Re: Wireless Network Cards
Magnus Therning wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 05:13:02PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: [snipped...] Your biggest problem will be to find out what chipset a specific card you are holding in your hands has. But every project I mentioned maintains some sort of compatiblity list. Yes, that is a BIG problem. Especially since quite a few manufacturers are in the habit of switching the chipset without disclosing that anywhere on the boxes :-( When I was shoping around I ended up buying from an online store that offered Linux compatible HW. It ended up being about £5 more (including shipping) but it was worth not having to worry about compatibility. The RT cards are also well supported in Linux, the package is called rt2500-source and the module can be built with module-assistant. I don't know what chipset is uses, but I bought a Linksys WMP54G card. One of the reviews said they'd got it running under Kubuntu via native support. I'm assuming I'll still need to install this wireless-tools package. Does anyone now what other kind of config I'll need to do, or will Debian just pick it up like any other network card...? Cheers, -- bob [at] bobarnott [dot] com http://www.bobarnott.com/ Crash programs fail because they are based on theory that, with nine women pregnant, you can get a baby in a month. -- Wernher von Braun -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless Network Cards
Am Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2006 18:19 schrieb Bob: Magnus Therning wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 05:13:02PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: [snipped...] Your biggest problem will be to find out what chipset a specific card you are holding in your hands has. But every project I mentioned maintains some sort of compatiblity list. Yes, that is a BIG problem. Especially since quite a few manufacturers are in the habit of switching the chipset without disclosing that anywhere on the boxes :-( When I was shoping around I ended up buying from an online store that offered Linux compatible HW. It ended up being about £5 more (including shipping) but it was worth not having to worry about compatibility. The RT cards are also well supported in Linux, the package is called rt2500-source and the module can be built with module-assistant. I don't know what chipset is uses, but I bought a Linksys WMP54G card. One of the reviews said they'd got it running under Kubuntu via native support. I'm assuming I'll still need to install this wireless-tools package. Does anyone now what other kind of config I'll need to do, or will Debian just pick it up like any other network card...? AFAIK there are not much wlan drivers in the kernel, so you have to find out which chipset your card uses (with lspci) and install the driver manually. Or maybe you are lucky and there is a package for that driver. And configuration depends on the driver. regards Christoph
Re: Wireless Network Cards
On May 08 2006, Magnus Therning wrote: The RT cards are also well supported in Linux, the package is called rt2500-source and the module can be built with module-assistant. I second that. I have D-Link cards with the rt chipsets and they work well for my needs under Linux. Regards, Rogério Brito. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wireless Network Cards
Hello list, I've never installed a PCI wireless network card before, I've always run my boxes with wires. However, I've moved to a new house and the easiest thing to do is put wireless cards in my boxes. Is it as easy as pluging the card in and it all just working, or do I need to install some other packages? I'm running Etch with a 2.6 kernel. Cheers, -- Bobhttp://www.bobarnott.com/ Lager is an imitation Continental beer drunk only by refined ladies, people with digestive ailments, tourists, and other weaklings. - Munchen Süddeutsche Zeitung -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless Network Cards
On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 15:42 +0100, Bob wrote: Hello list, I've never installed a PCI wireless network card before, I've always run my boxes with wires. However, I've moved to a new house and the easiest thing to do is put wireless cards in my boxes. Is it as easy as pluging the card in and it all just working, or do I need to install some other packages? I'm running Etch with a 2.6 kernel. # aptitude install wireless-tools you may need to compile some modules or whatnot, i compile my own kernels, so i cannot speak about the debian kernels. -- Matt Zagrabelny - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (218) 726 8844 University of Minnesota Duluth Information Technology Systems Services PGP key 1024D/84E22DA2 2005-11-07 Fingerprint: 78F9 18B3 EF58 56F5 FC85 C5CA 53E7 887F 84E2 2DA2 He is not a fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. -Jim Elliot signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Wireless Network Cards
Bob: Is it as easy as pluging the card in and it all just working, or do I need to install some other packages? I'm running Etch with a 2.6 kernel. It depends on your card. And most probably (if you go out and just buy some random card) it will involve some work. It may even be impossible if you pick the wrong card. You might want to google around for supported cards. Chipsets which I have positive experience with are prism54, ipw2100, ipw2200 and the atheros chips (supported by madwifi). All except the latter one are in the vanilla kernel (but I don't think there are PCI versions of the ipw chips). It helps if you know how to compile a custom kernel and/or how to compile kernel modules against the appropriate linux-headers package. Your biggest problem will be to find out what chipset a specific card you are holding in your hands has. But every project I mentioned maintains some sort of compatiblity list. J. -- If I won the lottery I would keep all the money and wallpaper my house with it. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Wireless Network Cards
