto production
 servers,
 run Stable. You seem to have older hardware, so Woody should install on
 it.
 I would suggest using the bf24 option to install a 2.4 kernel.

I use bonzai to install debian stable.
Bonzai is a modified debian stable installer that uses the 2.4.20 kernel
and does more automatic hardware detection.
I use it to install on all my servers.
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Re: Which Debian version?

2004-06-08 Thread Lucas Albers

Paul Johnson said:
 If you need to ask, stable is what you need.  Wait until you know how
 Debian works before moving on to the development distros (testing,
 sid).

I dont' think I'd choose debian stable as the easiest linux desktop to setup.
For a server I'd use stable.

For a desktop,
Perhaps knoppix, cause what public services do you have exposed?
Or sarge.

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Which Debian version?

2004-06-03 Thread Brian Ronk
I am setting up a computer with Debian, and want to know if there is a 
better version to try.  Basically, stable vs testing version.  Would one 
work better than the other.
The computer is a Compaq Proliant 1850R.  It is a Dual Pentium 3 600 Mhz 
with 265 MB of RAM, onboard nic, SCSI.  The hard drives are a hardware 
SCSI RAID, 17 GB.
Most likely I'll run a Woody install, since it has what I need, but I 
just want to make sure that it will run.  I tried using the network 
install disks (3.5) but had a problem in that it couldn't even mount the 
floppy to get the basic modules off of it.  I'm working on getting the 
CD version (jegdo 0.7.0a on a Windows machine) and will try that.
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Which Debian version?

2004-06-03 Thread Adam Aube
Brian Ronk wrote:

 I am setting up a computer with Debian, and want to know if there is a
 better version to try.  Basically, stable vs testing version.  Would one
 work better than the other.

Actually, as recent discussion on the list showed, the real choice is
between Stable and Unstable. When Testing breaks (which has happened more
than once in recent months), it can take weeks or months to fix, and it
doesn't get security updates in a timely fashion.

 The computer is a Compaq Proliant 1850R.  It is a Dual Pentium 3 600 Mhz
 with 265 MB of RAM, onboard nic, SCSI.  The hard drives are a hardware
 SCSI RAID, 17 GB.

If it's a production server or a test for a rollout onto production servers,
run Stable. You seem to have older hardware, so Woody should install on it.
I would suggest using the bf24 option to install a 2.4 kernel.

Adam


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Re: Which Debian version?

2004-06-03 Thread Luis R. Rojas

Adam Aube said:
 Brian Ronk wrote:

 I am setting up a computer with Debian, and want to know if there is a
 better version to try.  Basically, stable vs testing version.  Would one
 work better than the other.

 Actually, as recent discussion on the list showed, the real choice is
 between Stable and Unstable. When Testing breaks (which has happened more
 than once in recent months), it can take weeks or months to fix, and it
 doesn't get security updates in a timely fashion.

Well, i am in a similar situation, is just that i went ahead and installed
from the net-install ISO images for Debian 'Sarge' BETA-4. All i can say
is that after spending about 8 hours with the machine installing from the
net, i expected a more clean install. as it turns out, i haven trying to
tweak the settings and see if i can get my system to respond, among other
critical and not-so-critical things. ( if anybody care to take a peek at a
dump of some diagnostics please do so at
http://lhabia.com/lrrm/ts-report.txt;, maybe somebody will give me a clue
)

I have been considering trying to install Woody 3.0r1 and upgrade
afterwards to 3.0r2 ( this bad is been with Sarge ), but i am afraid i
will just encounter more of the same. This is not trolling, is a cry for
help.

the issues i face are :
ntfs or fat32 File System Support ( i come from windows and have a hard
disk with info i cant access anymore )
NVidia GeForce4 Ti 4600 Drivers ( hey if i got the card i want to use it )
PPTP VPN capability ( Anybody know how to implement this? The
configuration file is in my Windows HarDrive wich i cant acces yet but i
am sure i can get the info from my ISP )
SoundBlaster Audigy Drivers ( no audio whatsoever in linux, alsa support
perhaps? )
HighMem Support ( i heard is not worth it as i only have 1GB of RAM but it
would be nice to know how fix this in case i increase my memory )

 The computer is a Compaq Proliant 1850R.  It is a Dual Pentium 3 600 Mhz
 with 265 MB of RAM, onboard nic, SCSI.  The hard drives are a hardware
 SCSI RAID, 17 GB.

 If it's a production server or a test for a rollout onto production
 servers,
 run Stable. You seem to have older hardware, so Woody should install on
 it.
 I would suggest using the bf24 option to install a 2.4 kernel.

 Adam

bf24 seems to give lots of headaches in my system, specially if i try to
use the NVidia Installer for its drivers.

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Re: Which Debian version?

2004-06-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Brian Ronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am setting up a computer with Debian, and want to know if there is a
 better version to try.  Basically, stable vs testing version.  Would
 one work better than the other.

If you need to ask, stable is what you need.  Wait until you know how
Debian works before moving on to the development distros (testing,
sid).

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