Re: XFree86 4.1 --> 4.2.1 (Woody)
pigeon> Add: pigeon> deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ stable xfree86 pigeon> to your /etc/apt/sources.list, ... I am please to say that installing the "backport" of v4.2.1 has allowed me to use my "ATI Radeon 7500" video controller. Though there are/were a few gotchas (e.g., mouse wouldn't work at first, my fonts don't look quite right, ...), I am basically *functional*! Thanks for everyone's help, -Kenneth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 4.1 --> 4.2.1 (Woody)
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 10:20:53AM -0500, Kenneth Jacker wrote: > Greetings! > > As some of you following this list know, I have been trying to get my > "ATI Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]" board working with XFree86-4.1 > under stable. After much help and emails, it appears that that > controller/chip isn't supported under v4.1. :-( > > So, since I think the board is a decent one, I guess my only > alternative is to provide a later XFree86 version. Keeping in mind > that I'm running Woody/stable, to which version should I upgrade? > > Various correspondents state that 4.2.1 supports my board. Version > 4.3.0 and 4.4.0 are some of the "latest and greatest". But, I thought > I might just "get my feet wet" (since I have done *zero* backports) > with the 4.2.1 version. Suggestions? Well, you don't have to do any of the backporting yourself (unless you really want to). Just install a backported version that someone else has done. > One thing that concerns me, though, is the affect of upgrading the X > server. I assume I will have to "purge" all traces of the current > version. But won't that also remove components that depend on it > (e.g., kde, ...)? If true, what will be the best way to recover those > X11-dependent applications? That's only a problem if you remove the current X before you install the new one. > The final issue for me is the actual process of changing to 4.2.1 > under Woody. I've done the usual searches (seems like FAQs), but > didn't find anything that appeared to describe the actual procedure. > > I do have these URLs: > > http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/stable/xfree86/binary-i386/ > > ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.1/binaries/Linux-ix86-glibc22/ > > Should they be my starting point? Only the first one - you won't need the second. Add: deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ stable xfree86 to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then run: apt-get update apt-get install x-window-system -s (check the output from this to make sure it's not going to do anything you don't want) apt-get install x-window-system -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree86 4.1 --> 4.2.1 (Woody)
So, here we meet again ;-) First of all, get Your fingers away - far far away - from any Xfree86.org binaries! Worst idea ever, really. On my notebook I "upgraded" manually to xfree 4.3 (because of a lack of driver support for Geforce Go chipsets in 4.1). Finally, when the next X Update arrived, apt was that confused, it absolutely stoped working. I couldn't install or upgrade anything anymore. So this is a definite DON'T. You have different options to stay with a running system, for one, You could upgrade to testing (sarge). It is assumed, that sarge will arrive this year, some muter the mid of June as a release date. So You can assume, current sarge distribution is quite stable. You will have to be more careful in the sense of security updates, that is, they happen still a bit more often than in stable and some bugs might take longer to be fixed. Second option, You grab Your copy from backport.org or something similar, I've never done backport personally, so I can't tell You anything about it. Third option (that's what I did (for other reasons)). You get to the DRI homepage, get their Debian packages (for stable) and get both, accelerated 3D AND working X at the same time. I've done that and am quite happy with the result. the driver is quite fast (almost the same speed as the ati binaries), I've not yet had a single crash and the installation procedure is quite simple (less complicated than their howto suggests). You can find the page (and related info) here: http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ Hope I could help THIS time... js -- And Bruce is effectively building BruceIX -- Alan Cox -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 4.1 --> 4.2.1 (Woody)
