Re: Widescreen resolution ignored in xwindows/gdm
> I have an Acer X233H widescreen monitor and cannot get > any of the 16:9 aspect resolutions up in gdm. > > I am using the latest 32-bit Etch binaries on a Pentium D > system w/1GB RAM and an Intel 945 G/GZ on-board video controller. > I have a Samsung widescreen lcd monitor with native 1680x1050q resolution, also use an Intel 945 on-board video controller, and never managed to get the monitor properly configured under Debian Etch after a LOT of monkeying with the XFree86 config file After upgrading to Debian Lenny using the newer minimalistic xorg.conf file the monitor was automatically configured and works fine with its native resolution Simalar story with Zenwalk 5, where I also couldn't manage to get the display properly configured with the widescreen Samsung monitor, but it was magically configured with an upgrade to Zenwalk 6 If a dist-upgrade is possible for you, it might save a bit of hair-pulling trying to configure your monitor -- Stanley C. Kitching Human Being Phoenix, Arizona -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Widescreen resolution ignored in xwindows/gdm
I have an Acer X233H widescreen monitor and cannot get any of the 16:9 aspect resolutions up in gdm. I am using the latest 32-bit Etch binaries on a Pentium D system w/1GB RAM and an Intel 945 G/GZ on-board video controller. It comes up with 1600x1200 24 bit depth even though I have removed that from /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I only left 16:9 modes that were evenly divisible by 8 (like 1920x1080) in xorg.conf. I've played a bit with videogen to try to get a modeline entry, but it does not allow you to set lower limits and it goes below the limits a lot... Any ideas out there? Thanks, Larry Irwin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: unable to login on the console with xwindows
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:59:36PM -0500, Michael Habashy wrote: > okay..i killed gdm and went to the console prompt. > I logged in and started startx. > The session started fine. > I do not know what the issue is? > i think it is heavily related that i get the permissions error to /bin/bash. You have two problems, two threads? Makes it kinda hard for us to follow. IIRC, if something changed your /bin/bash then your box may have been compromised. On the same box, you have a program, gdm, that asks for a password and is also misbehaving. If this box is connected to the net, you may find that your password is known by someone else now. Take this seriously. If it were me, I would disconnect the box from the internet and wouldn't reconnect it until either I had proven that it wasn't compromised or I had overwritten the disk and reinstalled, and only restored from pre-troubles backup with more recent backups getting a good look (e.g. check for changed permissions). Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unable to login on the console with xwindows
okay..i killed gdm and went to the console prompt. I logged in and started startx. The session started fine. I do not know what the issue is? i think it is heavily related that i get the permissions error to /bin/bash. thanks mjh On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:08:07PM -0500, Michael Habashy wrote: > > I get the following error: > > > > Cannot start session due to some internal error. > > > > then i click on ok, i get the following error: > > > > your session lasted less then 10 seconds, this could be due to not > enough > > diskspace or some other problems look to .xsession-errors file.. ..but i > do > > not htink that sounds right. > > > > If i see the additional error on the screen, i get > > /etc/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp > > /etc/PreSession/Default : running /usr/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp > -u > > /var/run/utmp -x > > session_child_run: Could not execute /etc/gdm/Xsession default > > > > > I'd temporarily stop xdm (I think it will be an initscript but I've > never used a ?dm) which should put you without X running on VT1. Then > log in to a CLI and type /usr/bin/startx. See what happens. If that > works, then you know that xdm is the problem. If not, starx should give > you lots of errors. > > Doug. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: unable to login on the console with xwindows
Michael Habashy wrote: Hi Raj - This issue seems to be affecting a couple of other things on the server. For instance, on the xconsole screen..it lets me login and then bounces me back out. I uninstalled gdm package, i am left with kde ---when i login in with that...i get an xterm window pop up and it states the same thing : Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied Check the permissions of /bin/bash and fix them to 755 Also, have you considered the possibility that your machine might have been compromised? Unless, of course, you changed the permissions of bash inadvertently. I did create a new user...but nothing helps. I got the same issue. it is driving me up a wall. thanks..for any help... mjh -- Raj Kiran Grandhi -- At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer, you will find at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the computer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unable to login on the console with xwindows
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 02:08:07PM -0500, Michael Habashy wrote: > I get the following error: > > Cannot start session due to some internal error. > > then i click on ok, i get the following error: > > your session lasted less then 10 seconds, this could be due to not enough > diskspace or some other problems look to .xsession-errors file.. ..but i do > not htink that sounds right. > > If i see the additional error on the screen, i get > /etc/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp > /etc/PreSession/Default : running /usr/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u > /var/run/utmp -x > session_child_run: Could not execute /etc/gdm/Xsession default > I'd temporarily stop xdm (I think it will be an initscript but I've never used a ?dm) which should put you without X running on VT1. Then log in to a CLI and type /usr/bin/startx. See what happens. If that works, then you know that xdm is the problem. If not, starx should give you lots of errors. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unable to login on the console with xwindows
Hi Raj - This issue seems to be affecting a couple of other things on the server. For instance, on the xconsole screen..it lets me login and then bounces me back out. I uninstalled gdm package, i am left with kde ---when i login in with that...i get an xterm window pop up and it states the same thing : Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied I did create a new user...but nothing helps. I got the same issue. it is driving me up a wall. thanks..for any help... mjh On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Habashy wrote: > > I get the following error: > > > > Cannot start session due to some internal error. > > > > then i click on ok, i get the following error: > > > > your session lasted less then 10 seconds, this could be due to not > enough > > diskspace or some other problems look to .xsession-errors file.. ..but i > do > > not htink that sounds right. > > > [snip errors] > > Add a new user and try logging in as that user from gdm. If it works, > then there is something wrong with your configuration files and you can > try moving them out of the way before logging in again. > > -- > Raj Kiran Grandhi > -- > At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer, you will > find at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the > computer. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: unable to login on the console with xwindows
Michael Habashy wrote: I get the following error: Cannot start session due to some internal error. then i click on ok, i get the following error: your session lasted less then 10 seconds, this could be due to not enough diskspace or some other problems look to .xsession-errors file.. ..but i do not htink that sounds right. [snip errors] Add a new user and try logging in as that user from gdm. If it works, then there is something wrong with your configuration files and you can try moving them out of the way before logging in again. -- Raj Kiran Grandhi -- At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer, you will find at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the computer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unable to login on the console with xwindows
I get the following error: Cannot start session due to some internal error. then i click on ok, i get the following error: your session lasted less then 10 seconds, this could be due to not enough diskspace or some other problems look to .xsession-errors file.. ..but i do not htink that sounds right. If i see the additional error on the screen, i get /etc/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp /etc/PreSession/Default : running /usr/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x session_child_run: Could not execute /etc/gdm/Xsession default the .xsession-errors file says alot of things..but the first entries are : Xsession: X session started for root at Mon Feb 25 13:34:37 EST 2008 SESSION_MANAGER=local/rmachine:/tmp/.ICE-unix/6807 Window manager warning: Failed to read saved session file /root/.metacity/sessions/default0.ms: Failed to open file '/root/.metacity/sessions/default0.ms': No such file or directory ** Message: Not starting remote desktop server ** (gnome-panel:6868): WARNING **: Failed to establish a connection with GDM: No such file or directory XGetSelectionOwner: old version of gcin or gcin is not running ?? ... try to start a new gcin server /usr/bin/gcin gcin get env LC_CTYPE= LC_ALL= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 gcin will use UTF-8 as the default encoding load_gtab_list /usr/share/gcin/table/gtab.list -- /tmp/gcin-root/socket-:0.0-gcin connection via TCP is disabled This is my hd -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/vg_main-lv_root 493G 153G 315G 33% / tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /lib/init/rw udev 10M 96K 10M 1% /dev tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm /dev/md0 274M 51M 209M 20% /boot /dev/mapper/vg_main-bk_data 493G 380G 89G 82% /bk_data Any ideas would be greatly appriciated. mjh
Re: going from Xwindows to console
On 10/7/07, jekillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello; > I've installed Debian 4.1 and would like to know how to > drop out of Xwindows into a console display. It seems > to be different from distro to distro. I tried F1, F2, etc; > command F1, F2, etc; > alt F1, F2, etc > shift F1, F2, etc > control F1, F2, etc. > So what is the magic incantation on Debian? > Xwindows usually runs on tty7or tty8 as I > recall from Mandrake and Yellow Dog. And > it is accessed via F7 or F8. In X it is ctrl-alt-F?. On the consoles it is just alt-F? X is on F7 > Another question, I have installed without > the installation process contacting a mirror site. > The machine is on local net and I have had > another machine function as an http proxy > but disabled the proxy function because someone > discovered I was running a proxy for outbound > net traffic and was using it to bounce request > and tie up my network connection (static ips). It should be possible to make the proxy work only for your internal network. > So, now if I want to install software from the > cds, I assume I need a public net connection. > Is that a correct assumption? You can install software from the CDs without any network at all. > I can hook it up to a public ip address directly just > for the sake of software installation, BUT I would > rather not. > > Does Debian use tcpwrappers? I don't know if it does by default, but the package is certainly in the repo as libwrap and tcpd. Cheers, Kelly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: going from Xwindows to console
- Original Message - From: "jekillen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: going from Xwindows to console Hello; I've installed Debian 4.1 and would like to know how to drop out of Xwindows into a console display. It seems to be different from distro to distro. I tried F1, F2, etc; command F1, F2, etc; alt F1, F2, etc shift F1, F2, etc control F1, F2, etc. So what is the magic incantation on Debian? Xwindows usually runs on tty7or tty8 as I recall from Mandrake and Yellow Dog. And it is accessed via F7 or F8. CTL-ALT-F1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
going from Xwindows to console
Hello; I've installed Debian 4.1 and would like to know how to drop out of Xwindows into a console display. It seems to be different from distro to distro. I tried F1, F2, etc; command F1, F2, etc; alt F1, F2, etc shift F1, F2, etc control F1, F2, etc. So what is the magic incantation on Debian? Xwindows usually runs on tty7or tty8 as I recall from Mandrake and Yellow Dog. And it is accessed via F7 or F8. Another question, I have installed without the installation process contacting a mirror site. The machine is on local net and I have had another machine function as an http proxy but disabled the proxy function because someone discovered I was running a proxy for outbound net traffic and was using it to bounce request and tie up my network connection (static ips). So, now if I want to install software from the cds, I assume I need a public net connection. Is that a correct assumption? I can hook it up to a public ip address directly just for the sake of software installation, BUT I would rather not. Does Debian use tcpwrappers? Thanks in advance; Jeff K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows and Emacs
Am 2006-07-02 16:27:49, schrieb Paul E Condon: > Long ago, I was a RedHat user. When I moved to Debian, I kept a copy > of a file, .Xresources, that made Emacs display under X in a way that > I liked. Now in trying to use Etch, I discover that the file doesn't > work quite the way I want under xserver-xorg. I want to tweek it, but mkdir ~/.Xresources cp .Xresources ~/.Xresources/emacs > emacs*font: fixed or echo "emacs*font: fixed" >~/.Xresources/emacs Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows and Emacs