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 05:13:02PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Bob: Is it as easy as pluging the card in and it all just working, or do I need to install some other packages? I'm running Etch with a 2.6 kernel. It depends on your card. And most probably (if you go out and just buy some random card) it will involve some work. It may even be impossible if you pick the wrong card. You might want to google around for supported cards. Chipsets which I have positive experience with are prism54, ipw2100, ipw2200 and the atheros chips (supported by madwifi). All except the latter one are in the vanilla kernel (but I don't think there are PCI versions of the ipw chips). It helps if you know how to compile a custom kernel and/or how to compile kernel modules against the appropriate linux-headers package. Your biggest problem will be to find out what chipset a specific card you are holding in your hands has. But every project I mentioned maintains some sort of compatiblity list. Yes, that is a BIG problem. Especially since quite a few manufacturers are in the habit of switching the chipset without disclosing that anywhere on the boxes :-( When I was shoping around I ended up buying from an online store that offered Linux compatible HW. It ended up being about £5 more (including shipping) but it was worth not having to worry about compatibility. The RT cards are also well supported in Linux, the package is called rt2500-source and the module can be built with module-assistant. /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://therning.org/magnus Software is not manufactured, it is something you write and publish. Keep Europe free from software patents, we do not want censorship by patent law on written works. Here's the social reason that DRM fails: keeping an honest user honest is like keeping a tall user tall. -- Cory Doctorow, Microsoft Research DRM talk pgpDhnL7KvSQt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Wireless Network Cards
Magnus Therning wrote: snip Yes, that is a BIG problem. Especially since quite a few manufacturers are in the habit of switching the chipset without disclosing that anywhere on the boxes :-( When I was shoping around I ended up buying from an online store that offered Linux compatible HW. It ended up being about £5 more (including shipping) but it was worth not having to worry about compatibility. The RT cards are also well supported in Linux, the package is called rt2500-source and the module can be built with module-assistant. /M Ofcourse native Linux support is politically more correct. However ndiswrapper with the Windoze driver will also do the trick. Jan -- ** Do NOT use the reply-to address. You'll end up in the trash can ** Mail me at: jan AT schledermann D0T org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and wireless network cards
On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 09:07:50AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 08:06:17PM -0400, Leonid Grinberg wrote: Hello, I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't know). I posted this question last week when I lost the antenna to my Netgear MA211 wireless lan card and was advised the best uptodate info was at http://Linux-Wireless.org That didn't help much. I then went to www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan-adapters.html.gz because I use the linux-wlan-ng=0.2.1-pre26 driver with my Netgear MA311 card. From the table I ordered a 3com 3crdw696 PCI wireless lan card for my second computer. I have not yet received the card and will confirm that it works with the linux-wlan-ng driver when it comes. This is old technology - 802.11b - but with a DSL connection downloads run at 70 to 90 kBps. New 3com cards were being sold at $ 29. The 3com card does work with the linux-wlan-ng driver but the range is terrible. In the same location where the Netgear MA311 card is connecting with a weak but acceptable signal the 3com card drops 25% of the packets when pinging the base station. Others may have better advice - it was frustrating trying to find the latest and best information. Tom George Thanks, Leonid Grinberg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and wireless network cards
Thomas H. George wrote: Others may have better advice - it was frustrating trying to find the latest and best information. Mostly the manufacturer's fault. When there's four devices called [model number] and no version numbers, who's to blame for all the confusion? Or perhaps they enjoy confusing customers who buy their products based on the product name. Still looking for a hardware vendor to support that is actively avoiding this silliness who also provides ample support to the Linux driver writers for their cards. Nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and wireless network cards
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 08:06:17PM -0400, Leonid Grinberg wrote: Hello, I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't know). I posted this question last week when I lost the antenna to my Netgear MA211 wireless lan card and was advised the best uptodate info was at http://Linux-Wireless.org That didn't help much. I then went to www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan-adapters.html.gz because I use the linux-wlan-ng=0.2.1-pre26 driver with my Netgear MA311 card. From the table I ordered a 3com 3crdw696 PCI wireless lan card for my second computer. I have not yet received the card and will confirm that it works with the linux-wlan-ng driver when it comes. This is old technology - 802.11b - but with a DSL connection downloads run at 70 to 90 kBps. New 3com cards were being sold at $ 29. Others may have better advice - it was frustrating trying to find the latest and best information. Tom George Thanks, Leonid Grinberg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and wireless network cards
