X Win and Mouse

2002-12-29 Thread Hal Vaughan
Two mouse questions:

1) Can someone confirm for me (I'm having strange troubles, again...) that if 
I have a mouse port (ATX mobo w/ keyboard and mouse ports above each other), 
that it is configured as /dev/psaux  (no serial connection, no USB for the 
mouse -- just the mouse port next to the keyboard port).

2) Does anyone know how X behaves if it is looking for the mouse on the wrong 
port?  Does it not start, start w/out a mouse, keep restarting until it finds 
the mouse, or what?

Thanks!

Hal


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Re: X Win and Mouse

2002-12-29 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
Hal Vaughan said:
 2) Does anyone know how X behaves if it is looking for the mouse on the
 wrong  port?  Does it not start, start w/out a mouse, keep restarting
 until it finds  the mouse, or what?

It will fail to start, and you will see a message about not being able to
initialize a mouse...




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Re: X Win and Mouse

2002-12-29 Thread Seneca
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 01:29:24PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote:
 Two mouse questions:
 
 1) Can someone confirm for me (I'm having strange troubles, again...) that if 
 I have a mouse port (ATX mobo w/ keyboard and mouse ports above each other), 
 that it is configured as /dev/psaux  (no serial connection, no USB for the 
 mouse -- just the mouse port next to the keyboard port).

If the port is PS/2, then the device is /dev/psaux. If the mouse is
acting strangely, you might want to make sure its clean, properly
plugged in, the proper drivers are being used, and that gpm (if
installed) is not causing problems.

 2) Does anyone know how X behaves if it is looking for the mouse on the wrong 
 port?  Does it not start, start w/out a mouse, keep restarting until it finds 
 the mouse, or what?

If no mouse is found, X doesn't start and it complains.

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Re: X Win and Mouse

2002-12-29 Thread Michael Naumann
29.12.2002 19:26:30, Matthew Daubenspeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hal Vaughan said:
 2) Does anyone know how X behaves if it is looking for the mouse on the
 wrong  port?  Does it not start, start w/out a mouse, keep restarting
 until it finds  the mouse, or what?

It will fail to start, and you will see a message about not being able to
initialize a mouse...

Yes, except you have in your XF86Config-4 

Section ServerFlags
  Option AllowMouseOpenFail
EndSection

HTH, Michael



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RE:Re: X Win and Mouse

2002-12-29 Thread Hell.Surfers
isnt mouseless X pointless, or shouldnt that be pointerless...

Regards, Dean.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 23:02:07 +0100 Michael Naumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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29.12.2002 19:26:30, Matthew Daubenspeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hal Vaughan said:
 2) Does anyone know how X behaves if it is looking for the mouse on the
 wrong  port?  Does it not start, start w/out a mouse, keep restarting
 until it finds  the mouse, or what?

It will fail to start, and you will see a message about not being able to
initialize a mouse...

Yes, except you have in your XF86Config-4 

Section ServerFlags
  Option AllowMouseOpenFail
EndSection

HTH, Michael



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Re: X Win and Mouse

2002-12-29 Thread Michael Naumann
29.12.2002 23:20:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

isnt mouseless X pointless, or shouldnt that be pointerless...

Regards, Dean.

Not for me. I admit that I have a mouse attached and fully functional,
but I avoid touching it as much as possible. (Well of course to limited
success as soon as it gets to gimp or alike)

I find it usefull to be able to get into X even with a missing mouse,
just in case some problem with that device occurs - be it only to avoid
a permanently respawning X in case of trouble. ( I once had this problem
with a SuSE-System. I'm not sure how debian would behave)

Cheers, Michael



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Re: Re: X Win and Mouse

2002-12-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 10:20:15PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 isnt mouseless X pointless, or shouldnt that be pointerless...

There's a neat trick you can use if you don't have a mouse or your mouse
breaks: hit Shift-NumLock and the cursor keys on your numeric keypad
will become a substitute mouse. If you don't use the mouse very often,
then this can be quite adequate.

(I've no idea how widely-supported the above trick is.)

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