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 01:37:31AM +, s. keeling wrote: > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 01:47:04PM +, s. keeling wrote: > > > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > emacs*font: fixed > > > > > > See if you have an app called xfontsel. It's a GUI point and click > > > interface to fonts. Note the "spc" column. For terminal fonts, "c" > > > and "m" apply. "p" is for proportional fonts, and don't work well in > > > > > > "fixed" is defined by the X Window system as the fallback default > > > non-proportional (aka. fixed) spacing font, but there's many others to > > > > My adventure began when I noticed that "fixed" provided a different > > font under xorg from the one I have been getting under xfree. From > > Well, first understand that we've pretty much plumbed the depths of my > knowledge of font lower levels. However, here's a couple that I have > left. You can get the same sort of strange behaviour by rearranging > the order of the FontPath lines in your X config file. I have: > > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" > > What does the "/:unscaled" mean? What happens when you put the 75dpi > lines before the 100dpi lines? > > What happens when you go from the above defining fonts for X, to > something like xfs (X Font Server) defining fonts for X? > > I thought a font was a simple matrix bitmap defining pixels to turn on > or off or shade or colorize. Smiple. No, beyond that little matrix > is a vast array of fantastically specialized machinery that does > magical things with that little matrix. BTW: > > Emacs*font: > -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-10-100-75-75-m-60-iso8859-1 I like it! And I think I need to stop searching for my perfect emacs font and do some useful work. Thanks to all, I've learned a lot. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows and Emacs
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 04:41:33PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 02:18:35PM EDT, Paul E Condon wrote: > [..] > > But there is something incomplete about your explanation: when I don't > > but the magic line into my resources, I still get a monospace font in > > emacs windows, but it is a different one. So there appear to be two > > defaults, the "fixed" one and the nil one. Do you happen to know where > > the nil one is defined? Might that be in emacs? > > > Take a peek at: > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias > > .. that's with XFree.. you may have to look in a different place with > xorg.. > This is exactly what I wanted to learn! Thanks. And I'll do a find on fonts.alias the next time I boot Etch. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows and Emacs
Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 01:47:04PM +, s. keeling wrote: > > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > emacs*font: fixed > > > > See if you have an app called xfontsel. It's a GUI point and click > > interface to fonts. Note the "spc" column. For terminal fonts, "c" > > and "m" apply. "p" is for proportional fonts, and don't work well in > > > > "fixed" is defined by the X Window system as the fallback default > > non-proportional (aka. fixed) spacing font, but there's many others to > > My adventure began when I noticed that "fixed" provided a different > font under xorg from the one I have been getting under xfree. From Well, first understand that we've pretty much plumbed the depths of my knowledge of font lower levels. However, here's a couple that I have left. You can get the same sort of strange behaviour by rearranging the order of the FontPath lines in your X config file. I have: FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" What does the "/:unscaled" mean? What happens when you put the 75dpi lines before the 100dpi lines? What happens when you go from the above defining fonts for X, to something like xfs (X Font Server) defining fonts for X? I thought a font was a simple matrix bitmap defining pixels to turn on or off or shade or colorize. Smiple. No, beyond that little matrix is a vast array of fantastically specialized machinery that does magical things with that little matrix. BTW: Emacs*font: -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-10-100-75-75-m-60-iso8859-1 Pretty. :-) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows and Emacs
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 02:18:35PM EDT, Paul E Condon wrote: [..] > But there is something incomplete about your explanation: when I don't > but the magic line into my resources, I still get a monospace font in > emacs windows, but it is a different one. So there appear to be two > defaults, the "fixed" one and the nil one. Do you happen to know where > the nil one is defined? Might that be in emacs? > Take a peek at: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias .. that's with XFree.. you may have to look in a different place with xorg.. HTH Thanks, cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows and Emacs, fix typo
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 12:18:35PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 01:47:04PM +, s. keeling wrote: > > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Long ago, I was a RedHat user. When I moved to Debian, I kept a copy > > > of a file, .Xresources, that made Emacs display under X in a way that > > > I liked. Now in trying to use Etch, I discover that the file doesn't > > > work quite the way I want under xserver-xorg. I want to tweek it, but > > > can't find docs that address my questions in a way that I recognize. I > > > think my main issue is with the line: > > > > > > emacs*font: fixed > > > > See if you have an app called xfontsel. It's a GUI point and click > > interface to fonts. Note the "spc" column. For terminal fonts, "c" > > and "m" apply. "p" is for proportional fonts, and don't work well in > > terminal based apps. > > > > "fixed" is defined by the X Window system as the fallback default > > non-proportional (aka. fixed) spacing font, but there's many others to > > choose from. Fiddling with xfontsel for a bit will teach you a lot > > about this. > > This description of "fixed" is very helpful. I had thought it had to > be something like what you describe, but I haven't found any explanation > by googling. > > My adventure began when I noticed that "fixed" provided a different > font under xorg from the one I have been getting under xfree. From > this, I conclude it is implementation dependent. I'd like to find > where this default is set in xfree, and simply copy what is there into > my xorg resources. It seems to me a better way to get what I want than > searching vast libraries of weird fonts with my limited search skills. > > But there is something incomplete about your explanation: when I don't > put the magic line into my resources, I still get a monospace font in ^ > emacs windows, but it is a different one. So there appear to be two > defaults, the "fixed" one and the nil one. Do you happen to know where ^^^ Oops! It turns out 'nil' is a non-empty attribute specification key word in X fonts. I don't know what it means in the X windows context, but whatever it is, that isn't what I intended in this email. > the nil one is defined? Might that be in emacs? > > Thanks, again. Also, as expected, I am, indeed, having some difficulty matching the xfree definition of "fixed" by searching in xfontsel. Part of the appeal of open software is the possibility of having it do what you want, not what some focus group has led some marketers to believe you want. Its a wonderful promise, but ... -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows and Emacs
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 01:47:04PM +, s. keeling wrote: > Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Long ago, I was a RedHat user. When I moved to Debian, I kept a copy > > of a file, .Xresources, that made Emacs display under X in a way that > > I liked. Now in trying to use Etch, I discover that the file doesn't > > work quite the way I want under xserver-xorg. I want to tweek it, but > > can't find docs that address my questions in a way that I recognize. I > > think my main issue is with the line: > > > > emacs*font: fixed > > See if you have an app called xfontsel. It's a GUI point and click > interface to fonts. Note the "spc" column. For terminal fonts, "c" > and "m" apply. "p" is for proportional fonts, and don't work well in > terminal based apps. > > "fixed" is defined by the X Window system as the fallback default > non-proportional (aka. fixed) spacing font, but there's many others to > choose from. Fiddling with xfontsel for a bit will teach you a lot > about this. This description of "fixed" is very helpful. I had thought it had to be something like what you describe, but I haven't found any explanation by googling. My adventure began when I noticed that "fixed" provided a different font under xorg from the one I have been getting under xfree. From this, I conclude it is implementation dependent. I'd like to find where this default is set in xfree, and simply copy what is there into my xorg resources. It seems to me a better way to get what I want than searching vast libraries of weird fonts with my limited search skills. But there is something incomplete about your explanation: when I don't but the magic line into my resources, I still get a monospace font in emacs windows, but it is a different one. So there appear to be two defaults, the "fixed" one and the nil one. Do you happen to know where the nil one is defined? Might that be in emacs? Thanks, again. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows and Emacs
Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Long ago, I was a RedHat user. When I moved to Debian, I kept a copy > of a file, .Xresources, that made Emacs display under X in a way that > I liked. Now in trying to use Etch, I discover that the file doesn't > work quite the way I want under xserver-xorg. I want to tweek it, but > can't find docs that address my questions in a way that I recognize. I > think my main issue is with the line: > > emacs*font: fixed See if you have an app called xfontsel. It's a GUI point and click interface to fonts. Note the "spc" column. For terminal fonts, "c" and "m" apply. "p" is for proportional fonts, and don't work well in terminal based apps. "fixed" is defined by the X Window system as the fallback default non-proportional (aka. fixed) spacing font, but there's many others to choose from. Fiddling with xfontsel for a bit will teach you a lot about this. When you find a font you want to try, you can either define it in ~/.Xresources then run "xrdb -merge .Xresources" or just run emacs supplying the font's name on the command line (-fn|-font). -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows and Emacs
Did you take a look into the emacs info pages or the text file /usr/share/emacs/21.4/etc/DOC-21.4 (depending on your emacs version)? I use a line like emacs*Font: 7x13 in my .Xdefaults file. Regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows and Emacs
Hi Paul $ man xrdb can help you. $ xrdb -query $ xrdb -load are good starts. Regards, Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Long ago, I was a RedHat user. When I moved to Debian, I kept a copy > of a file, .Xresources, that made Emacs display under X in a way that > I liked. Now in trying to use Etch, I discover that the file doesn't > work quite the way I want under xserver-xorg. I want to tweek it, but > can't find docs that address my questions in a way that I recognize. I > think my main issue is with the line: > > emacs*font: fixed > > This is used in a lot of X config files that are published on the web, > but I can't find any information about what its actually intended to do. > For me, it changes the size of the font that is used to display the text > being editted. Without this line the size is bigish, with this line it > is smaller by two or three points. In Etch, with this line, the text is > also in condensed type, that is the letters are scrunched together so as > to fit more letters in a given space. > > So, there appear to be default font selections set up somewhere and this > line switches among them. Where are these defaults set up? In both xorg > and in xfree? Where can I find an explanation of the value 'fixed' in > this context? What other values are accepted in this line? What do the > other values do? Etc.? > > -- > Paul E Condon > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Marcio Roberto Teixeira chave pública: hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net http://marciotex.googlepages.com/keypub_8709626B.asc página pessoal (em construção): http://marciotex.googlepages.com Usuário "tchê" Debian/GNULinux Porto Alegre - RS - Brasil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xwindows and Emacs
Long ago, I was a RedHat user. When I moved to Debian, I kept a copy of a file, .Xresources, that made Emacs display under X in a way that I liked. Now in trying to use Etch, I discover that the file doesn't work quite the way I want under xserver-xorg. I want to tweek it, but can't find docs that address my questions in a way that I recognize. I think my main issue is with the line: emacs*font: fixed This is used in a lot of X config files that are published on the web, but I can't find any information about what its actually intended to do. For me, it changes the size of the font that is used to display the text being editted. Without this line the size is bigish, with this line it is smaller by two or three points. In Etch, with this line, the text is also in condensed type, that is the letters are scrunched together so as to fit more letters in a given space. So, there appear to be default font selections set up somewhere and this line switches among them. Where are these defaults set up? In both xorg and in xfree? Where can I find an explanation of the value 'fixed' in this context? What other values are accepted in this line? What do the other values do? Etc.? -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xwindows
Can't you just delete the config file and re-run dpkg-reconfigure? I think that has worked for me in the past, but maybe I imagined it :) Not sure, I am noob myself so I might try this next time. The md5 approach seems overly complicated to reconfigure a file :) Couldn't agree more:) You do have to rename the original file so as not to overwrite it, so I would have thought this was the same as deleting it. I do like to keep a copy of the original as it invariably has to be tweaked after running dpkg-reconfigure, in my case anyway. Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xwindows