On Thursday 21 July 2005 19:06, Leonid Grinberg wrote: Hello, I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't know). Thanks, Leonid Grinberg Leonid, Two cards have worked for me: 1. SMC EX Connect G Mod# SMC2835W it uses the Prism54 driver which is in 2.6 series kernel, you need to download the Firmware (a file the tells the card how to work) and put it in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware ( see http://prism54.org/~mcgrof/firmware/ and www.prism54.org ) 2. Orinoco gold 11b/g PC card Mod# 8470-FC . This card is by far the better of the two in that it allows you to use WPA if you need it. Both use WEP. The Orinoco uses Atheros drivers and is slightly harder to install. see http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/, http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/, the best up and running instructions are http://www.madwifi.net/. You will need to have a dev. environment set up (gcc, debhelper, sysutils, and a few more I don't remember) But don't dispare! on irc Freenode server #madwifi channel you can get friendly help. It all is realy easy, but time consuming the first time and requires a kernel compile or kernel headers installed. I hope that helps. Yes it all is very hard to get info on wireless. But that is becuse of the MFG all just change the chipset on the fly and don't bother to change the model numbers. That and the drivers are protected IP (such as the Prism54 family) and have to be backwards engineered. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and wireless network cards
On Thursday 21 July 2005 19:06, Leonid Grinberg wrote: Hello, I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't know). Thanks, Leonid Grinberg Leonid, Two cards have worked for me: 1. SMC EX Connect G Mod# SMC2835W it uses the Prism54 driver which is in 2.6 series kernel, you need to download the Firmware (a file the tells the card how to work) and put it in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware ( see http://prism54.org/~mcgrof/firmware/ and www.prism54.org ) 2. Orinoco gold 11b/g PC card Mod# 8470-FC . This card is by far the better of the two in that it allows you to use WPA if you need it. Both use WEP. The Orinoco uses Atheros drivers and is slightly harder to install. see http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/, http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/, the best up and running instructions are http://www.madwifi.net/. You will need to have a dev. environment set up (gcc, debhelper, sysutils, and a few more I don't remember) But don't dispare! on irc Freenode server #madwifi channel you can get friendly help. It all is realy easy, but time consuming the first time and requires a kernel compile or kernel headers installed. I hope that helps. Yes it all is very hard to get info on wireless. But that is becuse of the MFG all just change the chipset on the fly and don't bother to change the model numbers. That and the drivers are protected IP (such as the Prism54 family) and have to be backwards engineered. Addendium: Omitted the first time: The Orinoco goes by the name of Proxim and can be purchased online. To use WPA I advise you apt-getting wpasupplicant. Read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant to set it up. Once again, it is easy, but you have to read. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and wireless network cards
I just solved this dilemma two days ago. I found the hawking hwp54g works well and is pretty inexpensive. Hawking has used a few different chipsets but IIRC they all have linux drivers in varying degrees of development. The one that I bought has a Ralink rt2500 chipset, and the driver for it is actually based on code donated to the community from Ralink, which is always a good sign. http://www.hawkingtech.com/prodSpec.php?ProdID=180 http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Leonid Grinberg wrote: Hello, I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't know). Thanks, Leonid Grinberg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and wireless network cards
I have an D-link DWL-650 working with Debian Sarge kernel 2.6. 2005/7/21, Leonid Grinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't know). Thanks, Leonid Grinberg -- Maykon Silveira
Debian and wireless network cards
Hello, I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't know). Thanks, Leonid Grinberg
Re: Debian and wireless network cards
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Leonid Grinberg wrote: Hello, I was asked by a friend to install Debian on his system. He asked me about which wireless network cards Debian supports. Can anybody tell me which ones (I personally don't use a wireless network so I wouldn't know). all wireless cards will work if you're willing to sacrifice features - linux can use the ndiswrapper and use the windoze driver from the cdrom that came with the nic if you want to build a wireless AP or wpa .. - you will need either the hostap driver or madwifi driver and see which cards it supports - be careful of old models and new models with the same part number but differs in which wifi chip is used on the pci/pcmcia cards --- if you want wep, you can use most any other linux supported wifi cards - if you're using wep as your security mechanism, than consider your machine pre-hacked and keep all your bank info elsewhere - run everything with ssh/ssl if you're paranoid ssh, pop3s, imaps, https, .. --- easier way: a. see what is on sale and search for the linux drivers b. see what your buddy is using and use that wifi card more wifi fun Linux-Wireless.org c ya alvin -- for those that are looking to do a mediaum range 5-10 miles wifi, i've got two 24db wifi antenna that we'll be testing -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