Not sure if this helps but . I took two approaches to this. First I downloaded the non-debian packages from the XFREE site. I left the Woody X packages in place to satisfy dependencies and then installed the XFREE packages on top. It seemed to work OK for me but there might be problems that I didn't come across. The alternative I used later was to upgrade to "sarge". Although this is "testing" I've been running my desktop on it for some time. The only problem I have is with sound but I have been able to get round that. Regards Tony Kenneth Jacker wrote: Greetings! As some of you following this list know, I have been trying to get my "ATI Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]" board working with XFree86-4.1 under stable. After much help and emails, it appears that that controller/chip isn't supported under v4.1. :-( So, since I think the board is a decent one, I guess my only alternative is to provide a later XFree86 version. Keeping in mind that I'm running Woody/stable, to which version should I upgrade? Various correspondents state that 4.2.1 supports my board. Version 4.3.0 and 4.4.0 are some of the "latest and greatest". But, I thought I might just "get my feet wet" (since I have done *zero* backports) with the 4.2.1 version. Suggestions? One thing that concerns me, though, is the affect of upgrading the X server. I assume I will have to "purge" all traces of the current version. But won't that also remove components that depend on it (e.g., kde, ...)? If true, what will be the best way to recover those X11-dependent applications? The final issue for me is the actual process of changing to 4.2.1 under Woody. I've done the usual searches (seems like FAQs), but didn't find anything that appeared to describe the actual procedure. I do have these URLs: http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/stable/xfree86/binary-i386/ ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.1/binaries/Linux-ix86-glibc22/ Should they be my starting point? I hope I'm not embarking on a long, long journey! ;-) Thanks for all comments, suggestions and help ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 4.1 --> 4.2.1 (Woody)
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 10:20:53AM -0500, Kenneth Jacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Various correspondents state that 4.2.1 supports my board. Version > 4.3.0 and 4.4.0 are some of the "latest and greatest". But, I thought > I might just "get my feet wet" (since I have done *zero* backports) > with the 4.2.1 version. Suggestions? I do not know. AFAICR, I needed 4.2.1 only. I think 4.3.0 needed only for 9xxx cards. > One thing that concerns me, though, is the affect of upgrading the X > server. I assume I will have to "purge" all traces of the current > version. But won't that also remove components that depend on it > (e.g., kde, ...)? If true, what will be the best way to recover those > X11-dependent applications? You do not have to purge, as you are right, it would remove everything which depends on them (whole kde etc). Upgrading XFree86 to 4.2.1 was painless. Only be suree to save your configuration file if you tampered it. > Should they be my starting point? You should also check http://www.apt-get.org/ > I hope I'm not embarking on a long, long journey! ;-) If you try 4.3.0, then be sure to download them all first, there were too much trouble with them in Sid even. It was broken into smaller but more packages, and the upgrade path/dependencies were not clean. :( Also, I had postinst problems as well, as my /bin/sh was not bash. :( My advice: try 4.2.1 first, if it still does not support your board, then move on to 4.3.0. Note: 4.4.0 won't be packaged, at least not for a while. Hope this helps, GCS/Laszlo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XFree86 4.1 --> 4.2.1 (Woody)
Greetings! As some of you following this list know, I have been trying to get my "ATI Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]" board working with XFree86-4.1 under stable. After much help and emails, it appears that that controller/chip isn't supported under v4.1. :-( So, since I think the board is a decent one, I guess my only alternative is to provide a later XFree86 version. Keeping in mind that I'm running Woody/stable, to which version should I upgrade? Various correspondents state that 4.2.1 supports my board. Version 4.3.0 and 4.4.0 are some of the "latest and greatest". But, I thought I might just "get my feet wet" (since I have done *zero* backports) with the 4.2.1 version. Suggestions? One thing that concerns me, though, is the affect of upgrading the X server. I assume I will have to "purge" all traces of the current version. But won't that also remove components that depend on it (e.g., kde, ...)? If true, what will be the best way to recover those X11-dependent applications? The final issue for me is the actual process of changing to 4.2.1 under Woody. I've done the usual searches (seems like FAQs), but didn't find anything that appeared to describe the actual procedure. I do have these URLs: http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/stable/xfree86/binary-i386/ ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.1/binaries/Linux-ix86-glibc22/ Should they be my starting point? I hope I'm not embarking on a long, long journey! ;-) Thanks for all comments, suggestions and help ... -- Prof Kenneth H Jacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science Dept www.cs.appstate.edu/~khj Appalachian State Univ Boone, NC 28608 USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
