SOLVED__Re: XF86Config-4 and XDMCP

2005-01-02 Thread Ridge Chittenden 

--- Darryl Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:56:34 -0800 (PST), Ridge
> Chittenden
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > OK, but that's what I don't really understand.
> Which
> > machine is running X?
> > 
> > Machine A (adam) is running gdm. From machine B
> > (byron), I log on to adam's gdm screen, which is
> > delivered by XDMCP. When I log on to adam from
> byron,
> > I use an adam user account; the display is on
> byron.
> > (adam has no monitor, keyboard or mouse.)
> > 
> > Is it adam or byron that needs the XF86Config-4?
> If
> > adam, what sort of "monitor" settings should I
> use, as
> > two machines with different kinds of monitors log
> on
> > to adam over XDMCP?
> 
> "byron" is running X.   I believe if you edit
> /etc/gdm/gdm.conf you
> can make gdm not load a local (on adam) gui.
> 
> When you connect to a machine with gdm (or xdm or
> any other display
> manager) you are essentially logging onto that
> machine. It's like
> using SSH to log into a shell, only your machine
> running X (byron) has
> the capability to display graphics.  Any
> applications you run on adam
> (say Mozilla) will connect to $DISPLAY (it's an
> environment variable)
> in this case byron; and byron will display with the
> application on
> adam says to display.
> 

Thanks! For the record: Editing /etc/gdm/gdm.conf on
adam and commenting out all the server lines seems to
do the trick--no KDE, until I log in remotely.
rc



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Re: XF86Config-4 and XDMCP

2005-01-02 Thread Darryl Clarke 
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:56:34 -0800 (PST), Ridge Chittenden
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> OK, but that's what I don't really understand. Which
> machine is running X?
> 
> Machine A (adam) is running gdm. From machine B
> (byron), I log on to adam's gdm screen, which is
> delivered by XDMCP. When I log on to adam from byron,
> I use an adam user account; the display is on byron.
> (adam has no monitor, keyboard or mouse.)
> 
> Is it adam or byron that needs the XF86Config-4? If
> adam, what sort of "monitor" settings should I use, as
> two machines with different kinds of monitors log on
> to adam over XDMCP?

"byron" is running X.   I believe if you edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf you
can make gdm not load a local (on adam) gui.

When you connect to a machine with gdm (or xdm or any other display
manager) you are essentially logging onto that machine. It's like
using SSH to log into a shell, only your machine running X (byron) has
the capability to display graphics.  Any applications you run on adam
(say Mozilla) will connect to $DISPLAY (it's an environment variable)
in this case byron; and byron will display with the application on
adam says to display.

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Re: XF86Config-4 and XDMCP

2005-01-02 Thread Ridge Chittenden 

--- Frank Gevaerts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 04:17:38PM -0800, Ridge
> Chittenden wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > (Another question, new thread Appreciate all
> the
> > help as I try to understand Debian and Linux.)
> > 
> > I have a machine running Debian Woody that's being
> > used as a server--no keyboard, no mouse, no
> monitor. I
> > have XDMCP set up so that I can log in to an X
> session
> > on the machine from another machine on my home
> > network.
> > 
> > The question: I want to slim down the machine as
> much
> > as I can (RAM is limited), and I don't want to
> load
> > stuff I don't have to. What do I really need in
> > XF86Config-4 for a machine that never has a local
> > display? Another way to put it is, does the video
> > card, monitor, mouse and keyboard information come
> > from the XF86Config-4 on the machine that's
> logging
> > in? Or the machine that's running X? 
> 
> The machine that's running X needs a normal full
> XF86Config-4, the
> machine serving XDMCP sessions does not need an
> XF86Config-4 file or an
> X server (package xserver-xfree86) at all.
> 
> Frank



OK, but that's what I don't really understand. Which
machine is running X? 

Machine A (adam) is running gdm. From machine B
(byron), I log on to adam's gdm screen, which is
delivered by XDMCP. When I log on to adam from byron,
I use an adam user account; the display is on byron.
(adam has no monitor, keyboard or mouse.)

Is it adam or byron that needs the XF86Config-4? If
adam, what sort of "monitor" settings should I use, as
two machines with different kinds of monitors log on
to adam over XDMCP?

