Re: Window Manager doesn't start
On Tuesday 14 Jan 2003 15:51, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 03:11:36PM +, Harvey Kelly wrote: Don't know what has happened. Wasn't doing anything unusual yesterday. But now after I type startx I don't get a window manager (and I've tried kde, gnome, blackbox). X itself starts, I get the nasty nvidia logo splash screen, but then it shuts down - and this with root too. Why has it started messing me around? Is .xinitrc broken? Try putting a simple 'xterm' at the top and then running the rest by hand to see where it breaks. Ha! Putting exec xterm in .xinitrc worked, as did exec kde2. Normally I just have a .xsession with: #exec blackbox #exec ion exec kde2 #exec wmaker and nothing else - should I just use .xinitrc instead then? And why has .xsession suddenly starting playing around? Many thanks, Harvey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Window Manager doesn't start
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 03:33:38PM +, Harvey Kelly wrote: On Tuesday 14 Jan 2003 15:51, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 03:11:36PM +, Harvey Kelly wrote: Don't know what has happened. Wasn't doing anything unusual yesterday. But now after I type startx I don't get a window manager (and I've tried kde, gnome, blackbox). X itself starts, I get the nasty nvidia logo splash screen, but then it shuts down - and this with root too. Why has it started messing me around? Is .xinitrc broken? Try putting a simple 'xterm' at the top and then running the rest by hand to see where it breaks. Ha! Putting exec xterm in .xinitrc worked, as did exec kde2. Right, it will certainly work, but my point was that that was pretty much guaranteed to work. Once you have an X display up with just an xterm in it, you can then run the other things that are normally in .xinitrc by hand and see where they go wrong. Normally I just have a .xsession with: #exec blackbox #exec ion exec kde2 #exec wmaker and nothing else - should I just use .xinitrc instead then? And why has .xsession suddenly starting playing around? To my knowledge, startx has only ever used .xinitrc, not .xsession ... I don't know why it used to work. Maybe you had a symlink in place at one point? My .xinitrc at work reads: #! /bin/sh xrdb -merge .Xresources exec $HOME/.xsession I don't think this gets me quite the same environment as I do when logging in normally using a display manager (which just uses .xsession), but it serves well enough for the odd occasion when the display manager breaks. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Window Manager doesn't start
This one time, at band camp, Colin Watson said: To my knowledge, startx has only ever used .xinitrc, not .xsession ... I don't know why it used to work. Maybe you had a symlink in place at one point? I don't know if that's true - I don't have an .xinitrc, just an .xsession, and startx does The Right Thing here. -- -- | Stephen Gran | One father is more than a hundred | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | schoolmasters. -- George Herbert | | http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | | -- msg24341/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Window Manager doesn't start
Colin Watson wrote: To my knowledge, startx has only ever used .xinitrc, not .xsession ... I don't know why it used to work. Maybe you had a symlink in place at one point? man startx: [...] Note that in the Debian system, what many people traditionally put in the .xinitrc file should go in .xsession instead; this permits the same X environment to be presented whether startx, xdm, or xinit is used to start the X session. All discussion of the .xinitrc file in the xinit(1) manual page applies equally well to .xsession. Keep in mind that .xinitrc is used only by xinit(1) and completely ignored by xdm(1). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Window Manager doesn't start
Colin == Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and nothing else - should I just use .xinitrc instead then? And why has .xsession suddenly starting playing around? Colin To my knowledge, startx has only ever used .xinitrc, not Colin .xsession ... I don't know why it used to work. Maybe you Colin had a symlink in place at one point? I was under the impression Debian encourages the use of .xsession instead of .xinitrc just so you get the same environment with various login managers. See 'man startx' for this suggestion. Colin My .xinitrc at work reads: Colin #! /bin/sh xrdb -merge .Xresources exec $HOME/.xsession Colin I don't think this gets me quite the same environment as I Colin do when logging in normally using a display manager (which Colin just uses .xsession), but it serves well enough for the odd Colin occasion when the display manager breaks. startx runs ~/.xinitrc if there is such a file, but otherwise runs xinit. This basically results in the executions of the files in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ where your ~/.xsession file gets sourced. Looking in that directory is actually quite instructive. Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Window Manager doesn't start
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 08:28:17PM -0500, Travis Crump wrote: Colin Watson wrote: To my knowledge, startx has only ever used .xinitrc, not .xsession ... I don't know why it used to work. Maybe you had a symlink in place at one point? man startx: [...] Note that in the Debian system, what many people traditionally put in the .xinitrc file should go in .xsession instead; Ah, fair enough. My knowledge of startx dates back to when I used to use Red Hat. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Window Manager doesn't start
Shyamal == Shyamal Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shyamal startx runs ~/.xinitrc if there is such a file, but Shyamal otherwise runs xinit. This basically results in the Shyamal executions of the files in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ where Shyamal your ~/.xsession file gets sourced. Looking in that Shyamal directory is actually quite instructive. Duh. That first sentence should have been startx runs xinit with ~/.xinitrc if there is such a file, but otherwise runs xinit with the systemwide... It's all in 'man startx' anyway. I should've just said that ;-) Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Window Manager doesn't start
Hi All, Apologies: I'm using Mutt instead of KMail to write this (due to reason listed below) and can't remember how to get vim to wrap. Sorry. Don't know what has happened. Wasn't doing anything unusual yesterday. But now after I type startx I don't get a window manager (and I've tried kde, gnome, blackbox). X itself starts, I get the nasty nvidia logo splash screen, but then it shuts down - and this with root too. Why has it started messing me around? Thanks. Harvey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Window Manager doesn't start
What error message the display shows ? For instance, try $xinit -- : 2 --Baroni --- Harvey Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Hi All, Apologies: I'm using Mutt instead of KMail to write this (due to reason listed below) and can't remember how to get vim to wrap. Sorry. Don't know what has happened. Wasn't doing anything unusual yesterday. But now after I type startx I don't get a window manager (and I've tried kde, gnome, blackbox). X itself starts, I get the nasty nvidia logo splash screen, but then it shuts down - and this with root too. Why has it started messing me around? Thanks. Harvey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Busca Yahoo! O melhor lugar para encontrar tudo o que você procura na Internet http://br.busca.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Window Manager doesn't start
What error message the display shows ? For instance, try $xinit -- : 2 --Baroni --- Harvey Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Hi All, Apologies: I'm using Mutt instead of KMail to write this (due to reason listed below) and can't remember how to get vim to wrap. Sorry. Don't know what has happened. Wasn't doing anything unusual yesterday. But now after I type startx I don't get a window manager (and I've tried kde, gnome, blackbox). X itself starts, I get the nasty nvidia logo splash screen, but then it shuts down - and this with root too. Why has it started messing me around? Thanks. Harvey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Busca Yahoo! O melhor lugar para encontrar tudo o que você procura na Internet http://br.busca.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Window Manager doesn't start
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 03:11:36PM +, Harvey Kelly wrote: Apologies: I'm using Mutt instead of KMail to write this (due to reason listed below) and can't remember how to get vim to wrap. Sorry. 'gqaction', so 'gqip' will wrap the current paragraph, for instance. Don't know what has happened. Wasn't doing anything unusual yesterday. But now after I type startx I don't get a window manager (and I've tried kde, gnome, blackbox). X itself starts, I get the nasty nvidia logo splash screen, but then it shuts down - and this with root too. Why has it started messing me around? Is .xinitrc broken? Try putting a simple 'xterm' at the top and then running the rest by hand to see where it breaks. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