On Friday 13 May 2005 10:48, Wackojacko wrote: > You also have to reset the md5sum of /etc/X11/XF86config-4, see the header > of this file for details. Can't you just delete the config file and re-run dpkg-reconfigure? I think that has worked for me in the past, but maybe I imagined it :) The md5 approach seems overly complicated to reconfigure a file :) -- Lee. Please send replies to the list, not to my email address. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xwindows
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 06:04:51PM -0700, asc wrote: I can't get this to start it has a failure. How do I reconfigure this? as root: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 You also have to reset the md5sum of /etc/X11/XF86config-4, see the header of this file for details. Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xwindows
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 06:04:51PM -0700, asc wrote: > I can't get this to start it has a failure. > > How do I reconfigure this? as root: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 also look at /var/log/XFree86.0.log for errors look for lines beginning with (WW) for warnings and more importantly (EE) for errors If you cannot get it fixed, post those errors to this list. -- Angelina Carlton -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xwindows
I can't get this to start it has a failure. How do I reconfigure this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: udev with Xwindows and winmodems,
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 03:33:16PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Having installed the udev.deb package, the following problems have been > encountered. > > 1) Xwindows does not start unless first, /etc/init.d/udev stop > Once Xwindows is up, it is retained after /etc/init.d/udev restart > > 2) The Lucent winmodem uses /dev/ttyLT0 c 62 64 > with a symbolic link to it. Neither is in the /dev/ created during a > bootup with udev called > > 3) /dev/ppp needed for dialup is not created by udev either. > Hi Marv, had the same issue: add 'M ppp c 108 0' to '/etc/udev/links.conf' -Kev -- (__) (oo) /--\/ / ||| * /\---/\ ~~ ~~ "Have you mooed today?"... signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: udev with Xwindows and winmodems,
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:33:16 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having installed the udev.deb package, the following problems have been > encountered. > > 1) Xwindows does not start unless first, /etc/init.d/udev stop > Once Xwindows is up, it is retained after /etc/init.d/udev restart I'm using udev myself on a Dell Latitude C640 running Debian Unstable. Didn't encounter that problem on a stock install. What hardware are you running udev on? Chipset of your video card? > 2) The Lucent winmodem uses /dev/ttyLT0 c 62 64 > with a symbolic link to it. Neither is in the /dev/ created during a > bootup with udev called Load the appropriate module first. > 3) /dev/ppp needed for dialup is not created by udev either. You'd need to load the module for ppp first. -- Paolo Alexis Falcone [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
udev with Xwindows and winmodems,
Having installed the udev.deb package, the following problems have been encountered. 1) Xwindows does not start unless first, /etc/init.d/udev stop Once Xwindows is up, it is retained after /etc/init.d/udev restart 2) The Lucent winmodem uses /dev/ttyLT0 c 62 64 with a symbolic link to it. Neither is in the /dev/ created during a bootup with udev called 3) /dev/ppp needed for dialup is not created by udev either. Suggestions would be appreciated as the udev documentation is still quite lean and the provided examples are not cogent to these three problems. MarvS mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: strange Xwindows problem Sarge
> First time as i used to run startx it used give error > about display name "hostname:0". But now after adding > DNS entry for my new hostname, it just does not give > any error. Whenever i run startx the screen flashes X > and mouse cross icon...then dies. So then you're back to the text console, right? What output did X produce? If you run 'X' directly (rather than calling 'startx') does that at least keep the 'stippled' background on the screen until you kill it? But it worked as a non-root user *before* you changed the hostname? If yes, then there is probably some file you forgot to change. How about running: find /etc -type f | xargs grep -l Did you change only the host-portion of the hostname or also the domain-portion? Possible files to check are: /etc/host* /etc/resolv.conf /etc/network/interfaces You could also try reverting to the old hostname and then googling for the full procedure for changing the hostname :-) Alexis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange Xwindows problem Sarge
FYI; I resolved the problem! just renamed my .xinitrc in my homw dir and again ran startx. Cheers! it works! THanks Rituraj --- RituRaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi; > > I successfully installed and configured debian > sarge. > Xwindows is also configured. My system is on DHCP. > After changing the hostname, i rebooted the system. > > Now i am able to run GUI i.e startx by root account. > But i am not able to run startx with unprivileged > account. > First time as i used to run startx it used give > error > about display name "hostname:0". But now after > adding > DNS entry for my new hostname, it just does not give > any error. Whenever i run startx the screen flashes > X > and mouse cross icon...then dies. > > But it works with root > > Please help > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We > finish. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
strange Xwindows problem Sarge
Hi; I successfully installed and configured debian sarge. Xwindows is also configured. My system is on DHCP. After changing the hostname, i rebooted the system. Now i am able to run GUI i.e startx by root account. But i am not able to run startx with unprivileged account. First time as i used to run startx it used give error about display name "hostname:0". But now after adding DNS entry for my new hostname, it just does not give any error. Whenever i run startx the screen flashes X and mouse cross icon...then dies. But it works with root Please help __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Xwindows, USB Mouse and GeForce 4
> ... > a webserver. I have installed Debian (v 3.0 r2 i386, the latest > "Woody") from CD. I have a GeForce4 Ti 4200 and a Logitech Dual Optical > mouse plugged into my USB port. > > When I type 'startx' I get 'Fatal server error'. The error messages are > ... I had a similar problem and solved it by getting a later version of X from one of the backport mirrors. From the other comments I'm assuming that the problem is with the supplied free driver, and I'm not too sure what made me upgrade X but I found it easier than trying to install the proprietary drivers. The disadvantage is that you're then out of sync with the stable distro, and you may get into dependency problems (specifically I had problems doing development linked to xlib). Possibly a moot point with Sarge coming up, though running a server should always err on the side of caution. Anyway, there's a list of backport servers at: www.apt-get.org Do a package search for "xfree86". Choose a server which looks groovy, for example backports.org, and add the server line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file. The server line loooks like this: deb ftp://linux.upsa.es/pub/XFREE4.3/ ./ If you now do a "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" it'll upgrade every package held by the backport source, so you may want to choose a backport source which only holds the package you want. Once you've updated that package, you could then remove the backport source from sources.list and do another "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade". The updated packages are held back in future upgrades. If you have a broadband connection, you may want to consider installing Sarge (the next release of Debian). That's what I did, and it's lovely and great (many many thanks to all the contributors). If you do want to go to Sarge, download the net-installer from: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/ And install from that CD. It worked great for me. Ade -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Xwindows, USB Mouse and GeForce 4
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 06:53, Richard Cavell wrote: > Hi, > > I have an unremarkable Pentium 4-class machine that I wish to operate as > a webserver. I have installed Debian (v 3.0 r2 i386, the latest > "Woody") from CD. I have a GeForce4 Ti 4200 and a Logitech Dual Optical > mouse plugged into my USB port. > > When I type 'startx' I get 'Fatal server error'. The error messages are > too numerous to fit onto one screen but they are basically variations on > the theme of 'no compatible video card found' > > I have used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to declare my video card to > be 'nv', 'vesa' or 'vga'. VGA seems to get me closer than ever before, > but startx still results in 'Fatal server error'. > > I have downloaded the Linux drivers from the NVidia website (a script > called nvidia-linux-x86...). When I run it, it complains that > > 'No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel'. It > tries to, but can't find one from nVidia's ftp site. It therefore asks > me to ensure my kernel's source is on my computer so that it can compile > its own. (There is currently no kernel source on my computer). > > So now I guess I need to put my kernel source on my computer. How do I > do this? apt-get install kernel-source results in a selection, none of > which I think are relevant to my kerenel. > > What do I have to tell the dpkg configuration screens to make X windows > recognize my USB mouse? At the moment it says 'Cannot open device > /dev/psaux' (or whatever else I say my mouse is). > regarding your video card: this can be "easily" fixed if you want to compile your own kernel. the two most important packages are: nvidia-kernel-source kernel-source- (perhaps 2.6.7) the best way to compile this is probably using the debian kernel-package method. there is a good howto on newbiedoc.sourceforge.net on compiling your own kernel with kernel-package, check it out. there is more that could be said right now, but decide if compiling your own kernel is the method you want to go with. if you have more questions, we can help. -matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Xwindows, USB Mouse and GeForce 4
Try installing this package apt-get install x-window-system dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 then startx Regards, Vijaya Pete Clarke wrote: > > I have an unremarkable Pentium 4-class machine that I wish to operate as > > a webserver. I have installed Debian (v 3.0 r2 i386, the latest > > > When I type 'startx' I get 'Fatal server error'. The error messages are > > too numerous to fit onto one screen but they are basically variations on > > the theme of 'no compatible video card found' > > Is there a specific reason you want X on a webserver? > > Cheers, > > Pete. > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Xwindows, USB Mouse and GeForce 4
> I have an unremarkable Pentium 4-class machine that I wish to operate as > a webserver. I have installed Debian (v 3.0 r2 i386, the latest > When I type 'startx' I get 'Fatal server error'. The error messages are > too numerous to fit onto one screen but they are basically variations on > the theme of 'no compatible video card found' Is there a specific reason you want X on a webserver? Cheers, Pete. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian, Xwindows, USB Mouse and GeForce 4
Hi, I have an unremarkable Pentium 4-class machine that I wish to operate as a webserver. I have installed Debian (v 3.0 r2 i386, the latest "Woody") from CD. I have a GeForce4 Ti 4200 and a Logitech Dual Optical mouse plugged into my USB port. When I type 'startx' I get 'Fatal server error'. The error messages are too numerous to fit onto one screen but they are basically variations on the theme of 'no compatible video card found' I have used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to declare my video card to be 'nv', 'vesa' or 'vga'. VGA seems to get me closer than ever before, but startx still results in 'Fatal server error'. I have downloaded the Linux drivers from the NVidia website (a script called nvidia-linux-x86...). When I run it, it complains that 'No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel'. It tries to, but can't find one from nVidia's ftp site. It therefore asks me to ensure my kernel's source is on my computer so that it can compile its own. (There is currently no kernel source on my computer). So now I guess I need to put my kernel source on my computer. How do I do this? apt-get install kernel-source results in a selection, none of which I think are relevant to my kerenel. What do I have to tell the dpkg configuration screens to make X windows recognize my USB mouse? At the moment it says 'Cannot open device /dev/psaux' (or whatever else I say my mouse is). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Newby can't get Xwindows running