Thanks.

rc 



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Re: XF86Config-4 and XDMCP

2005-01-01 Thread Frank Gevaerts 
On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 04:17:38PM -0800, Ridge Chittenden wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> (Another question, new thread Appreciate all the
> help as I try to understand Debian and Linux.)
> 
> I have a machine running Debian Woody that's being
> used as a server--no keyboard, no mouse, no monitor. I
> have XDMCP set up so that I can log in to an X session
> on the machine from another machine on my home
> network.
> 
> The question: I want to slim down the machine as much
> as I can (RAM is limited), and I don't want to load
> stuff I don't have to. What do I really need in
> XF86Config-4 for a machine that never has a local
> display? Another way to put it is, does the video
> card, monitor, mouse and keyboard information come
> from the XF86Config-4 on the machine that's logging
> in? Or the machine that's running X? 

The machine that's running X needs a normal full XF86Config-4, the
machine serving XDMCP sessions does not need an XF86Config-4 file or an
X server (package xserver-xfree86) at all.

Frank

> Perhaps most critically, do I need to have that i810
> section with the 8MB of video RAM borrowed from main
> memory?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> rc
> 
> Here's XF86Config-4:
> 
> 
> ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
> # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file)
> generated by dexconf, the
> # Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the
> debconf database.
> #
> # Edit this file with caution, and see the
> XF86Config-4 manual page.
> # (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
> #
> # If you want your changes to this file preserved by
> dexconf, only make changes
> # before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above,
> and/or after the
> # "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below.
> #
> # To change things within the debconf section, run the
> command:
> #   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
> # as root.  Also see "How do I add custom sections to
> a dexconf-generated
> # XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file?" in
> /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.
> 
> Section "Files"
> FontPath"unix/:7100"  
>  # local font server
> # if the local font server has problems, we
> can fall back on these
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
> FontPath   
> "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
> FontPath   
> "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
> Load"GLcore"
> Load"bitmap"
> Load"dbe"
> Load"ddc"
> Load"dri"
> Load"extmod"
> Load"freetype"
> Load"glx"
> Load"int10"
> Load"pex5"
> Load"record"
> Load"speedo"
> Load"type1"
> Load"vbe"
> Load"xie"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
> Driver  "keyboard"
> Option  "CoreKeyboard"
> Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
> Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
> Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "CorePointer"
> Option  "Device"   
> "/dev/psaux"
> Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
> Option  "Device"   
> "/dev/input/mice"
> Option  "Protocol" 
> "ImPS/2"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "Generic Video Card"
> Driver  "i810"
> VideoRam8192
> Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
> HorizSync   30-65
> VertRefresh 50-120
> Option  "DPMS"
> EndSection
> 
> 
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier  "Default Screen"
> Device  "Generic Video Card"
> Monitor "Generic Monitor"
> DefaultDepth24
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth   1
> Modes   "1024x768" "800x600"
> "640x480"
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth   4
> Modes   "1024

XF86Config-4 and XDMCP

2005-01-01 Thread Ridge Chittenden 
Hi all,

(Another question, new thread Appreciate all the
help as I try to understand Debian and Linux.)

I have a machine running Debian Woody that's being
used as a server--no keyboard, no mouse, no monitor. I
have XDMCP set up so that I can log in to an X session
on the machine from another machine on my home
network.

The question: I want to slim down the machine as much
as I can (RAM is limited), and I don't want to load
stuff I don't have to. What do I really need in
XF86Config-4 for a machine that never has a local
display? Another way to put it is, does the video
card, monitor, mouse and keyboard information come
from the XF86Config-4 on the machine that's logging
in? Or the machine that's running X? 

Perhaps most critically, do I need to have that i810
section with the 8MB of video RAM borrowed from main
memory?

Thanks,

rc

Here's XF86Config-4:


### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file)
generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the
debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the
XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by
dexconf, only make changes
# before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above,
and/or after the
# "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the
command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see "How do I add custom sections to
a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file?" in
/usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"  
 # local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we
can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath   
"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath   
"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"pex5"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"xie"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device"   
"/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device"   
"/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol" 
"ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Generic Video Card"
Driver  "i810"
VideoRam8192
Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
HorizSync   30-65
VertRefresh 50-120
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection


Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "Generic Video Card"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth24
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth