Re: about 10th new install of bookworm!

2024-06-05 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2024-06-05 22:08 (UTC-0400):

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> ...or disabling the motherboard's
>> sound device in BIOS setup, whichever is applicable, before beginning
>> installation, as a possible thwart to the Gnome must have everything 
>> paradigm, if
>> blocking Gnome entirely is unacceptable.

> That might be useful advice, but the sound card is not readily 
> removable, its built into this asus motherboard

Hence, removing its functionality by disabling sound device in UEFI BIOS setup.
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Re: about 10th new install of bookworm!

2024-06-05 Thread gene heskett

On 6/5/24 21:05, Felix Miata wrote:

gene heskett composed on 2024-06-05 11:21 (UTC-0400):


I always get re-install instructions.  Frustrating.


Should you choose to accept any fresh installation suggestion by doing another,
consider removing the sound card from its slot, or disabling the motherboard's
sound device in BIOS setup, whichever is applicable, before beginning
installation, as a possible thwart to the Gnome must have everything paradigm, 
if
blocking Gnome entirely is unacceptable.


That might be useful advice, but the sound card is not readily 
removable, its built into this asus motherboard. An Asus PRIME Z370-A II.


As a side note to installation: as soon as a fresh installation seems suitably
complete, but before adding any additional software, create a compressed /
filesystem partition backup image to facilitate any need for a consequent 
do-over.

gene heskett composed on 2024-06-05 17:08 (UTC-0400):


So this is the umptieth time I've asked how to fix it, and got recipes
for re-installing the basic system as an answer. Mike gave me instructs
to run a couple commands, once normally, once while it was hung but the
2nd comnnand I fed to wc -l and got almost 300k lines. Difficult to do
in real time because the command itself is subject to the lockout lag.


Answering a help request like this one is a toughie. It's commonly necessary to
reproduce both hardware configuration and software configuration in order to try
to address the problem. That can be quite complicated, and time consumptive. 
Here
it seems we may have a shortage from both helper and helpee, not necessarily a
fault of either, but a puzzle with missing pieces, in addition to some pieces 
that
don't belong to the puzzle (history tomes; not being concise). Could it also be
that we have too many cooks in the kitchen here too?


Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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Re: about 10th new install of bookworm!

2024-06-05 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2024-06-05 11:21 (UTC-0400):

> I always get re-install instructions.  Frustrating.

Should you choose to accept any fresh installation suggestion by doing another,
consider removing the sound card from its slot, or disabling the motherboard's
sound device in BIOS setup, whichever is applicable, before beginning
installation, as a possible thwart to the Gnome must have everything paradigm, 
if
blocking Gnome entirely is unacceptable.

As a side note to installation: as soon as a fresh installation seems suitably
complete, but before adding any additional software, create a compressed /
filesystem partition backup image to facilitate any need for a consequent 
do-over.

gene heskett composed on 2024-06-05 17:08 (UTC-0400):

> So this is the umptieth time I've asked how to fix it, and got recipes
> for re-installing the basic system as an answer. Mike gave me instructs
> to run a couple commands, once normally, once while it was hung but the
> 2nd comnnand I fed to wc -l and got almost 300k lines. Difficult to do
> in real time because the command itself is subject to the lockout lag.

Answering a help request like this one is a toughie. It's commonly necessary to
reproduce both hardware configuration and software configuration in order to try
to address the problem. That can be quite complicated, and time consumptive. 
Here
it seems we may have a shortage from both helper and helpee, not necessarily a
fault of either, but a puzzle with missing pieces, in addition to some pieces 
that
don't belong to the puzzle (history tomes; not being concise). Could it also be
that we have too many cooks in the kitchen here too?
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata