Re: Why wdm opens a TCP port?

2002-05-17 Thread Petteri Heinonen


Noah Meyerhans wrote:
 
 On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 10:34:32AM +0300, Petteri Heinonen wrote:
  Does anybody know how to configure wdm so that it doesn't open
  TCP port 1030 when started? I guess this is not a big security
  threat, but I've tried to keep open ports in minimum, and I
  can't see why this one would be necessary either. I have to
  admit that I don't know the purpose of this open port, but for
  example gdm, which I've used in some other boxes, doesn't, at
  least by default, open any ports.
 
 Edit /etc/X11/wdm/Xservers and add '-nolisten tcp' to the line that
 looks like
 :0 local /usr/bin/X11/X
 
 See if that fixes things.  If not, then it's a bug and I must fix it
 since I am the wdm maintainer.
 
 noah
 

I had already done that. That supresses the X from opening a port, but
still the wdm process (seen with netstat -atp) keeps open the port 1030.

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Re: Why wdm opens a TCP port?

2002-05-17 Thread Petteri Heinonen


Eric G. Miller wrote:
 
 On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:01:23PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
  On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 10:34:32AM +0300, Petteri Heinonen wrote:
   Does anybody know how to configure wdm so that it doesn't open
   TCP port 1030 when started? I guess this is not a big security
   threat, but I've tried to keep open ports in minimum, and I
   can't see why this one would be necessary either. I have to
   admit that I don't know the purpose of this open port, but for
   example gdm, which I've used in some other boxes, doesn't, at
   least by default, open any ports.
 
  Edit /etc/X11/wdm/Xservers and add '-nolisten tcp' to the line that
  looks like
  :0 local /usr/bin/X11/X
 
  See if that fixes things.  If not, then it's a bug and I must fix it
  since I am the wdm maintainer.
 
 Only thing is, the X ports are 6000-7, according to /etc/services.
 Sure the 1030 port is not for some local use only?  Is it always the
 same port?  The ports doesn't appear to match any reserved ones in
 /etc/services...  Don't use wdm myself, so...
 
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Yes, it's not the _X_ which keeps open the port, but the _wdm_. But the
port indeed changed every time I restarted the wdm. I just restarted it
couple of times, and the port numbers were 1083, 1084, 1085, etc. Very
odd...

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Re: Why wdm opens a TCP port?

2002-05-17 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 08:54:04AM +0300, Petteri Heinonen wrote:

 Yes, it's not the _X_ which keeps open the port, but the _wdm_. But the
 port indeed changed every time I restarted the wdm. I just restarted it
 couple of times, and the port numbers were 1083, 1084, 1085, etc. Very
 odd...

It's not that odd really.  What address range is reported?  I'm going to
guess it's only listening on the local loopback.  Also, try telnetting
to the address:port.  Does it hang and time out?  Do you get connection
refused?  It would seem WDM sets up a TCP port to communicate between a
parent and child (more than one WDM process running?) and therefore
doesn't really care what port is used (lets the OS decide).

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Re: Why wdm opens a TCP port?

2002-05-17 Thread Petteri Heinonen
Eric G. Miller wrote:
 
 On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 08:54:04AM +0300, Petteri Heinonen wrote:
 
  Yes, it's not the _X_ which keeps open the port, but the _wdm_. But the
  port indeed changed every time I restarted the wdm. I just restarted it
  couple of times, and the port numbers were 1083, 1084, 1085, etc. Very
  odd...
 
 It's not that odd really.  What address range is reported?  I'm going to
 guess it's only listening on the local loopback.  Also, try telnetting
 to the address:port.  Does it hang and time out?  Do you get connection
 refused?  It would seem WDM sets up a TCP port to communicate between a
 parent and child (more than one WDM process running?) and therefore
 doesn't really care what port is used (lets the OS decide).
 
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Netstat reports that foreign address is *:*, and I indeed
_can_ connect to it with telnet, altough if I send anything to
it with the telnet, the connection gets closed. Further, there
is only one wdm process running. Maybe I'll just trust my
iptables :) But anyway it would be nice to know what is the
purpose of this kind of behaviour, and how can it be turned
off.

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Re: Why wdm opens a TCP port?

2002-05-17 Thread Petteri Heinonen
Petteri Heinonen wrote:
 
 Eric G. Miller wrote:
 
  On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 08:54:04AM +0300, Petteri Heinonen wrote:
 
   Yes, it's not the _X_ which keeps open the port, but the _wdm_. But the
   port indeed changed every time I restarted the wdm. I just restarted it
   couple of times, and the port numbers were 1083, 1084, 1085, etc. Very
   odd...
 
  It's not that odd really.  What address range is reported?  I'm going to
  guess it's only listening on the local loopback.  Also, try telnetting
  to the address:port.  Does it hang and time out?  Do you get connection
  refused?  It would seem WDM sets up a TCP port to communicate between a
  parent and child (more than one WDM process running?) and therefore
  doesn't really care what port is used (lets the OS decide).
 
  --
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 Netstat reports that foreign address is *:*, and I indeed
 _can_ connect to it with telnet, altough if I send anything to
 it with the telnet, the connection gets closed. Further, there
 is only one wdm process running. Maybe I'll just trust my
 iptables :) But anyway it would be nice to know what is the
 purpose of this kind of behaviour, and how can it be turned
 off.
 
And one more thing which might help, at least the package
maintainer who was here some time ago: I'm using unstable
packages, and the version of the wdm is 1.20-15.

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Re: Why wdm opens a TCP port?

2002-05-17 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 10:45:36AM +0300, Petteri Heinonen wrote:

 Netstat reports that foreign address is *:*, and I indeed
 _can_ connect to it with telnet, altough if I send anything to
 it with the telnet, the connection gets closed. Further, there
 is only one wdm process running. Maybe I'll just trust my
 iptables :) But anyway it would be nice to know what is the
 purpose of this kind of behaviour, and how can it be turned
 off.

Okay, well that doesn't sound very good.  I'm not sure why WDM would
want a TCP socket open on a random port, when a UNIX socket or even
pipes could probably meet the need for what it's doing without opening a
public port.

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Why wdm opens a TCP port?

2002-05-16 Thread Petteri Heinonen

Hello all.

Does anybody know how to configure wdm so that it doesn't open
TCP port 1030 when started? I guess this is not a big security
threat, but I've tried to keep open ports in minimum, and I
can't see why this one would be necessary either. I have to
admit that I don't know the purpose of this open port, but for
example gdm, which I've used in some other boxes, doesn't, at
least by default, open any ports.

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Re: Why wdm opens a TCP port?

2002-05-16 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 10:34:32AM +0300, Petteri Heinonen wrote:
 Does anybody know how to configure wdm so that it doesn't open
 TCP port 1030 when started? I guess this is not a big security
 threat, but I've tried to keep open ports in minimum, and I
 can't see why this one would be necessary either. I have to
 admit that I don't know the purpose of this open port, but for
 example gdm, which I've used in some other boxes, doesn't, at
 least by default, open any ports.

Edit /etc/X11/wdm/Xservers and add '-nolisten tcp' to the line that
looks like
:0 local /usr/bin/X11/X

See if that fixes things.  If not, then it's a bug and I must fix it
since I am the wdm maintainer.

noah

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Re: Why wdm opens a TCP port?

2002-05-16 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:01:23PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
 On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 10:34:32AM +0300, Petteri Heinonen wrote:
  Does anybody know how to configure wdm so that it doesn't open
  TCP port 1030 when started? I guess this is not a big security
  threat, but I've tried to keep open ports in minimum, and I
  can't see why this one would be necessary either. I have to
  admit that I don't know the purpose of this open port, but for
  example gdm, which I've used in some other boxes, doesn't, at
  least by default, open any ports.
 
 Edit /etc/X11/wdm/Xservers and add '-nolisten tcp' to the line that
 looks like
 :0 local /usr/bin/X11/X
 
 See if that fixes things.  If not, then it's a bug and I must fix it
 since I am the wdm maintainer.

Only thing is, the X ports are 6000-7, according to /etc/services.
Sure the 1030 port is not for some local use only?  Is it always the
same port?  The ports doesn't appear to match any reserved ones in
/etc/services...  Don't use wdm myself, so...

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