Micha, I am up and running with X :-)) > check that you have /dev/mouse, it should be a symbolic link to > /dev/psaux (do ls -l and see what the file name is). If it doesn't > exists either provide /dev/psaux as the mouse location for the setup > process or do as root > > ln -s psaux /dev/mouse > > Using ImPS/2 instead if PS/2 may also help but it won't change > behavior, just features. > > This is my best bet for now. It was a good bet. After this I had mouse support in xf86cfg. There was just one more hurdle, xf86cfg was saving my configuration changes to \usr\lib\X11R6\XF86Config, but with the knowledge I gained from your analysis I figured where to save the configuration. Many thanks for your efforts. I really appreciate it. KDE looks great! David > -Original Message- > From: Micha Feigin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 3 May 2004 10:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Newby can't get Xwindows running > > On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:52:17AM +1000, David Moore wrote: > > > From: Micha Feigin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:51:13PM +1000, David Moore wrote: > > > > As a complete novice to Linux, please bear with me if my explanation > of > > > > the problem is confused. > > > > > > > > I installed Debian 3.0 r2 woody kernel 2.2.20 (many times on 2 > different > > > > machines) using defaults and keeping as simple as possible, but I > have > > > > not been able to get XWindows running. > > > > > > > > > > If its a workstation and not a server I would get the new installer > > > beta (sarge) and install either testing or unstable. The version of X > > > there and the kernel version is much newer and could solve some > > > problems, also IIRC the installer has some hardware recognition (don't > > > know if for X though). > > > > > > I looked at the X version in stable and it looks like its 3.3.6 (which > > > is very-very old). If you want to use stable go to > > > http://www.backports.org/ and see how to add the backport packages > > > (there is a HOWTO and installation instructions) and > > > upgrade X (its 4.2.1 there although unstable and testing already > > > have 4.3). > > > > > > unstable is more stable then it sounds (I rarely have problems and > then > > > it will just inhibit me from installing problematic packages unless I > > > bypass things), testing is ok now since its entering a freezing state > > > on its way to become stable, although usually unstable is more stable > > > and secure then testing. For a desktop unstable is usually the best > > > solution (unless you want to run stable with back-ports). > > > > > > You could also try the knoppix (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/), > > > meppis (http://www.mepis.org/) which have good hardware recognition, > > > can install to the hardisk or run of a cd and are based on mix of > > > debian testing/unstable. > > > > I will take your advice and get sarge. Meanwhile I don't tolerate > > disobedient software and will persist with woody a little longer - it's > a > > learning experience! > > > > My main interest in linux is as an alternative to nt server, so the > server > > functionality will be important once I start to find my way around. > > > > Everything has server functionality in linux. Stable is mostly meant > for production servers where you don't care about features and don't > want much change. Its for minimal maintenance rock solid servers. > > > > > > > > I used taskel to select: XWindows, Desktop environment and C/C++ > > > > > > > > It boots into the bash shell fine except that during boot-up a > message > > > > appears: "Modprobe can't locate char-major-10-135" (the pause key > > > > doesn't halt the screen during boot-up so other important message > might > > > > flash past before I can write them down) > > > > > > > > I have a Matrox MGA G200 - 16Mb > > > > Phillips SL200 19" monitor > > > > MS 2 button mouse on PS2 port > > > > > > > > The problem is, when I try to run X, XFree386, xdm, kdm or gdm it > does > > > > not go to VGA mode but spews forth dialogue including the following > > > > lines which seem significant: > > > > > > > > > > could you post the output of running startx (try also as root to make > >
Re: Newby can't get Xwindows running
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:52:17AM +1000, David Moore wrote: > > From: Micha Feigin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:51:13PM +1000, David Moore wrote: > > > As a complete novice to Linux, please bear with me if my explanation of > > > the problem is confused. > > > > > > I installed Debian 3.0 r2 woody kernel 2.2.20 (many times on 2 different > > > machines) using defaults and keeping as simple as possible, but I have > > > not been able to get XWindows running. > > > > > > > If its a workstation and not a server I would get the new installer > > beta (sarge) and install either testing or unstable. The version of X > > there and the kernel version is much newer and could solve some > > problems, also IIRC the installer has some hardware recognition (don't > > know if for X though). > > > > I looked at the X version in stable and it looks like its 3.3.6 (which > > is very-very old). If you want to use stable go to > > http://www.backports.org/ and see how to add the backport packages > > (there is a HOWTO and installation instructions) and > > upgrade X (its 4.2.1 there although unstable and testing already > > have 4.3). > > > > unstable is more stable then it sounds (I rarely have problems and then > > it will just inhibit me from installing problematic packages unless I > > bypass things), testing is ok now since its entering a freezing state > > on its way to become stable, although usually unstable is more stable > > and secure then testing. For a desktop unstable is usually the best > > solution (unless you want to run stable with back-ports). > > > > You could also try the knoppix (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/), > > meppis (http://www.mepis.org/) which have good hardware recognition, > > can install to the hardisk or run of a cd and are based on mix of > > debian testing/unstable. > > I will take your advice and get sarge. Meanwhile I don't tolerate > disobedient software and will persist with woody a little longer - it's a > learning experience! > > My main interest in linux is as an alternative to nt server, so the server > functionality will be important once I start to find my way around. > Everything has server functionality in linux. Stable is mostly meant for production servers where you don't care about features and don't want much change. Its for minimal maintenance rock solid servers. > > > > > I used taskel to select: XWindows, Desktop environment and C/C++ > > > > > > It boots into the bash shell fine except that during boot-up a message > > > appears: "Modprobe can't locate char-major-10-135" (the pause key > > > doesn't halt the screen during boot-up so other important message might > > > flash past before I can write them down) > > > > > > I have a Matrox MGA G200 - 16Mb > > > Phillips SL200 19" monitor > > > MS 2 button mouse on PS2 port > > > > > > The problem is, when I try to run X, XFree386, xdm, kdm or gdm it does > > > not go to VGA mode but spews forth dialogue including the following > > > lines which seem significant: > > > > > > > could you post the output of running startx (try also as root to make > > sure that there is no permission problems) and the file > > how do I pipe the output from startx to a file? > startx > startx.out 2>&1 This will pipe the standard output to the file startx.out (file descriptor 1) and then pipe standard error (file descriptor 2) to the standard output. The order is important, since if you pipe stderr to stdout before piping stdout, then stderr will go to the screen (it goes to where the original file descriptor is pointing at the time of the pipe command). > > > /var/log/XFree86.0.log which may help to see the error messages. > > > > here is var/log/XFree86.0.log . > > > This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any > way. Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, > please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository > (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs) > > XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System Ok, its 4.1 and not 3.3.6 which is much better. It would also mean that what I said in previous mail about /etc/X11/XF86Config needs to be changed to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (debian specific change in setup file name to allow versions 3 and 4 to live in parallel) > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) > Release Date:
RE: Newby can't get Xwindows running
> From: Micha Feigin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:51:13PM +1000, David Moore wrote: > > As a complete novice to Linux, please bear with me if my explanation of > > the problem is confused. > > > > I installed Debian 3.0 r2 woody kernel 2.2.20 (many times on 2 different > > machines) using defaults and keeping as simple as possible, but I have > > not been able to get XWindows running. > > > > If its a workstation and not a server I would get the new installer > beta (sarge) and install either testing or unstable. The version of X > there and the kernel version is much newer and could solve some > problems, also IIRC the installer has some hardware recognition (don't > know if for X though). > > I looked at the X version in stable and it looks like its 3.3.6 (which > is very-very old). If you want to use stable go to > http://www.backports.org/ and see how to add the backport packages > (there is a HOWTO and installation instructions) and > upgrade X (its 4.2.1 there although unstable and testing already > have 4.3). > > unstable is more stable then it sounds (I rarely have problems and then > it will just inhibit me from installing problematic packages unless I > bypass things), testing is ok now since its entering a freezing state > on its way to become stable, although usually unstable is more stable > and secure then testing. For a desktop unstable is usually the best > solution (unless you want to run stable with back-ports). > > You could also try the knoppix (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/), > meppis (http://www.mepis.org/) which have good hardware recognition, > can install to the hardisk or run of a cd and are based on mix of > debian testing/unstable. I will take your advice and get sarge. Meanwhile I don't tolerate disobedient software and will persist with woody a little longer - it's a learning experience! My main interest in linux is as an alternative to nt server, so the server functionality will be important once I start to find my way around. > > > I used taskel to select: XWindows, Desktop environment and C/C++ > > > > It boots into the bash shell fine except that during boot-up a message > > appears: "Modprobe can't locate char-major-10-135" (the pause key > > doesn't halt the screen during boot-up so other important message might > > flash past before I can write them down) > > > > I have a Matrox MGA G200 - 16Mb > > Phillips SL200 19" monitor > > MS 2 button mouse on PS2 port > > > > The problem is, when I try to run X, XFree386, xdm, kdm or gdm it does > > not go to VGA mode but spews forth dialogue including the following > > lines which seem significant: > > > > could you post the output of running startx (try also as root to make > sure that there is no permission problems) and the file how do I pipe the output from startx to a file? > /var/log/XFree86.0.log which may help to see the error messages. > here is var/log/XFree86.0.log . This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any way. Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs) XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) Release Date: 21 December 2001 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.3-bk2 i686 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon May 3 09:01:35 2004 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout "Default Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor" (**) | |-->Device "Generic Video Card" (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104" (**) XKB: model: "pc104" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) XKB: layout: "us" (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse" (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse" (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" d
Re: Newby can't get Xwindows running
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 08:08:58AM -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote: > David Moore wrote: > >As a complete novice to Linux, please bear with me if my explanation of the > >problem is confused. > > > >I installed Debian 3.0 r2 woody kernel 2.2.20 (many times on 2 different > >machines) using defaults and keeping as simple as possible, but I have not > >been able to get XWindows running. > > > >I used taskel to select: XWindows, Desktop environment and C/C++ > > > >It boots into the bash shell fine except that during boot-up a message > >appears: "Modprobe can't locate char-major-10-135" (the pause key doesn't > >halt the screen during boot-up so other important message might flash past > >before I can write them down) > > > You can stop messages on a console with ctrl-s and start them again with > ctrl-q. But that applies only if the init process has already started, > not the kernel booting. Those are found on var/log/syslog or > /var/log/messages. > > Those char-xxx-xx-xxx things are documented in the kernel source but for > the world of me I don't remember where. Anybody? > It appears in the help section for each module (it appears in Documentation/Configure.help) but you can find most of them in /etc/modules.conf. char-major-10-135 is the real time clock (rtc) could be that its not configured or that it is compiled in and not as a module. > > > > >I have a Matrox MGA G200 - 16Mb > >Phillips SL200 19" monitor > >MS 2 button mouse on PS2 port > > > >The problem is, when I try to run X, XFree386, xdm, kdm or gdm it does not > >go to VGA mode but spews forth dialogue including the following lines which > >seem significant: > > > >"Warning couldn't open module mga_hal > >"MGA: Failed to load module mga_hal (Module does not exist, 0) > > > >"EE Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. > > > >"Fatal Server error no screens found > > > >if I run xf86cfg, it goes to VGA mode and brings up the XWindows > >configuration modules, but the mouse doesn't work. > > > >I run xf86config and re-enter the hardware specs (to the best of my > >ability), but this makes no difference. > > > >I am basic level user with unix (some years ago), and without gui feel like > >I have been thrown in the deep-end in a tied sack. If I had XWindows I > >could > >probably start swimming. > > > > You'll be swimming in notime. > > > >David > >-- > >David Moore > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newby can't get Xwindows running
