Re: X: display refreshing just stops

2010-03-31 Thread Perttu Muurimäki
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net writes:

 On 2010-03-30 00:21, Perttu Muurimäki wrote:
 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net writes:

 On 2010-03-27 12:57, Perttu Muurimäki wrote:
 Hi again,

 Problem: Screen freezes until I touch any key or move the mouse.
 When does the freeze *start*?

 Sometimes when I'm not typing or moving the mouse. Once per 5 minutes
 perhaps. Usually when something else is going on - for example typing
 url and waiting for the browser to render the page just to realize that
 it has done so several seconds ago but display doesn't show
 it. Sometimes in the middle of window managers menu creation. I can see
 the whole menu area but it contains only half of the entries.

  For
 minutes I can just stare at Gkrellm and see the clock (and everything
 else) not doing anything. Everything on screen has stopped at whatever
 they were doing at the moment it freezed. However, in the background
 everything works (so the machine itself is alright) since the second I
 touch 'shift' -key the display comes back alive and I see things - that
 were running when display freezed - finished. This happens every few
 minutes. I am developing a shift -hitting habit :|

 I'm not sure whether kernel or X is the culprit. Graphics chip is intel
 845g and the X-driver is xserver-xorg-video-intel. Kernel is
 linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.32 and I've tried with kernel mode setting and
 without.

 My first guess is xserver-xorg-video-intel, but I've been wrong before.


This time You were right :) I found an oldish nvidia card in our stuff
room and with that (and xserver-xorg-video-nv) everything seems to work
flawlessly. Now that the culprit is known I can file a decent bug report
against it. Thank You.

 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 Can you ssh in from a different machine while it's frozen?

 YES! In fact I've tested this by going two floors down to server room,
 login there, ssh from there to my workstation, find that everything works and
 then come back. Nothing on the screen has changed!

 When that happens again, I'd run back down to the server room, ssh in
 and tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors.

 -- 
 History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak
 or the timid.  Dwight Eisenhower

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Re: X: display refreshing just stops

2010-03-29 Thread Perttu Muurimäki
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net writes:

 On 2010-03-27 12:57, Perttu Muurimäki wrote:
 Hi again,

 Problem: Screen freezes until I touch any key or move the mouse.

 When does the freeze *start*?

Sometimes when I'm not typing or moving the mouse. Once per 5 minutes
perhaps. Usually when something else is going on - for example typing
url and waiting for the browser to render the page just to realize that
it has done so several seconds ago but display doesn't show
it. Sometimes in the middle of window managers menu creation. I can see
the whole menu area but it contains only half of the entries.


  For
 minutes I can just stare at Gkrellm and see the clock (and everything
 else) not doing anything. Everything on screen has stopped at whatever
 they were doing at the moment it freezed. However, in the background
 everything works (so the machine itself is alright) since the second I
 touch 'shift' -key the display comes back alive and I see things - that
 were running when display freezed - finished. This happens every few
 minutes. I am developing a shift -hitting habit :|

 I'm not sure whether kernel or X is the culprit. Graphics chip is intel
 845g and the X-driver is xserver-xorg-video-intel. Kernel is
 linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.32 and I've tried with kernel mode setting and
 without.

 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.


 Can you ssh in from a different machine while it's frozen?

YES! In fact I've tested this by going two floors down to server room,
login there, ssh from there to my workstation, find that everything works and
then come back. Nothing on the screen has changed!

 -- 
 History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak
 or the timid.  Dwight Eisenhower

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Re: X: display refreshing just stops

2010-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2010-03-30 00:21, Perttu Muurimäki wrote:

Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net writes:


On 2010-03-27 12:57, Perttu Muurimäki wrote:

Hi again,

Problem: Screen freezes until I touch any key or move the mouse.

When does the freeze *start*?


Sometimes when I'm not typing or moving the mouse. Once per 5 minutes
perhaps. Usually when something else is going on - for example typing
url and waiting for the browser to render the page just to realize that
it has done so several seconds ago but display doesn't show
it. Sometimes in the middle of window managers menu creation. I can see
the whole menu area but it contains only half of the entries.


 For
minutes I can just stare at Gkrellm and see the clock (and everything
else) not doing anything. Everything on screen has stopped at whatever
they were doing at the moment it freezed. However, in the background
everything works (so the machine itself is alright) since the second I
touch 'shift' -key the display comes back alive and I see things - that
were running when display freezed - finished. This happens every few
minutes. I am developing a shift -hitting habit :|

I'm not sure whether kernel or X is the culprit. Graphics chip is intel
845g and the X-driver is xserver-xorg-video-intel. Kernel is
linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.32 and I've tried with kernel mode setting and
without.


My first guess is xserver-xorg-video-intel, but I've been wrong before.


Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.


Can you ssh in from a different machine while it's frozen?


YES! In fact I've tested this by going two floors down to server room,
login there, ssh from there to my workstation, find that everything works and
then come back. Nothing on the screen has changed!


When that happens again, I'd run back down to the server room, ssh 
in and tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors.


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X: display refreshing just stops

2010-03-27 Thread Perttu Muurimäki

Hi again,

Problem: Screen freezes until I touch any key or move the mouse. For
minutes I can just stare at Gkrellm and see the clock (and everything
else) not doing anything. Everything on screen has stopped at whatever
they were doing at the moment it freezed. However, in the background
everything works (so the machine itself is alright) since the second I
touch 'shift' -key the display comes back alive and I see things - that
were running when display freezed - finished. This happens every few
minutes. I am developing a shift -hitting habit :|

I'm not sure whether kernel or X is the culprit. Graphics chip is intel
845g and the X-driver is xserver-xorg-video-intel. Kernel is
linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.32 and I've tried with kernel mode setting and
without.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: X: display refreshing just stops

2010-03-27 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2010-03-27 12:57, Perttu Muurimäki wrote:

Hi again,

Problem: Screen freezes until I touch any key or move the mouse.


When does the freeze *start*?


 For
minutes I can just stare at Gkrellm and see the clock (and everything
else) not doing anything. Everything on screen has stopped at whatever
they were doing at the moment it freezed. However, in the background
everything works (so the machine itself is alright) since the second I
touch 'shift' -key the display comes back alive and I see things - that
were running when display freezed - finished. This happens every few
minutes. I am developing a shift -hitting habit :|

I'm not sure whether kernel or X is the culprit. Graphics chip is intel
845g and the X-driver is xserver-xorg-video-intel. Kernel is
linux-image-2.6-amd64 2.6.32 and I've tried with kernel mode setting and
without.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.



Can you ssh in from a different machine while it's frozen?

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