Re: Who knows stuff about WAN cards?

1997-09-07 Thread Boris D. Beletsky
 On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Amos wrote:

 Amos> [ recommandations for SDL and Emerging Technologies deleted for
 Amos> bravity ]
 Amos>
 Amos> I know of at least 3 Sangoma 508 boards running at 64Kb
 Amos> frame-relay, and about to install one in my home machine soon.
 Amos> Their web site (http://www.sangoma.com) shows relatively new
 Amos> boards with CSU/DSU included, but I was worried that the
 Amos> standards here in Israel possibly being a little different and
 Amos> so it isrisky to get this part integrated - you might want to
 Amos> check the service in your area before ordering.
 Amos>
 Amos> BTW, Sangoma are the people who donated (and apparently still
 Amos> maintain) the WAN support to Linux.
 Amos>
 Amos> (Debian related - two of the three running cards (and my home
 Amos> machine) use it under Debian "bo" release, the other one runs
 Amos> RedHat).
 Amos>
 Amos> Hope this helps,

I would also recommend to look at the "Incarda" router card, it's about the
same price (if I am not mistaken) as Sangoma. The reason why I prefer to use
it is because it's completely independent router with hardware firewalls and
other Ip filters, and all the routing compatibilities are already in the card
so you don't have to waste computer resources on building firewalls and
running gated.

It is managed by telnet (the only thing that card takes
from the computer is power, it is not related to the software that runs
on the computer) or menu based dos program.

The site is http://www.sourcecom.com/ 
products: http://www.sourcecom.com/pub/products/products.htm

There are also external models (same card just in small box and power
supply) which CSU/DSU support. (this product family is called "InRoute")

Good Luck,
borik
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Re: Who knows stuff about WAN cards?

1997-09-05 Thread Amos Shapira
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
|Pete Templin wrote:
|> 
|> 
|> Hi there!!
|> 
|> I'm doing some network consulting for a computer store, and we'd like to
|> connect the store LAN to the Internet through a 56k or T1 connection.  If
|> possible, we'd like to save the expense of the router and perhaps the
|> CSU/DSU if possible.
|
|Very possible.
|
|> I think I've seen some adds in network magazines for WAN cards.  Are any
|> of you using them?  If so, can you tell me about driver compatibility?
|> Does it replace the CSU/DSU, or did you still have to rent/buy one?  What
|> sort of interface options did you have to select from (I've heard that
|> different telco boxes have different interface types)?
|
|I've used the SDL 56k and T1 boards. Buoy.com is currently running
|on the T1 board. I have a 56k card to sell... :)

[ recommandations for SDL and Emerging Technologies deleted for
bravity ]

I know of at least 3 Sangoma 508 boards running at 64Kb frame-relay,
and about to install one in my home machine soon.  Their web site
(http://www.sangoma.com) shows relatively new boards with CSU/DSU
included, but I was worried that the standards here in Israel possibly
being a little different and so it is risky to get this part
integrated - you might want to check the service in your area before
ordering.

BTW, Sangoma are the people who donated (and apparently still
maintain) the WAN support to Linux.

(Debian related - two of the three running cards (and my home machine)
use it under Debian "bo" release, the other one runs RedHat).

Hope this helps,

--Amos

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Re: Who knows stuff about WAN cards?

1997-09-04 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:13:30 -0400 (EDT), Pete Templin wrote:

>
>Hi there!!
>
>I'm doing some network consulting for a computer store, and we'd like to
>connect the store LAN to the Internet through a 56k or T1 connection.  If
>possible, we'd like to save the expense of the router and perhaps the
>CSU/DSU if possible.
>
>I think I've seen some adds in network magazines for WAN cards.  Are any
>of you using them?  If so, can you tell me about driver compatibility?
>Does it replace the CSU/DSU, or did you still have to rent/buy one?  What
>sort of interface options did you have to select from (I've heard that
>different telco boxes have different interface types)?

Check out 
http://www.sangoma.com/

I've heard good things about the wanpipe.

As for an internal CSU/DSU I consider it good practice to leave that as an 
external modular component.

www.bat.com seems to have good prices.
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http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/  Linux Router Project


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Re: Who knows stuff about WAN cards?

1997-09-04 Thread Tim Sailer
Pete Templin wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there!!
> 
> I'm doing some network consulting for a computer store, and we'd like to
> connect the store LAN to the Internet through a 56k or T1 connection.  If
> possible, we'd like to save the expense of the router and perhaps the
> CSU/DSU if possible.

Very possible.

> I think I've seen some adds in network magazines for WAN cards.  Are any
> of you using them?  If so, can you tell me about driver compatibility?
> Does it replace the CSU/DSU, or did you still have to rent/buy one?  What
> sort of interface options did you have to select from (I've heard that
> different telco boxes have different interface types)?

I've used the SDL 56k and T1 boards. Buoy.com is currently running
on the T1 board. I have a 56k card to sell... :)
They have worked tremendously for us, and clients I've used them at.
The 56k card runs about $600, and the T1 card about $1000. These are the
ones with the builtin csu, and you can buy them without it. Emerging
Technologies makes some cards too, but they are pricy (IMO), and they
cater to BSD systems... although they have a good driver for linux, and
a steady following. I've just had exceptional luck from SDL. The drivers
are working with 1.2.13 and 2.0.30 on our systems, and the T1 card will
do FT1 also, from 64k on up.

You really don't have interface options. They bring you a connector(56k)
or a smart jack (T1), which you simply plug a 10BaseT cable into, and
the other end into your WAN board, or csu if you choose the separate
components route.

Tim

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Who knows stuff about WAN cards?

1997-09-04 Thread Pete Templin

Hi there!!

I'm doing some network consulting for a computer store, and we'd like to
connect the store LAN to the Internet through a 56k or T1 connection.  If
possible, we'd like to save the expense of the router and perhaps the
CSU/DSU if possible.

I think I've seen some adds in network magazines for WAN cards.  Are any
of you using them?  If so, can you tell me about driver compatibility?
Does it replace the CSU/DSU, or did you still have to rent/buy one?  What
sort of interface options did you have to select from (I've heard that
different telco boxes have different interface types)?

Thanks for your help,

Pete

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