Re: Why use Enlightenment?
Another opinion, worth what you're paying for it: I actually switched from E to sawmill and then back to E. Why? Part of it was the eye candy, I really like the real-time ripples on the bottom of the screen using just 2% of cpu (Celeron 333), translucent drag is dead cool, tooltips are classic, and there's something satisfying about hearing a window explode when I close it. But there's also the pager (mentioned elsewhere), which doesn't use a noticeable amount of cpu even on my PPC 603e 160 at home (I think it's around 2%, wish there were an option to continuously scan all desktops!), and window shading. Most useful of all are the window size and movement features, such as window overlap edge resistance, resistance to moving a window off the edge of the screen, intelligent window placement, and desktop cleanup (where all the windows slide around going wheee-boioioioing simultaneously until they're neatly aligned). I have yet to see any of these features in any other WM. Call me what you like, but having used these things for a few months since E 0.15 came out, it's very psychologically frustrating to do without them. NO, you STUPID WINDOW, I DON'T want to have to move my mouse a pixel at a time JUST to put you exactly next to the other one! For those who haven't tried it, I recommend giving it a go. You just might become addicted too, to the eye candy and to some truly useful and unique features. Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: Why use Enlightenment?
E.L. Meijer Eric hat gesagt: // E.L. Meijer Eric wrote: Does the current incarnation of E already have a desktop pager with the same functionality as fvwm2? Some time ago it didn't, and for me it is one of the features I like most (and use heavily) about fvwm2. Yup, that was one of the reasons I never used E for long ... until now! E-0.16 has a really good pager with lots of tricks that are easy to configure (meaning: to shut them off) I was very impressed with the new release and I am using it daily now. It's not only eye candy, but really usable now, stable and - well, for the first time, I like *working* with E, not just looking at it! -- ____ Frank Barknecht __ __ trip\ \ / /wire __ / __// __ /__/ __// // __ \ \/ / __ \\ ___\ / / / / / / / // // /\ \\ ___\\ \ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_//_// / \ \\_\\_\ /_/\_\
Re: Why use Enlightenment?
OK, I'll bite. I mean, didn't the Trolls spout this back during E 0.14? Admittedly, I gave up on E recently for Sawmill, but E was always a good window manager. If it wasn't, why would it be as popular as it is? You said it yourself, you don't have to use it. Then don't. There's nothing forcing you to use E. I used it when I did because it was cool and Gnome'd well. To each their own. And please, stay on topic! Myself too.. -- The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw ICQ me @ 319030 email @ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpG1QAbsgQYf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why use Enlightenment?
i agree ..it looks great..if your willing to sacrafice the speed..for some its worth it ..its always nice to have the choice. i for use chose afterstep, and it flies. kde is a DOG compared to it..i havent tried E for a couple years back then it was pretty slow ..but was useable..never figured out how to edit the menus to add programs so i stopped usin it. nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 10:39pm up 76 days, 10:06, 1 user, load average: 0.34, 0.38, 0.36 On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, David J. Kanter wrote: Am I the only one who finds Enlightenment bloated, too busy and too hard to read? I'm willing to listen to those who use it; but after trying it out last night, I'm not too willing to switch from my speedy and trusty fvwm2 or window maker. -- David J. Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Humans have an innate tendency to attribute significance to anomalies and coincidences. -- John Allen Paulos, mathematics professor at Temple University -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Why use Enlightenment?
On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 11:33:29AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: [...] Enlightenment seems to be as fast as any other window manager on my P133/80Meg machine, and E is a quite a bit more attractive than any other WM I've seen (I should perhaps phrase this as `most of the other WMs I've seen are really ugly'). [WindowMaker looks alright, but I find its icon/icon-dock behavior just too wacky to be usable...] Does the current incarnation of E already have a desktop pager with the same functionality as fvwm2? Some time ago it didn't, and for me it is one of the features I like most (and use heavily) about fvwm2. Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Eindhoven Univ. of Technology Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (SKA)
Re: Why use Enlightenment?
E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does the current incarnation of E already have a desktop pager with the same functionality as fvwm2? Some time ago it didn't, and for me it is one of the features I like most (and use heavily) about fvwm2. I can't give a real answer, since I don't use WM pagers, but E seems to have a fairly whizzy one, as well as about a billion other ways of dealing with multiple virtual screens (none of which I use)... -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
Re: Why use Enlightenment?
I'll second (or third) the I like E, but now I'm using sawmill senitment. I had no clear reason for moving from E to sawmill other than the fact that sawmill seemed a little more minimalist which is what I like in a window manager. If you like to hack your window manager and you're addicted to CVS, E may very well be the wm for you. Otherwise, I would recommendend checking out sawmill. The fact that it has the ability to more or less reproduce E themes is pretty cool, too. -- Brian J. Stults Doctoral Candidate University at Albany - SUNY Phone: (518) 442-4652 Fax: (518) 442-4936 Web: www.albany.edu/~bs7452
Why use Enlightenment?
Am I the only one who finds Enlightenment bloated, too busy and too hard to read? I'm willing to listen to those who use it; but after trying it out last night, I'm not too willing to switch from my speedy and trusty fvwm2 or window maker. -- David J. Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Humans have an innate tendency to attribute significance to anomalies and coincidences. -- John Allen Paulos, mathematics professor at Temple University
Re: Why use Enlightenment?
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 07:21:28AM -0600, David J. Kanter wrote: Am I the only one who finds Enlightenment bloated, too busy and too hard to read? I'm willing to listen to those who use it; but after trying it out last night, I'm not too willing to switch from my speedy and trusty fvwm2 or window maker. You're far from the only one. I, for one, went back and forth between Enlightenment and WindowMaker for a while. I'll admit, I liked Enlightenment's look (and themes), but I definately prefered WM's speed. This week, I've started using Sawmill and I love it. All the eye candy that I want, and it runs quite fast. IMO, it and Gnome make a good combination. -- David Raynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am Coach, Programmer, Screwball You're never too old to be immature. Personal Home Page http://www.toad.net/~rayners/ Forget world peace, visualize using your turn signal. - Bumper Sticker
