Re: Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace t
Hello, On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 07:04:35PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > Dear Mr. Cater, Thank you for your post, re-forming the subject-line > and your query. Why are you reforming Andrew's subject line? It seemed like a very sensible subject line. > I request you not to rename the subject of the thread, as the > continuity of the thread shall be lost and I might not be able to > trace the thread in future. But your subject lines are too long. Can you find even one person besides yourself who thinks that your practice of putting an entire paragraph into a subject line is a sensible email practice compared to the subject that Andrew Cater used, and you rejected? I request that you stop using such lengthy subject lines as they make it hard to quickly determine what any of your emails are actually about - the primary purpose of the subject header. Additionally, I would suggest that if your email software can't cope with the proper threading of emails when their subject line is changed, that you should pick better software for the purpose of reading email. There is no shortage of options that can accomplish the basic task of presenting threads of conversation. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
Re: Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace t
Dear Mr. Cater, Thank you for your post, re-forming the subject-line and your query. Since this part is over, please let this subject thread remain closed. I won't post any further messages ion it. It would be a different matter if someone posts on the thread and I am obliged to reply to that query. Please note that the reply your query on the post with the renamed subject: Broadcom WiFi/Bluetooth BCM43142 issues Will be posted on the subject thread: Please help configure to activate Bluetooth networking for "Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)" card In fact, I posted my last message without reading yours. Good coincidence, I have partly replied to your query on output on that last message. I request you not to rename the subject of the thread, as the continuity of the thread shall be lost and I might not be able to trace the thread in future. Best wishes, Rajib Etc.
Re: Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace t
I have had a conversation with the Team ThinkPenguin for the wireless N model model. Their USB WiFi dongle is only for WiFi connectivity. Not for Bluetooth. The team has been very transparent with sharing information, and I thank you for letting me know about such an empowering team surviving within the proprietary universe. Since the wl module already has configured and restored the WiFi connectivity for my laptop, I wouldn't require the said dongle. Shortly, I will post for configuring the Bluetooth connectivity for my HP laptop. So your support is all the more expected. Best wishes, Rajib
Re: Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace t
I thank Mr. Butterworth for his kind information on the wireless N model network card. This gives me an opportunity to suggest to the Debian Universe to have similar such internal add-ons and a comprehensive list of internal add-ons be made available to us users, be bought from the open market, rather than the list of only tested laptops at https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn#OfficialDocumentation and some external accessories, such as printers, scanners, etc. A fair amount of discussion is on the thread: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/04/msg00504.html The economic model is sure to survive competition given the sheer number of FSF, GNU/Linux users, including the Debian, Arch, Manjaro, Ubuntu, et al, users all over the world. I have sent an email to ThinkPenguin for the wireless N model model using their Contact webpage. Best wishes, Rajib Etc.
Re: Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace t
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 2:44 PM Susmita/Rajib wrote: > My dear Illustrious Leaders and Senior Members of the debian-user Mailing > List, > > I would again return to my earlier post at: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00650.html > > That is, the First Mail of this thread with the present Subject. > > I desire a Debian approved list for perfectly compatible > Wireless-Bluetooth Cards. The FSF only has one WiFi adapater approved as free software. It is a wireless N model. https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb > Like the PCI list, with the heading: > DeviceDatabase/PCI - Debian Wiki > at > https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI > > Why do I need to return to this thread? Because, unlike what Mr. Cater > advised, in his post: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00679.html > > the "firmware-b43-installer" isn't suitable for the card that my laptop > has: > > "Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142 > 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)" card, > > as the webpage > https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43#contact > for the "firmware-b43-installer" mentions. The relevant portions of > the said webpage may please be perused. On the webpage the list with > the following columns has the following entries for the said chipset: > PCI-ID Supported? Chip ID Modes PHY version Alternative > 14e4:4365 no BCM43142 b/g/n LCN40 (r3) wl > > That is, the said card of my laptop isn't supported by the > "firmware-b43-installer". I have already posted a reply to Mr. Cater > with the said information at: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00846.html > > I am still hoping, despite what Mr.Purgert suggests in his post: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00654.html, that I > will be able to find a Debian-approved wireless networking card and > that my HP laptop BIOS would allow it to be used instead of the native > wireless card. > > If every effort fails, I will try to procure a Frame.work customisable > laptop for my use. > > Best wishes, > Rajib, > Etc. > > -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀
Re: Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace t
Am 28.10.2023 um 17:22:18 Uhr schrieb Susmita/Rajib: > I am still hoping, despite what Mr.Purgert suggests in his post: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00654.html, that I > will be able to find a Debian-approved wireless networking card and > that my HP laptop BIOS would allow it to be used instead of the native > wireless card. My experience with HP laptops (and most other laptops due to FCC reasons) is that only the devices sold with that model (some models support different modules, e.g. to have more expensive Intel for vPro logo and cheaper Broadcoms). My guess it to look at the HP website to see which NICs were shipped with your laptop, then check how they are supported. If none is good for you, you may think about Expresscard or USB solutions.
Re: Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace t
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 05:22:18PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > My dear Illustrious Leaders and Senior Members of the debian-user Mailing > List, > > I would again return to my earlier post at: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00650.html > > That is, the First Mail of this thread with the present Subject. > Hello Rajib, Please can you reduce the size of your subject line. You can make it much shorter and still informative. > I desire a Debian approved list for perfectly compatible > Wireless-Bluetooth Cards. Like the PCI list, with the heading: > DeviceDatabase/PCI - Debian Wiki > at > https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI > There is no definitive list for "perfectly compatible" cards, unfortunately. There is a list of cards that people have found to work but, as noted, HP maintain an allowlist/denylist of cards that *they* approve. > Why do I need to return to this thread? Because, unlike what Mr. Cater > advised, in his post: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00679.html > > the "firmware-b43-installer" isn't suitable for the card that my laptop has: > > "Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142 > 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)" card, > > as the webpage https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43#contact > for the "firmware-b43-installer" mentions. The relevant portions of > the said webpage may please be perused. On the webpage the list with > the following columns has the following entries for the said chipset: > PCI-ID Supported? Chip ID Modes PHY version Alternative > 14e4:4365 no BCM43142 b/g/n LCN40 (r3) wl > > That is, the said card of my laptop isn't supported by the > "firmware-b43-installer". I have already posted a reply to Mr. Cater > with the said information at: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00846.html > Thanks for this. Again, a request - please *don't* address replies primarily to individuals - please address them to the list because the list will archive the relevant information. > I am still hoping, despite what Mr.Purgert suggests in his post: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00654.html, that I > will be able to find a Debian-approved wireless networking card and > that my HP laptop BIOS would allow it to be used instead of the native > wireless card. > Note that you have been given the solution using module-assistant by someone else on the list. > If every effort fails, I will try to procure a Frame.work customisable > laptop for my use. > That will be a very expensive workaround and you may face delays: I think they have a backlog on orders. You may find also that people have had varying experiences with their Framework - there's a very long post on Debian Planet somewhere with a whole list of plusses and minuses. All the very best, as ever, Andy > Best wishes, > Rajib, > Etc. >
Re: Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace t
My dear Illustrious Leaders and Senior Members of the debian-user Mailing List, I would again return to my earlier post at: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00650.html That is, the First Mail of this thread with the present Subject. I desire a Debian approved list for perfectly compatible Wireless-Bluetooth Cards. Like the PCI list, with the heading: DeviceDatabase/PCI - Debian Wiki at https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI Why do I need to return to this thread? Because, unlike what Mr. Cater advised, in his post: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00679.html the "firmware-b43-installer" isn't suitable for the card that my laptop has: "Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)" card, as the webpage https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43#contact for the "firmware-b43-installer" mentions. The relevant portions of the said webpage may please be perused. On the webpage the list with the following columns has the following entries for the said chipset: PCI-ID Supported? Chip ID Modes PHY version Alternative 14e4:4365 no BCM43142 b/g/n LCN40 (r3) wl That is, the said card of my laptop isn't supported by the "firmware-b43-installer". I have already posted a reply to Mr. Cater with the said information at: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00846.html I am still hoping, despite what Mr.Purgert suggests in his post: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00654.html, that I will be able to find a Debian-approved wireless networking card and that my HP laptop BIOS would allow it to be used instead of the native wireless card. If every effort fails, I will try to procure a Frame.work customisable laptop for my use. Best wishes, Rajib, Etc.
