Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-10-06 Thread Alexey Salmin
o_O What?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Charles Kroeger
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>> and there are a lot of a--holes on the list...
> It should be pointed out that an a-hole is quite different from being anal.
> Anal people you can live with, a-holes on the other hand, never.
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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-10-06 Thread Charles Kroeger
> and there are a lot of a--holes on the list...
It should be pointed out that an a-hole is quite different from being anal.
Anal people you can live with, a-holes on the other hand, never.
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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-10-01 Thread Terence
>>and why are you anal?
>
> He probably feels it is very important to protect and inform the community.
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and there are a lot of a--holes on the list...

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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-10-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20091001093319.73c90...@vivalunalitshi.luna.local>, Micha Feigin wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:54:41 -0700
>Paul Johnson  wrote:
>> On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 10:09 -0700, Charlie Dorff wrote:
>> > Hi...
>> > I installed debian using a netinstall and then tried to install skype.
>> > Does anyone know
>> > what I am doing wrong?
>>
>> Besides encouraging a known pirate of GPL software?
>
>What GPL software did the[y] pirate,

Probably the standard set: Linux, coreutils, fileutils, and binutils, maybe 
busybox.

>why don't you sue them for it

An injunction was already filed in a German court.  Skype initially counter-
sued claiming the GPL was anti-competitive.  Before the judges took up that 
issue, Skype dropped their counter-suit and are, as I understand it, in the 
process of complying with the GPL.

GIYF.

>and why are
> you anal?

He probably feels it is very important to protect and inform the community.
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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-10-01 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:54:41 -0700
Paul Johnson  wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 10:09 -0700, Charlie Dorff wrote:
> > Hi...
> > I installed debian using a netinstall and then tried to install skype
> > but got an error message saying 
> > "could not open skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb". Does anyone know
> > what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > Charlie
> > 
> 
> Besides encouraging a known pirate of GPL software?
> 

What GPL software did the pirate, why don't you sue them for it and why are you
anal?


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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 10:09 -0700, Charlie Dorff wrote:
> Hi...
> I installed debian using a netinstall and then tried to install skype
> but got an error message saying 
> "could not open skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb". Does anyone know
> what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
> 
> Charlie
> 

Besides encouraging a known pirate of GPL software?



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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-21 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 9/18/09, Micha Feigin  wrote:
> I think that the current "ubuntu" skype version from skype website depends
>  on this, but turns out that you may also need to move /usr/lib32/libpulse* 
> out
>  of the way or it may crash (did for me)
>
Indeed. Thank you for the suggestion. Now
skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.47-1_amd64 does not crash, and
sound/record find.
Liviu


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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-18 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. schreef:
This is all off-topic anyway; it's not helping get skype installed.  IIRC, it 
should be available from either non-free or debian-multimedia repositories and 
installable via aptitude.

No it is not.
Download the deb from 
http://www.skype.com/intl/nl/download/skype/linux/, and install it as 
root (either via sudo or su) with dpkg -i
FYI: if you happen to have a 64 bit installation, the Unbuntu 64 bit 
version works fine on Debian too.


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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-18 Thread thveillon.debian
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. a écrit :
> In , Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
>> thveillon.debian wrote:
>>> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
 On Qui, 17 Set 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> I'm curious, why are you indicating use of sudo? It's not even
> installed/configured by default in Debian...
 Ubuntu influence, I'd bet.
>>> It's offered as an install option, at least it was the last time I
>>> installed from a testing netinstall image.
>>> Of course Ubuntu did a neat job advertising sudo, it's spreading all
>>> over (and it's great, it's a nice tool in a multiuser environment, just
>>> doesn't make sens the way Ubuntu uses it...).
>> guys ubuntu did not introduce sudo.
>>
>> It's normal way to run commands as root.
> 
> Maybe today.  However, "su" existed long before "sudo" and is the canonical 
> way to execute commands as root.
> 
> I don't use "su"; my root user account is locked and I use "sudo" 
> exclusively, 
> on Debian.  I used it on Gentoo first (not installed by default), then Debian 
> (not installed by default), then Ubuntu (installed by default, but I still 
> had 
> to configure it), then openSUSE (not installed by default, and my root 
> account 
> can't be locked because my YaST don't know how to ask for root permissions 
> via 
> sudo).
> 
> While calling the use of "sudo" an Ubuntu influence is jumping to 
> conclusions, 
> many "old-skool" UNIX and Linux users are surprised at the mention of "sudo" 
> since they expect commands needing root to "simply" be executed at a root 
> prompt.
> 
> This is all off-topic anyway; it's not helping get skype installed.  IIRC, it 
> should be available from either non-free or debian-multimedia repositories 
> and 
> installable via aptitude.