David Moore wrote: As a complete novice to Linux, please bear with me if my explanation of the problem is confused. I installed Debian 3.0 r2 woody kernel 2.2.20 (many times on 2 different machines) using defaults and keeping as simple as possible, but I have not been able to get XWindows running. I used taskel to select: XWindows, Desktop environment and C/C++ It boots into the bash shell fine except that during boot-up a message appears: "Modprobe can't locate char-major-10-135" (the pause key doesn't halt the screen during boot-up so other important message might flash past before I can write them down) You can stop messages on a console with ctrl-s and start them again with ctrl-q. But that applies only if the init process has already started, not the kernel booting. Those are found on var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages. Those char-xxx-xx-xxx things are documented in the kernel source but for the world of me I don't remember where. Anybody? I have a Matrox MGA G200 - 16Mb Phillips SL200 19" monitor MS 2 button mouse on PS2 port The problem is, when I try to run X, XFree386, xdm, kdm or gdm it does not go to VGA mode but spews forth dialogue including the following lines which seem significant: " Warning couldn't open module mga_hal " MGA: Failed to load module mga_hal (Module does not exist, 0) " EE Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. " Fatal Server error no screens found if I run xf86cfg, it goes to VGA mode and brings up the XWindows configuration modules, but the mouse doesn't work. I run xf86config and re-enter the hardware specs (to the best of my ability), but this makes no difference. I am basic level user with unix (some years ago), and without gui feel like I have been thrown in the deep-end in a tied sack. If I had XWindows I could probably start swimming. You'll be swimming in notime. David -- David Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newby can't get Xwindows running
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:51:13PM +1000, David Moore wrote: > As a complete novice to Linux, please bear with me if my explanation of the > problem is confused. > > I installed Debian 3.0 r2 woody kernel 2.2.20 (many times on 2 different > machines) using defaults and keeping as simple as possible, but I have not > been able to get XWindows running. > If its a workstation and not a server I would get the new installer beta (sarge) and install either testing or unstable. The version of X there and the kernel version is much newer and could solve some problems, also IIRC the installer has some hardware recognition (don't know if for X though). I looked at the X version in stable and it looks like its 3.3.6 (which is very-very old). If you want to use stable go to http://www.backports.org/ and see how to add the backport packages (there is a HOWTO and installation instructions) and upgrade X (its 4.2.1 there although unstable and testing already have 4.3). unstable is more stable then it sounds (I rarely have problems and then it will just inhibit me from installing problematic packages unless I bypass things), testing is ok now since its entering a freezing state on its way to become stable, although usually unstable is more stable and secure then testing. For a desktop unstable is usually the best solution (unless you want to run stable with back-ports). You could also try the knoppix (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/), meppis (http://www.mepis.org/) which have good hardware recognition, can install to the hardisk or run of a cd and are based on mix of debian testing/unstable. > I used taskel to select: XWindows, Desktop environment and C/C++ > > It boots into the bash shell fine except that during boot-up a message > appears: "Modprobe can't locate char-major-10-135" (the pause key doesn't > halt the screen during boot-up so other important message might flash past > before I can write them down) > > I have a Matrox MGA G200 - 16Mb > Phillips SL200 19" monitor > MS 2 button mouse on PS2 port > > The problem is, when I try to run X, XFree386, xdm, kdm or gdm it does not > go to VGA mode but spews forth dialogue including the following lines which > seem significant: > could you post the output of running startx (try also as root to make sure that there is no permission problems) and the file /var/log/XFree86.0.log which may help to see the error messages. > " Warning couldn't open module mga_hal > " MGA: Failed to load module mga_hal (Module does not exist, 0) > Try using the generic vga driver as a start and see if that solves the problem first. If that works it will be easier to activate the mga driver next. Also try doing modprobe agpgart (assuming you have agp, don't remember if accelerated pci also uses agpgart or pcigart, try both). > " EE Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. > Try reducing the resolution and refresh rate as a start to 1024x768 and 75HZ as a maximum, maybe its having problems with recognizing your monitor. Again if this works its easier to improve afterwords. IIRC there is an simple and novice options for setting up the monitor refresh rates which should let you choose something close as a start. > " Fatal Server error no screens found > > if I run xf86cfg, it goes to VGA mode and brings up the XWindows > configuration modules, but the mouse doesn't work. > Could be that you mouse isn't configured properly. X will crash in such a case and give errors that seem to indicate screen problems instead of mouse problems. I ran into this several times and it was usually the last place where people look. What mouse do you have (brand and ps/2 or usb?). Post the generated /etc/X11/XF86Config. > I run xf86config and re-enter the hardware specs (to the best of my > ability), but this makes no difference. > > I am basic level user with unix (some years ago), and without gui feel like > I have been thrown in the deep-end in a tied sack. If I had XWindows I could > probably start swimming. > > David > -- > David Moore > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newby can't get Xwindows running
As a complete novice to Linux, please bear with me if my explanation of the problem is confused. I installed Debian 3.0 r2 woody kernel 2.2.20 (many times on 2 different machines) using defaults and keeping as simple as possible, but I have not been able to get XWindows running. I used taskel to select: XWindows, Desktop environment and C/C++ It boots into the bash shell fine except that during boot-up a message appears: "Modprobe can't locate char-major-10-135" (the pause key doesn't halt the screen during boot-up so other important message might flash past before I can write them down) I have a Matrox MGA G200 - 16Mb Phillips SL200 19" monitor MS 2 button mouse on PS2 port The problem is, when I try to run X, XFree386, xdm, kdm or gdm it does not go to VGA mode but spews forth dialogue including the following lines which seem significant: " Warning couldn't open module mga_hal " MGA: Failed to load module mga_hal (Module does not exist, 0) " EE Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. " Fatal Server error no screens found if I run xf86cfg, it goes to VGA mode and brings up the XWindows configuration modules, but the mouse doesn't work. I run xf86config and re-enter the hardware specs (to the best of my ability), but this makes no difference. I am basic level user with unix (some years ago), and without gui feel like I have been thrown in the deep-end in a tied sack. If I had XWindows I could probably start swimming. David -- David Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Xwindows in Sid
The same think happened to me last Thursday. Debian sid and KDE. I did an apt-update, apt-upgrade and startx stopped working. I followed that with an apt-dist upgrade, and startx still died. I found that X actually worked, but the window manager was failing. (I could start X at the command prompt.) I reinstalled kdm, did a cold reboot, and I was back in business. A hot reboot did not fix the problem. How do I know??? Nothing was working Saturday night, and I performed several warm reboots as I switched from Windows to Linux, so I turned off the machine and went to bed. Got up Sunday morning, started in again on the problem and I was able to login and use KDE right away. There were no errors in /var/log/XFree86.0.log. However, I did get an error from apt-upgrade referring to a bad line in my xdm config file. The line referenced was the last line in the file, and it did not contain the syntax referenced by the error message. Since I was not using xdm, I did not follow through on the issue. I just reinstalled kdm and I was back in business. I hope this was helpful - it all smacks of mumbo-jumbo, but I have not had the time to track down every aspect of this problem. I am trying to catch up on the lost productivity since I did not get my machine running correctly until Sunday. I do not know what caused the problem, but that is the wonderful life of living on the edge with sid! Cheers! Mark Phillips Phillips Marketing, Inc. 602 524-0376 office 480 945-9197 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Xwindows in Sid Curtis Howland wrote: >I did the usual >weekly or so update, and the Xwindows libraries were, >ah, "fixed" after a dist-upgrade to correct for the >file overlaps. However, X no longer works. > > > What errors are you getting? (/var/log/XFree86.0.log) -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows in Sid
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 10:14:08AM -0800, Curtis Howland wrote: > However, I have hit a serious snag. I did the usual > weekly or so update, and the Xwindows libraries were, > ah, "fixed" after a dist-upgrade to correct for the > file overlaps. However, X no longer works. > If anyone has a way through the morass without wiping > and reinstalling, I would love to hear about it. Not to lessen the impact of the problem you're having, but why in the world would you need to wipe the box and reinstall, just because X doesn't work? I could see perhaps needing to remove X completely, and put it back. > If there is a pointer to this already solved, I'd be grateful for that as > well. There's not, because you don't give any information. Define "no longer works", please. What does the log say, and what does it NOT say? No one can solve your problem if you don't tell them what the problem is. -- Marc Wilson | Use what talents you possess: the woods would be [EMAIL PROTECTED] | very silent if no birds sang there except those that | sang best. -- Henry Van Dyke -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows in Sid
Curtis Howland wrote: I did the usual weekly or so update, and the Xwindows libraries were, ah, "fixed" after a dist-upgrade to correct for the file overlaps. However, X no longer works. What errors are you getting? (/var/log/XFree86.0.log) -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xwindows in Sid
I've been running Sid for the past year or more, and have waded through a few nasty instabilities. Unstable is aptly named. However, I have hit a serious snag. I did the usual weekly or so update, and the Xwindows libraries were, ah, "fixed" after a dist-upgrade to correct for the file overlaps. However, X no longer works. If anyone has a way through the morass without wiping and reinstalling, I would love to hear about it. If there is a pointer to this already solved, I'd be grateful for that as well. Lynx has its limitations as a browser, and it's all I have to work with now. Curt- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: erased all XWindows
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Sam Rosenfeld wrote:
> I erased all my X-related bin files (that is, including apps running
> on X)
> and did not have them backed up. I could reinstall them one at a time
> but
> that seems very laborious -- is there some better way?
>
> Currently using Linux 2.2.20, Debian Woody
>
> As I no longer subscribe to the list, please cc me with reponses.
> >
> >
> >
> >>This is better:
> >>
> >>sudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/bin/* | sed
> >>'s/^\([^,]*\):[^,]*/\1/' |sort |uniq`
> >>
> >>Essentially, if you only deleted the files in /usr/X11R6/bin/ (and did
> >>not harm the package archive) this command, will search for and print
> >>the name of every package with a file installed to /usr/X11R6/bin/
> >>(dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/bin/*). Then take that list and remove everything
> >>after the end of each package name sed ('s/^\([^,]*\):[^,]*/\1/'), sort
> >>the package names (sort), remove duplicate entries (uniq), and finally
> >>reinstall all the packages, (sudo apt-get --reinstall install `the
> >>output of the above commands`).
> >>
> >>HTH,
> >>
> >>-Roberto
> >>
> >
> > I tried your recommended command line (running as root instead of sudo)
> > and the result was a prompt -- ">" -- . Furthermore, my unintentional
> > removal of the /usr/X11R6/bin/ directory somehow also caused apt-get to
> > reject /etc/apt/sources.list which had been working fine for a number of
> > months.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > sam
> >
>
> Sorry for not replying earlier, but my internet connection has been down
> since Tuesday night. Make sure that you take note of the difference
> between the single quotes (' - on the same key as ") and the bakc-tick
> (` - on the same key as the ~).
>
> As far as your sources.list, what is the exact error message?
>
> -Roberto
Thanks, Roberto. It was that last back tick that I missed. Also, I
straightened out the sources.list problem -- I put the same data in the
/var/lib/apt/sources.list and in /etc/apt/sources.list. And, voila, it
all worked like a charm.
sam
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Re: erased all XWindows
Sam Rosenfeld wrote:
I erased all my X-related bin files (that is, including apps running
on X)
and did not have them backed up. I could reinstall them one at a time
but
that seems very laborious -- is there some better way?
Currently using Linux 2.2.20, Debian Woody
As I no longer subscribe to the list, please cc me with reponses.
This is better:
sudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/bin/* | sed
's/^\([^,]*\):[^,]*/\1/' |sort |uniq`
Essentially, if you only deleted the files in /usr/X11R6/bin/ (and did
not harm the package archive) this command, will search for and print
the name of every package with a file installed to /usr/X11R6/bin/
(dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/bin/*). Then take that list and remove everything
after the end of each package name sed ('s/^\([^,]*\):[^,]*/\1/'), sort
the package names (sort), remove duplicate entries (uniq), and finally
reinstall all the packages, (sudo apt-get --reinstall install `the
output of the above commands`).