Re: Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace t
From: Dan Purgert Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 07:45:13 -0400 Message-id: <[🔎] zteuscplhkmsy...@framework.djph.net> In-reply-to: <[🔎] zteuscplhkmsy...@framework.djph.net> Thank you, Mr. Purgert, for replying to my message. This self-annihilating proprietary ecosystem needs to crumble down. I agree with you, but we in Bharat have presently very little to no other alternatives. My nation actually became independent from the Brit exploitative controls only in 2014. It will take some time for us to build our own tech infrastructure and get back to our historical GDP levels, as discussed by Angus Maddison, reflected in https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Yuri-Yegorov/publication/362231713/figure/fig1/AS:1181682669494278@1658746511970/The-global-contribution-to-worlds-GDP-by-major-economies-from-1-CE-to-2003-CE-according.ppm We were a civilisation far advanced than even the modern world, (considering the positive non-zero sum cooperative Games surrounding our Mandir ecosystem) truly globally spread out, nearly overrun by the twin hostile cults from the resource-stressed lands, first the perpetually-thirsty hordes, then by the "Doctrine of Discovery" Papal Bull "Inter Caetera" issued by Pope Alexander VI on May 4, 1493. Which is why the west will never acknowledge our true gifts to the humankind. Cursorily, here and there, they will say that India contributed "0". But imagine using the Roman numeral system for even simple computations, which the west used until the 1st invaders took our computations with them. Our texts record that the principles of Gravity was discovered many centuries before the thief. Also, Pre-calculus. And much more. For instance, this Indix short video: Indians Discovered Theory of Gravitation or Sir Isaac Newton, at youtu.be/xd2KFjtaJiE. Had we not been invaded upon by parasitic zombies, may be, the origin of antikythera device would have been traced back to Bharat. Could have Antikythera device been possible without a rudimentary compound microscope? Only Bharat had a continual civilisation since at least the eruption of Mount Toba. Dig a little further and you might be surprised. Good references would be Rajiv Malhotra's Breaking India, The History Of India As Told By Its Historians, by Henry Miers Elliot and the several studies on global migration patterns using epigenetic markers which indicate an Out Of Bharat Theory and decimates the Aryan Invasion Myth. We are gradually getting back to our feet. We will hopefully reset the 1000 years exploitations, much wiser than earlier. Along the way the faux cults shall be self-obliterated because of their lies getting exposed. Perhaps the truly cognitively-retards will continue to follow them. Imagine that Bharat didn't invade any nation! We spread the message of Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam: We All Are One family. The Holographic Universe is reflected in The Upanishads; and much more ... SUMMARY: So with the above perspective and getting back to my queries ... Therefore, a Link to the list of cards, preferably in Debian, like the one mentioned earlier as DeviceDatabase/PCI, which to buy from, would be welcome. Then let us see if the HP BIOS interferes with the card. If required, I would try to find if a Framework Laptop by Nirav Patel, Founder of Framework and Team Framework, is available nearby. One small step at a time.
Re: Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace t
On Oct 24, 2023, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > [...] > -Product- > Name : HP Notebook (Hewlett-Packard, www.hp.com) > Family: 103C_5335KV G=N L=CON B=HP (Hewlett-Packard, > www.hp.com) > Vendor: Hewlett-Packard (Hewlett-Packard, www.hp.com) > HP are generally very anti-consumer, and include device whitelists in their BIOS/UEFI loaders that will prevent your PC from booting if there isn't HP-approved wifi (etc.) in there -- at least on the PCI bus. Additionally, your machine (or at least the model) appears to be about 10 years old (so chances of HP still selling parts is a bit slim); so you're probably "limited" to grabbing one of the generic USB dongles that're on the market, based on various Realtek chipsets (such as the 8811xU 802.11a/b/g/n/ac ones). -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