Since we are talking Ubuntu, this is **NOT** good practice, but if for
some reasons the static package from skype doesn't work for you, you can
grab the medibuntu x86-64 packages. They've been working fine here for ages.

Use Hardy packages if on Lenny, Jaunty on anything else.

http://packages.medibuntu.org/

I use "skype-common" and "skype-static" or "skype" packages, they both
work for me. On amd64 you'll need ia32libs and lib32nss-mdns.


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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-18 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,17.Sep.09, 23:31:12, thveillon.debian wrote:
> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> > On Qui, 17 Set 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >> I'm curious, why are you indicating use of sudo? It's not even
> >> installed/configured by default in Debian...
> > 
> > Ubuntu influence, I'd bet.
> 
> It's offered as an install option, at least it was the last time I
> installed from a testing netinstall image.

Only on 'expert' installs...

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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-18 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
>thveillon.debian wrote:
>> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
>>> On Qui, 17 Set 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 I'm curious, why are you indicating use of sudo? It's not even
 installed/configured by default in Debian...
>>>
>>> Ubuntu influence, I'd bet.
>>
>> It's offered as an install option, at least it was the last time I
>> installed from a testing netinstall image.
>> Of course Ubuntu did a neat job advertising sudo, it's spreading all
>> over (and it's great, it's a nice tool in a multiuser environment, just
>> doesn't make sens the way Ubuntu uses it...).
>
>guys ubuntu did not introduce sudo.
>
>It's normal way to run commands as root.

Maybe today.  However, "su" existed long before "sudo" and is the canonical 
way to execute commands as root.

I don't use "su"; my root user account is locked and I use "sudo" exclusively, 
on Debian.  I used it on Gentoo first (not installed by default), then Debian 
(not installed by default), then Ubuntu (installed by default, but I still had 
to configure it), then openSUSE (not installed by default, and my root account 
can't be locked because my YaST don't know how to ask for root permissions via 
sudo).

While calling the use of "sudo" an Ubuntu influence is jumping to conclusions, 
many "old-skool" UNIX and Linux users are surprised at the mention of "sudo" 
since they expect commands needing root to "simply" be executed at a root 
prompt.

This is all off-topic anyway; it's not helping get skype installed.  IIRC, it 
should be available from either non-free or debian-multimedia repositories and 
installable via aptitude.
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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
thveillon.debian wrote:

> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
>> On Qui, 17 Set 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>>> I'm curious, why are you indicating use of sudo? It's not even
>>> installed/configured by default in Debian...
>> 
>> Ubuntu influence, I'd bet.
>> 
>> 
> 
> It's offered as an install option, at least it was the last time I
> installed from a testing netinstall image.
> Of course Ubuntu did a neat job advertising sudo, it's spreading all
> over (and it's great, it's a nice tool in a multiuser environment, just
> doesn't make sens the way Ubuntu uses it...).

guys ubuntu did not introduce sudo.

It's normal way to run commands as root.

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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

> On Qui, 17 Set 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>> I'm curious, why are you indicating use of sudo? It's not even
>> installed/configured by default in Debian...
> 
> Ubuntu influence, I'd bet.
> 
> 

no, no ubuntu influence, because I assume he/she has downloaded the file
already. you can not install with normal user right, right!

sudo is trivial and does not has to do anything with ubuntu. besides I
dislike ubuntu philosophy.

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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Dale
2009/9/18 Micha Feigin :
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:51:41 +0930
> Dale  wrote:
>
>> 2009/9/18 Micha Feigin :
>> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:09:44 -0700 (PDT)
>> > Charlie Dorff  wrote:
>> >
>> > How are you trying to install it (from what package/repository/site) and 
>> > what is your system (32bit or 64bit)?
>> >
>> > What is the exact command that you are running and what is the full error 
>> > message?
>> >
>>
>> I have noted to with 64bit system you have to install the Ubuntu 64bit
>> version as Skype have not made a Debian 64bit version. Also for the
>> 64bit version to run you need to install 'ia32' package.
>>
>
> I think that the current "ubuntu" skype version from skype website depends
> on this, but turns out that you may also need to move /usr/lib32/libpulse* out
> of the way or it may crash (did for me)
>

I don't have pulse audio installed on my personal desktop or laptop
computers and the new Skype runs fine under Debian 5.0.3 64bit.