HTH,
-Roberto
I tried your recommended command line (running as root instead of sudo)
and the result was a prompt -- ">" -- . Furthermore, my unintentional
removal of the /usr/X11R6/bin/ directory somehow also caused apt-get to
reject /etc/apt/sources.list which had been working fine for a number of
months.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
sam
Sorry for not replying earlier, but my internet connection has been down
since Tuesday night. Make sure that you take note of the difference
between the single quotes (' - on the same key as ") and the bakc-tick
(` - on the same key as the ~).
As far as your sources.list, what is the exact error message?
-Roberto
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Re: erased all XWindows
Roberto Sanchez wrote: Kent West wrote: Roberto Sanchez wrote: Sam Rosenfeld wrote: I erased all my X-related bin files (that is, including apps running on X) and did not have them backed up. I could reinstall them one at a time but that seems very laborious -- is there some better way? sudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/bin/* | sed 's/^\([^,]*\):[^,]*/\1/' |sort |uniq` Essentially, [this does magic]. Sweet. Linux is so awesome. One of the myriad of reasons I will never use M$ Widows again for anything more serious than games. It is a hoy OS after all :-) ^ That should be toy. Sorry for the fat finger. BTW, that little bit-o-magic took less than 5 minutes to cook up. Linux is awesome. -Roberto -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: erased all XWindows
Kent West wrote: Roberto Sanchez wrote: Sam Rosenfeld wrote: I erased all my X-related bin files (that is, including apps running on X) and did not have them backed up. I could reinstall them one at a time but that seems very laborious -- is there some better way? sudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/bin/* | sed 's/^\([^,]*\):[^,]*/\1/' |sort |uniq` Essentially, [this does magic]. Sweet. Linux is so awesome. One of the myriad of reasons I will never use M$ Widows again for anything more serious than games. It is a hoy OS after all :-) BTW, that little bit-o-magic took less than 5 minutes to cook up. Linux is awesome. -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: erased all XWindows
Roberto Sanchez wrote: Sam Rosenfeld wrote: I erased all my X-related bin files (that is, including apps running on X) and did not have them backed up. I could reinstall them one at a time but that seems very laborious -- is there some better way? sudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/bin/* | sed 's/^\([^,]*\):[^,]*/\1/' |sort |uniq` Essentially, [this does magic]. Sweet. Linux is so awesome. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: erased all XWindows
Kent West wrote:
Sam Rosenfeld wrote:
I erased all my X-related bin files (that is, including apps running
on X)
and did not have them backed up. I could reinstall them one at a time
but
that seems very laborious -- is there some better way?
Currently using Linux 2.2.20, Debian Woody
As I no longer subscribe to the list, please cc me with reponses.
Thanks.
sam
You could try tasksel, which would get you quite a bit of it back.
I'd probably use dselect or aptitude, and just go marking things for
install that look interesting. Then start the download/install and go
strum on the guitar for half an hour (or four days, if you're on dial-up).
Neither of these is reinstallation one at a time, but you will have to
mark one at a time to get a lot of what you want.
This is better:
sudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/bin/* | sed
's/^\([^,]*\):[^,]*/\1/' |sort |uniq`
Essentially, if you only deleted the files in /usr/X11R6/bin/ (and did
not harm the package archive) this command, will search for and print
the name of every package with a file installed to /usr/X11R6/bin/
(dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/bin/*). Then take that list and remove everything
after the end of each package name sed ('s/^\([^,]*\):[^,]*/\1/'), sort
the package names (sort), remove duplicate entries (uniq), and finally
reinstall all the packages, (sudo apt-get --reinstall install `the
output of the above commands`).
Admittedly, this will take a while to donwload and reinstall all the
packages, but it will ensure that you get all of the packages even if
they are not part of the X Windows System task.
HTH,
-Roberto
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Re: erased all XWindows
Sam Rosenfeld wrote: I erased all my X-related bin files (that is, including apps running on X) and did not have them backed up. I could reinstall them one at a time but that seems very laborious -- is there some better way? Currently using Linux 2.2.20, Debian Woody As I no longer subscribe to the list, please cc me with reponses. Thanks. sam You could try tasksel, which would get you quite a bit of it back. I'd probably use dselect or aptitude, and just go marking things for install that look interesting. Then start the download/install and go strum on the guitar for half an hour (or four days, if you're on dial-up). Neither of these is reinstallation one at a time, but you will have to mark one at a time to get a lot of what you want. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I erased all my X-related bin files (that is, including apps running on X) and did not have them backed up. I could reinstall them one at a time but that seems very laborious -- is there some better way? Currently using Linux 2.2.20, Debian Woody As I no longer subscribe to the list, please cc me with reponses. Thanks. sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody: TaskSel - XWindows; startx fails
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:30:26 -0500, David Z Maze wrote: > Paul Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> If one is setting up a server, one may only want to run an X server >> (XFree86, for example) on that machine, and not an X client. Other >> machines on the network would be running X clients and connecting with the >> server's X server. One doesn't need stuff like window managers running on >> the server. > > That sounds backwards and confusing. An X server talks to the > keyboard and display on the machine it's running on; an X client runs > on some machine and has its display on some X server not necessarily > on the same machine. xterm is an X client, for example. So a server > (sitting in a rack) probably wouldn't have an X server, but it might > have client programs installed that people could log in and run > remotely. A window manager happens to be a special case of an X > client, and it's possible to run it remotely, but it's rarely what you > actually want. :-) Desktop environments like GNOME and KDE in my > experience tend to be happiest if they're running on the same machine > that the X server is on. My apologies, I wrote it ass backwards without thinking. It's not my area of expertise and I screwed it up. I withdraw my post (wish I could delete it) and tanks for the much more rational explanation which had me slapping my head when I read it. I'm now going to put my head up a horse's ass. -- paul It's working as coded. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody: TaskSel - XWindows; startx fails
Paul Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If one is setting up a server, one may only want to run an X server > (XFree86, for example) on that machine, and not an X client. Other > machines on the network would be running X clients and connecting with the > server's X server. One doesn't need stuff like window managers running on > the server. That sounds backwards and confusing. An X server talks to the keyboard and display on the machine it's running on; an X client runs on some machine and has its display on some X server not necessarily on the same machine. xterm is an X client, for example. So a server (sitting in a rack) probably wouldn't have an X server, but it might have client programs installed that people could log in and run remotely. A window manager happens to be a special case of an X client, and it's possible to run it remotely, but it's rarely what you actually want. :-) Desktop environments like GNOME and KDE in my experience tend to be happiest if they're running on the same machine that the X server is on. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody: TaskSel - XWindows; startx fails
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:21:02 -0600, J N wrote: > When installing woody, after getting to the tasksel screen, I noticed > that choosing "XWindowServer" option by itself did not resolve enough > dependencies to be able to run the server. I also tried apt-get install > kdm, suspecting that I just needed to choose a window manager, however, > kdm wouldn't resolve either. > > My (rather blunt) solution to the problem was to choose the "desktop" > option in tasksel as well -- that appears to resolve whatever > dependencies need resolving. I know just (not) enough about > XWindowServer theory to suspect that this may be by design -- that I > need to make some sort of 'choice' about my environment that is made by > selecting the "desktop" option. > > Does anyone know why this is, or if it is just specific to laptops, or > if it is just that something failed that should have worked? > > I'm interested in theory. I don't have the specific error messages on > hand (to get them, I would need to do a fair amount of work) -- but I'm > learning how to compile kernels, and the process has resulting in > needing to reinstall debian woody about 6 times so far... (yes, I'm > doing things terribly wrong and I'm aware of it)... I figure > reinstallation will go faster if I don't install all of XWindowsServer > and the desktop each time... > > Thanks! > > -Jason. If one is setting up a server, one may only want to run an X server (XFree86, for example) on that machine, and not an X client. Other machines on the network would be running X clients and connecting with the server's X server. One doesn't need stuff like window managers running on the server. As you evidently wish to run both server and client, then you need the desktop setup. A window manager is part of the client, not the server. BTW, startx starts a client X session. Try man startx, man Xserver, man XFree86, etc. This is necessarily very brief and incomplete, but I hope it gives you the picture. -- paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Woody: TaskSel - XWindows; startx fails
When installing woody, after getting to the tasksel screen, I noticed that choosing "XWindowServer" option by itself did not resolve enough dependencies to be able to run the server. I also tried apt-get install kdm, suspecting that I just needed to choose a window manager, however, kdm wouldn't resolve either. My (rather blunt) solution to the problem was to choose the "desktop" option in tasksel as well -- that appears to resolve whatever dependencies need resolving. I know just (not) enough about XWindowServer theory to suspect that this may be by design -- that I need to make some sort of 'choice' about my environment that is made by selecting the "desktop" option. Does anyone know why this is, or if it is just specific to laptops, or if it is just that something failed that should have worked? I'm interested in theory. I don't have the specific error messages on hand (to get them, I would need to do a fair amount of work) -- but I'm learning how to compile kernels, and the process has resulting in needing to reinstall debian woody about 6 times so far... (yes, I'm doing things terribly wrong and I'm aware of it)... I figure reinstallation will go faster if I don't install all of XWindowsServer and the desktop each time... Thanks! -Jason. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shell prompt for xwindows
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 04:51:34AM -0800, Gruessle wrote: > > > What is the shell prompt for xwindows? > The windowing system in Linux is mult-layered. under everything is the libraries. There are libraries for X, for kde and gnome the next layer is X itself which uses X libraries X itself just makes the screen grey and makes the cursor and other things. on top of X is the window manager. twm, windowmaker, sawfish, kde are windowmanagers. They make the 'edges' of the windows appear and allow you to move the windows. The windows contain terminals or web browsers or such. So, when you run a command like xterm, it creates a window and puts a shell inside it. This is a simplification. Others may want to fill in more details. -Kev signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: shell prompt for xwindows
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 04:51:34AM -0800, Gruessle wrote: > > > What is the shell prompt for xwindows? Run xterm, rxvt, wterm, eterm, kterm or other xshells. (See your KDE/Gnome or other menu in X11). Regards Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch "The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom, and before honour is humility." Proverbs 15:33 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shell prompt for xwindows
Gruessle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > What is the shell prompt for xwindows? I'm not sure exactly what you mean. You could always start an xterm (or one of the other packages that provide x-terminal-emulator) from within X; that will give you shell. Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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re- re- xwindows
steef wrote: > .hey out there, > > can somebody tell me how come: > > - installing woody_kernelvariant bf2.4; taskel does not give the possibility to install Xwindows a f t e r having installed debian security packages. so apt cannot get the Xwindowspackages from the (ftp) server. > > when i install woody, bf24 w i t h o u t security packages all goes well:, normal. > > does somebody has an idea what causes this blockade? > > [tried this out on three completely different machines with vanilla && as well with the same results as for bf24] > Hopefully somone comes back with a good answer soon. Until then, I just wanted to confirm that I have installed woody on a number of machines initially using the bf2.4 kernel and installed the xserver-xfree86 package. Are you installing using another kernel package, then selecting the vf2.4 and xserver-? Have you tried installing from a base-install source that has the bf2.4 kernel? What xserver package are you trying to install? xserver-xfree86? What server are you using for your local debian mirror? http://ftp.nl.debian.org/ ? -- Jacob . no, jacob, i am not using another than the standard kernel-package for woody stable, yes i did that, if you mean a so called 'short' cdrom which i downloaded from the internet with the base-package && kernel modules (sound, scsi em. etc.) yes, the standard package as well, i think, xserver-xfree86, which apt-get gets from the ftp-server, yes, i am using our local ftp: ...ftp.nl.debian.org thank you for your reaction, steef thank you jacob, for your reaction. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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steef wrote: .hey out there, can somebody tell me how come: - installing woody_kernelvariant bf2.4; taskel does not give the possibility to install Xwindows a f t e r having installed debian security packages. so apt cannot get the Xwindowspackages from the (ftp) server. when i install woody, bf24 w i t h o u t security packages all goes well:, normal. does somebody has an idea what causes this blockade? [tried this out on three completely different machines with vanilla && as well with the same results as for bf24] Hopefully somone comes back with a good answer soon. Until then, I just wanted to confirm that I have installed woody on a number of machines initially using the bf2.4 kernel and installed the xserver-xfree86 package. Are you installing using another kernel package, then selecting the vf2.4 and xserver-? Have you tried installing from a base-install source that has the bf2.4 kernel? What xserver package are you trying to install? xserver-xfree86? What server are you using for your local debian mirror? http://ftp.nl.debian.org/ ? -- Jacob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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.hey out there, can somebody tell me how come: - installing woody_kernelvariant bf2.4; taskel does not give the possibility to install Xwindows a f t e r having installed debian security packages. so apt cannot get the Xwindowspackages from the (ftp) server. when i install woody, bf24 w i t h o u t security packages all goes well:, normal. does somebody has an idea what causes this blockade? [tried this out on three completely different machines with vanilla && as well with the same results as for bf24] cheers, steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
device ownership for Xwindows user
Greetings all, I'm an old Linux user (started with the TAMU 0.99 release) who got busy with life and kids, and lazy and ran RedHat. I'm switching to Debian to get back to my roots and have a few, probably brainless, questions. First on my list is that in RedHat the /etc/security/console.perms grants temporary ownership of the device files listed in it to the user logged on to X. So I'd set it up for the tty devs with my modem and palm pilot, the cd burner, the usb port for my Kodak camera, etc. At login the X user would become the owner of the listed devices, at logout, they would revert to the standard device owner. Is there a comparable mechanism in Debian? TIA, Chuck -- --- |Chuck Mattern | "People often find it easier to be a result | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | of the past than a cause of the future."| --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configuring xwindows?