Regards
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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:51:41 +0930
Dale  wrote:

> 2009/9/18 Micha Feigin :
> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:09:44 -0700 (PDT)
> > Charlie Dorff  wrote:
> >
> > How are you trying to install it (from what package/repository/site) and 
> > what is your system (32bit or 64bit)?
> >
> > What is the exact command that you are running and what is the full error 
> > message?
> >
> 
> I have noted to with 64bit system you have to install the Ubuntu 64bit
> version as Skype have not made a Debian 64bit version. Also for the
> 64bit version to run you need to install 'ia32' package.
> 

I think that the current "ubuntu" skype version from skype website depends
on this, but turns out that you may also need to move /usr/lib32/libpulse* out
of the way or it may crash (did for me)


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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Dale
2009/9/18 Micha Feigin :
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:09:44 -0700 (PDT)
> Charlie Dorff  wrote:
>
> How are you trying to install it (from what package/repository/site) and what 
> is your system (32bit or 64bit)?
>
> What is the exact command that you are running and what is the full error 
> message?
>

I have noted to with 64bit system you have to install the Ubuntu 64bit
version as Skype have not made a Debian 64bit version. Also for the
64bit version to run you need to install 'ia32' package.

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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:09:44 -0700 (PDT)
Charlie Dorff  wrote:

> Hi...
> I installed debian using a netinstall and then tried to install skype but got 
> an error message saying 
> "could not open skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb". Does anyone know what I am 
> doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
> 
> Charlie
> 
> 
> 
>

How are you trying to install it (from what package/repository/site) and what 
is your system (32bit or 64bit)?

What is the exact command that you are running and what is the full error 
message?


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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread thveillon.debian
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> On Qui, 17 Set 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>> I'm curious, why are you indicating use of sudo? It's not even
>> installed/configured by default in Debian...
> 
> Ubuntu influence, I'd bet.
> 
> 

It's offered as an install option, at least it was the last time I
installed from a testing netinstall image.
Of course Ubuntu did a neat job advertising sudo, it's spreading all
over (and it's great, it's a nice tool in a multiuser environment, just
doesn't make sens the way Ubuntu uses it...).


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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On Qui, 17 Set 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:

I'm curious, why are you indicating use of sudo? It's not even
installed/configured by default in Debian...


Ubuntu influence, I'd bet.


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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,17.Sep.09, 20:29:13, Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
> 
> do this in the command line
> 
> sudo dpkg -i skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb

I'm curious, why are you indicating use of sudo? It's not even
installed/configured by default in Debian...

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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 17 September 2009 13:29:13 Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
> Charlie Dorff wrote:
> > I installed debian using a netinstall and then tried to install skype but
> > got an error message saying "could not open
> > skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb".
>
> sudo dpkg -i skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb

Had you downloaded/created skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb?  dpkg installs 
package from files on the file system; it doesn't know how to fetch them from 
remote sources.

Also, I'm pretty sure you meant "skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_i386.deb" with a "i" 
not a "1" at the end.
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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Charlie Dorff wrote:

> Hi...
> I installed debian using a netinstall and then tried to install skype but
> got an error message saying "could not open
> skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb". Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Charlie


do this in the command line

sudo dpkg -i skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb

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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,17.Sep.09, 10:09:44, Charlie Dorff wrote:
> Hi...
> I installed debian using a netinstall and then tried to install skype 
> but got an error message saying "could not open 
> skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb". Does anyone know what I am doing 
> wrong? Thanks in advance.

Please show *exactly* (copy-paste) what command you ran and what the 
output was.

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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Niu Kun

Charlie Dorff 写道:

Hi...
I installed debian using a netinstall and then tried to install skype 
but got an error message saying
"could not open skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb". Does anyone know 
what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance.


Charlie



I have skype installed on my machine.
But I installed it manually without using deb package.
And it works really good for me.
It can be download from skype's website.


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Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-09-17 Thread Charlie Dorff
Hi...
I installed debian using a netinstall and then tried to install skype but got 
an error message saying 
"could not open skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb". Does anyone know what I am 
doing wrong? Thanks in advance.

Charlie