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Andreas Janssen wrote: > Hello > > Jake Johnson (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > I have seen that redhat does a great job with configuring the xserver > > and > > I was hoping that Debian has something comparable. Please let me know > > so I don't have to try and play with xf86config! > > The way I prefer is to configure X with debconf: > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 > (if you use XFree 4) > > There are also some packages that can help you get information about > your hardware, for example hwdata, discover and read-edid (to read your > monitor capabilities). > > best regards > Andreas Janssen > > Thanks a ton. Once I tweaked the config a little everything worked great. -- Regards, Jake Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Plutoid - http://www.plutoid.com - Shop Plutoid for the best prices on Rims, Tires, and Performance Parts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: old laptop I need ugly fast Xwindows please
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 10:26:53AM -0500, wsykes.lists wrote: > All, > I have a crappy old Compaq Presario 1210, and KDE runs like a dog on it. > I really only need a couple of xterminals, and mouse functionality. Good. Don't run KDE. > What version of Xwindows is light and fast on older boxes. I dont care how > ugly it is. Keep your X version. > Will I need to run xdm, or kdm? Doesn't matter. Xdm is faster, but also ugly. Kdm is not too slow, you only use it to log into your machine. It has the advantage of presenting you with a choice of window managers. What _does_ matter is the window manager you use. KDE and Gnome are entire desktop environments and thus very slow, especially the new versions. Run another WM, like icewm or the *boxes which already have been mentioned. Personally, I like WindowMaker. I use it at home and compiled it at work to get rid of CDE while not having to run twm (I did run twm for a few months, but well, I could only stand it for so long...) David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: old laptop I need ugly fast Xwindows please
thanks everybody , i got fluxbox running with xdm , its ugly and fast , I appreciate all of your replies! -will On Wednesday 13 August 2003 12:36, David Fokkema wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 10:26:53AM -0500, wsykes.lists wrote: > > All, > > I have a crappy old Compaq Presario 1210, and KDE runs like a dog on it. > > I really only need a couple of xterminals, and mouse functionality. > > Good. Don't run KDE. > > > What version of Xwindows is light and fast on older boxes. I dont care > > how ugly it is. > > Keep your X version. > > > Will I need to run xdm, or kdm? > > Doesn't matter. Xdm is faster, but also ugly. Kdm is not too slow, you > only use it to log into your machine. It has the advantage of presenting > you with a choice of window managers. > > What _does_ matter is the window manager you use. KDE and Gnome are > entire desktop environments and thus very slow, especially the new > versions. Run another WM, like icewm or the *boxes which already have > been mentioned. Personally, I like WindowMaker. I use it at home and > compiled it at work to get rid of CDE while not having to run twm (I did > run twm for a few months, but well, I could only stand it for so > long...) > > David -- William Sykes Systems Engineer DeepNines -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: old laptop I need ugly fast Xwindows please
Title: Message I use IceWM on an IBM ThinkPad 380D (P150 MMX, 80 MB RAM, 2.1 GB HDD) and it runs great. I had tried to run GNOME in the past and it worked... but, man... it had to work pretty hard. You can go with the unstable version (I haven't had any problems). I think you need to install these: -> xfree86-common -> xbase-clients -> xfonts-100dpi -> xfonts-75dpi -> xfonts-artwiz -> xfonts-base -> xlibs -> xserver-common -> xserver-xfree86 -> xterm (optional!) -> xutils -> icewm -> icewm-common But you don't have to take my word for it! -Jason -Original Message-From: Preston Boyington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:01 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: old laptop I need ugly fast Xwindows please > > All, > I have a crappy old Compaq Presario 1210, and KDE runs like a > dog on it. > I really only need a couple of xterminals, and mouse functionality. > > What version of Xwindows is light and fast on older boxes. I > dont care how > ugly it is. > > Will I need to run xdm, or kdm? > > Do i even need an xsession manager? > > Thanks > -Will > I use Fluxbox (with Gkrellum) on my old Compaq Armada 4130T (133mhz, 32mb ram, 1gig hdd) and have been pleased. IceWM, Openbox, Fluxbox, and even Blackbox are good choices (and their not even ugly). -- Preston
RE: old laptop I need ugly fast Xwindows please
Title: RE: old laptop I need ugly fast Xwindows please > > All, > I have a crappy old Compaq Presario 1210, and KDE runs like a > dog on it. > I really only need a couple of xterminals, and mouse functionality. > > What version of Xwindows is light and fast on older boxes. I > dont care how > ugly it is. > > Will I need to run xdm, or kdm? > > Do i even need an xsession manager? > > Thanks > -Will > I use Fluxbox (with Gkrellum) on my old Compaq Armada 4130T (133mhz, 32mb ram, 1gig hdd) and have been pleased. IceWM, Openbox, Fluxbox, and even Blackbox are good choices (and their not even ugly). -- Preston
Re: old laptop I need ugly fast Xwindows please
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 11:26, wsykes.lists wrote: > All, > I have a crappy old Compaq Presario 1210, and KDE runs like a dog on it. > I really only need a couple of xterminals, and mouse functionality. > > What version of Xwindows is light and fast on older boxes. I dont care how > ugly it is. > > Will I need to run xdm, or kdm? > > Do i even need an xsession manager? use startx and fluxbox. Lots of bell and whistles for the price of no bells and whistles. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMEMBER ED CURRY! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry Convexion sees between your eyes. Herds of gazelle concave at your feet! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: configuring xwindows?
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86] Wayne On Sunday 10 August 2003 20:21, Antony Gelberg wrote: > On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 01:51:29PM -0400, Jake Johnson wrote: > > Hello, > > I have seen that redhat does a great job with configuring the xserver and > > I was hoping that Debian has something comparable. Please let me know so > > I don't have to try and play with xf86config! > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Jake Johnson > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When you install the xserver with apt-get install xserver-xfree86, > debconf will run and ask some questions. Provided you are aware of your > video card type and monitor capabilities, you should be ok. > > A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello, I have seen that redhat does a great job with configuring the xserver and I was hoping that Debian has something comparable. Please let me know so I don't have to try and play with xf86config! -- Regards, Jake Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Plutoid - http://www.plutoid.com - Shop Plutoid for the best prices on Rims, Tires, and Performance Parts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configuring xwindows?
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 13:51:29 -0400 Jake Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > I have seen that redhat does a great job with configuring the xserver > and I was hoping that Debian has something comparable. Please let me > know so I don't have to try and play with xf86config! > Debian configures everything correct by default. Just not for my hardware. Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configuring xwindows?
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 13:51, Jake Johnson wrote: > Hello, > I have seen that redhat does a great job with configuring the xserver and > I was hoping that Debian has something comparable. Please let me know so > I don't have to try and play with xf86config! as root dpkg-recondfigure xserver-xfree86 Know you Hardware... get the output from lspci for the bus ID. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMEMBER ED CURRY! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry Woods nymphs sprinkle your path with bowlings balls while you dance and prowl in the sequined moonlight with leftover heads of lettuce. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: old laptop I need ugly fast Xwindows please
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:03:35 -0500 Preston Boyington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What version of Xwindows is light and fast on older boxes. I > > dont care how > > ugly it is. I use fluxbox on all my Debian systems. It's light, fast, and not even ugly. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
old laptop I need ugly fast Xwindows please
All, I have a crappy old Compaq Presario 1210, and KDE runs like a dog on it. I really only need a couple of xterminals, and mouse functionality. What version of Xwindows is light and fast on older boxes. I dont care how ugly it is. Will I need to run xdm, or kdm? Do i even need an xsession manager? Thanks -Will -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: old laptop I need ugly fast Xwindows please
wsykes.lists wrote: All, I have a crappy old Compaq Presario 1210, and KDE runs like a dog on it. I really only need a couple of xterminals, and mouse functionality. What version of Xwindows is light and fast on older boxes. I dont care how ugly it is. Will I need to run xdm, or kdm? Do i even need an xsession manager? Thanks -Will I use fluxbox + gkrellm, works a treat and looks good . Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configuring xwindows?
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Andreas Janssen wrote: > Hello > > Jake Johnson (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > I have seen that redhat does a great job with configuring the xserver > > and > > I was hoping that Debian has something comparable. Please let me know > > so I don't have to try and play with xf86config! > > The way I prefer is to configure X with debconf: > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 > (if you use XFree 4) > > There are also some packages that can help you get information about > your hardware, for example hwdata, discover and read-edid (to read your > monitor capabilities). > > best regards > Andreas Janssen > > when i do this apt creates a xf86config-4 file but start x doesn't read it. Do you know why this is? -- Regards, Jake Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Plutoid - http://www.plutoid.com - Shop Plutoid for the best prices on Rims, Tires, and Performance Parts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configuring xwindows?
On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 01:51:29PM -0400, Jake Johnson wrote: > Hello, > I have seen that redhat does a great job with configuring the xserver and > I was hoping that Debian has something comparable. Please let me know so > I don't have to try and play with xf86config! > > -- > Regards, > Jake Johnson > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > When you install the xserver with apt-get install xserver-xfree86, debconf will run and ask some questions. Provided you are aware of your video card type and monitor capabilities, you should be ok. A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configuring xwindows?
Hello Jake Johnson (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I have seen that redhat does a great job with configuring the xserver > and > I was hoping that Debian has something comparable. Please let me know > so I don't have to try and play with xf86config! The way I prefer is to configure X with debconf: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (if you use XFree 4) There are also some packages that can help you get information about your hardware, for example hwdata, discover and read-edid (to read your monitor capabilities). best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 Registered Linux User #267976 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Xwindows on Dell Precision M50
> -Original Message- > From: dhobner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Xwindows on Dell Precision M50 > > > I am stuck. Has anyone successfully installed Xwindows on a Dell Precision > M50 laptop? Running xdm or kdm causes the display to flash on/off three > times but never brings up windows. > > Dan I had the same symptoms on my Dell GX150 (not laptop).Graphics device was the i815. If the graphics device on the M50 is i815 or i810 then have a look at this url: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/i810-HOWTO/index.html Good luck! Rolf E. Robberstad -- http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows on Dell Precision M50
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 06:57:42AM -0400, dhobner wrote: > I am going to send this out for help one more time. > > -Original Message- > From: dhobner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Xwindows on Dell Precision M50 > > > I am stuck. Has anyone successfully installed Xwindows on a Dell Precision > M50 laptop? Running xdm or kdm causes the display to flash on/off three > times but never brings up windows. Didn't see this one come by yesterday... If you want help from somebody who actually _has_ installed x-windows on a Dell Precision M50, try googling. For example, I know (now) that a certain Chuck Gerhardt has installed Red Hat 7.3 on a Dell Precision M50 without any trouble, although he had to download the NVidia drivers from the website. If you want help from the rest of us, please give us some details on your hardware configuration. For example, I (now) know that you are probably using an nvidia card. Mentioning something like this might give you a _lot_ of responses from everyone who has (tried) to install the nvidia drivers. They're quite active these days, ;-) HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Xwindows on Dell Precision M50
I am going to send this out for help one more time. -Original Message- From: dhobner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Xwindows on Dell Precision M50 I am stuck. Has anyone successfully installed Xwindows on a Dell Precision M50 laptop? Running xdm or kdm causes the display to flash on/off three times but never brings up windows. Dan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xwindows on Dell Precision M50
I am stuck. Has anyone successfully installed Xwindows on a Dell Precision M50 laptop? Running xdm or kdm causes the display to flash on/off three times but never brings up windows. Dan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Installed iptraf ... lost XWindows
Stephen and Claudia Handley said: > Hi Nate, > > I think you're spot on in your assesment. > > It does have 'stable' entries. > > My Debian version was 2.2. I thought when I researched IPTraf that it > worked for Debian 2.2 and above. > > The output from ls -l /lib/libc.so.6* > > shows me > > libc.so.6 -> libc.2.2.5.so > > So any ideas of how I might fix the problem? I think all my other packages > (Raid, Apache, QMail etc) are working OK. So if I can just get XWindows > and IPTraf up and running I'll be fine. I'd really reccomend you finish the upgrade to woody if it's not done already. Having a half woody half potato system probably is not a very good idea for the long run. I reccomend: apt-get update ;apt-get dist-upgrade and finish the upgrade. you probably will want to recompile qmail for the new glibc, though it may work fine as is. Luckily woody includes xfree86 3.3.6 like potato so it should be easy to get X working again, here's the packages I use for X 3.3.6 on woody: xserver-common xserver-svga xserver-vga16 xbase-clients xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfs or you can re-configure your system to use X v4. If your system worked fine on potato with 3.3.6, the fastest way to get back up and going is to stick to 3.3.6, since your configuration file is already done & known good. good luck! and this may be a good thing, upgrading to woody is good since support for it will(most likey) get dropped in a few months. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Installed iptraf ... lost XWindows
Hi Nate, I think you're spot on in your assesment. It does have 'stable' entries. My Debian version was 2.2. I thought when I researched IPTraf that it worked for Debian 2.2 and above. The output from ls -l /lib/libc.so.6* shows me libc.so.6 -> libc.2.2.5.so So any ideas of how I might fix the problem? I think all my other packages (Raid, Apache, QMail etc) are working OK. So if I can just get XWindows and IPTraf up and running I'll be fine. Cheers Stephen -Original Message- From: nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Installed iptraf ... lost XWindows Stephen Handley said: > Hi there, > > I'm hoping someone out there can help me. > > I'm running a Debian (Potato) box as my home server. > > Recently I did an > > apt-get install iptraf what is in your /etc/apt/sources.list ? sounds like it may have 'stable' entries, and sounds like you may of asked it to install the 'stable' (aka woody) version of iptraf, and it sounds like the system tried to upgrade a bunch of other stuff in the process. what does cat /etc/debian_version say? what about the output from ls -l /lib/libc.so.6* nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installed iptraf ... lost XWindows
Stephen Handley said: > Hi there, > > I'm hoping someone out there can help me. > > I'm running a Debian (Potato) box as my home server. > > Recently I did an > > apt-get install iptraf what is in your /etc/apt/sources.list ? sounds like it may have 'stable' entries, and sounds like you may of asked it to install the 'stable' (aka woody) version of iptraf, and it sounds like the system tried to upgrade a bunch of other stuff in the process. what does cat /etc/debian_version say? what about the output from ls -l /lib/libc.so.6* nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installed iptraf ... lost XWindows
Hi there, I'm hoping someone out there can help me. I'm running a Debian (Potato) box as my home server. Recently I did an apt-get install iptraf so I could monitor my LAN traffic. It told me it was going to remove a bunch of packages (mostly gnome and xwindows stuff) but it also appeared to be installing what I presumed were newer versions of the XWindows packages. However, now that the installation is complete, XWindows appears to have vanished. Neither startx or xf86config do anything. And yet when I tyoe dpkg -l or dselect, the Xserver stuff appears to be installed. I must admit that I'm a bit rusty when it comes to messing around on the Debian box, so any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance Stephen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xwindows
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 07:43:52PM -0500, Bob Wheate wrote: > i got it working late last nite,im new to debian and the install was > different from other flavors,how ever once i got it working i enjoy "woody" > a lot,i'm led to believe that the kernel is 2.2.x,is that correct ?,any way > thanks for the reply,my internet access is limited. > Running "uname -a" will identify which kernel is being used. Alternative, check contents of /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/messages for boot messages. 2.4.x kernel images are also available. To get a list: # apt-get update # apt-cache showpkg kernel-image > bob w. > > -Original Message- > From: Bas Zoetekouw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:32 AM > To: Bob Wheate > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: xwindows > > > Hi Bob! > > You wrote: > > > i successfully installed debian,how do you start xwindows ? > > Normally, X is started with the command "startx". Alternatively, you can > install a so-called display manager (like wdm or kdm), which will start > X and present you with a nice login window. > > BTW: this list (debian-project) is meant for (non-technical) discussions > about the Debian project. You should direct your user questions to the > debian-user mailing list (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/) > > -- > Kind regards, > ++ > | Bas Zoetekouw | GPG key: 0644fab7 | > || Fingerprint: c1f5 f24c d514 3fec 8bf6 | > | [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] | a2b1 2bae e41f 0644 fab7 | > ++ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Jerome msg26285/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: xwindows
i got it working late last nite,im new to debian and the install was different from other flavors,how ever once i got it working i enjoy "woody" a lot,i'm led to believe that the kernel is 2.2.x,is that correct ?,any way thanks for the reply,my internet access is limited. bob w. -Original Message- From: Bas Zoetekouw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:32 AM To: Bob Wheate Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: xwindows Hi Bob! You wrote: > i successfully installed debian,how do you start xwindows ? Normally, X is started with the command "startx". Alternatively, you can install a so-called display manager (like wdm or kdm), which will start X and present you with a nice login window. BTW: this list (debian-project) is meant for (non-technical) discussions about the Debian project. You should direct your user questions to the debian-user mailing list (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/) -- Kind regards, ++ | Bas Zoetekouw | GPG key: 0644fab7 | || Fingerprint: c1f5 f24c d514 3fec 8bf6 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] | a2b1 2bae e41f 0644 fab7 | ++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xwindows
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 03:32:00PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > Hi Bob! > > You wrote: > > > i successfully installed debian,how do you start xwindows ? > > Normally, X is started with the command "startx". Alternatively, you can > install a so-called display manager (like wdm or kdm), which will start > X and present you with a nice login window. Although, if you just installed Debian, you might have to install X before startx will work. -- Seneca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xwindows
Hi Bob! You wrote: > i successfully installed debian,how do you start xwindows ? Normally, X is started with the command "startx". Alternatively, you can install a so-called display manager (like wdm or kdm), which will start X and present you with a nice login window. BTW: this list (debian-project) is meant for (non-technical) discussions about the Debian project. You should direct your user questions to the debian-user mailing list (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/) -- Kind regards, ++ | Bas Zoetekouw | GPG key: 0644fab7 | || Fingerprint: c1f5 f24c d514 3fec 8bf6 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] | a2b1 2bae e41f 0644 fab7 | ++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] XWindows modelines from Windoze video modes
My monitor stores its screen geometry adjustments in non-volatile memory. It analyses the incoming video signal in order to select the correct set of geometry settings for the video mode it's getting. Unfortunately, it has a very small NVRAM and can only store settings for 4 modes. X uses somewhat different timings for the same nominal screen res / refresh rate as I use in Windoze, so the monitor thinks it's a different mode. The result is that when I set up the geometry correctly for X, I lose my Windoze settings, and vice versa. This is a bit of a long shot, but does anyone (?who has had the same problem?) have a util that can extract the video card settings that Windoze is using, so I can generate a ModeLine for my XF86Config? Thanks! Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trouble installing Xwindows on debian 3.0 (woody)
Srini Vasan said: > Hi, > > I am a debian newbie ( coming from the mandrake world)... > I am having trouble getting XFree86 to work correctly on my > machine...When I run startx .. it crashes and xfree86config suggests > running "SuperProbe" to get the right characteristics for my video card > before re-running the config. > > But I cant find SuperProbe on my system ( I did a search ) Is there a > simple utility that I could run which will detect all the hardware and > select the right options (like Mandrake does SO WELL)... the best suggestion i can suggest is X -probeonly that will attempt to auto detect everything. I suggest first creating /dev/mouse, if your using a ps2 mouse something like: cd /dev ; ln -s psaux mouse I am not aware of some 'catchall' debian-specific utility. something else that would help is if you told the list what video card you use. if it's something like 810 or 815 or some other strange chipset it may be more difficult then just X -probeonly or even xf86config. There is a tool called anxious, which tries to do what you want, but last time I tried it, it could only detect a few different cards. if your using a nvidia card and want 3d acceleration you need to compile and install the modules for it. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
